Michael Moore is great :)
 

I saw the Michael Moore bashing thread. So here is some food for thought about Bush :). Lets say Bush has to go to Saudi Arabia and have a nice stay over. Where do you think he stays? The Bin Laden palace :O. Isn't that odd. George Bush stays at the Bin Laden palace. Why? I don't know, wouldn't you like to know? Isn't that kind of ironic? Two families, one's the leader of a country, the others trying to destroy that country.. Odd.

After September 11th, the FAA made a list of items that you can't bring on planes. Nail clippers, knifes, pens, pencils, anything pointed at all. But you know what you can bring on a plane? A butane lighter, and a pack of matches. Now why is that? Because tobacco companies lobby bush and said "If you take Lighters and matches off that list, you're gonna hurt our business." So now you can bring a bottle of butane on a plane if you want, start a little fire when no ones looking. You would think that would have changed after a guy brought plastic explosives on a plane after September 11th.

There's 200 million people of voting age in USA... 154 Million DID NOT VOTE for Bush! We should feel good about that! Of the 200 Million voting age americans, 154 MILLION DID NOT VOTE for bush. There was so much scandle in the elections, there isn't enough space to type it.

This one is really nice. The FBI wanted to do a weapons check on the 15 Hijackers from September 11th. Basically, that's checking when the person bought the weapons, how many they have, just to see if anything else is going on. Bush says "NO NO! That's invading their privacy." 100% True. I mean, of coarse, they have to have their PRIVACY right? They're just hijackers.. That's all.

And if everyone hates Michael Moore. Why is his book the best selling book of 2002? Why did Bowling for Columbine recieve an adademy award? Do you all honestly think that Bush is a good guy? Oh well, there's lots I COULD type. But you'll probably just flame this anyways. TOODLES! *waves*

I'd just like to point out that every commercial plane in America has smoke detectors and several fire extinguishers. Anyone trying to light a fire with a butane lighter is going to have a rude awakening and free room and board in prison.

Michael Moore sure does have a massive fanbase, doesn't he?

I don't like the guy, and I don't like his work. He's manipulative - something I discovered after reading the Truth About Bowling.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

As the essay puts it, he shouldn't have gotten the academy award for "best documentary" when he uses fiction and deception to make his case. Documentaries are non-fictional movies, after all - but if you even just give the essay a slight glance, you'll see that Michael Moore made stuff up to make his points more sexy to the audience.

To coin your subject title, Micheal Moore is great... at warping the truth. :)

You know, it really isn't that simple. I don't know what else I can say. How many instances have their been of people lighting fires on planes? Most likely very few compared to instances of attempted hijackings using easily concealed, sharp objects.

Of voting age doesn't necessarily mean they voted at all...there is actually a lot of concern about voter apathy, considering half of the eligible population didn't even vote in the 2000 election. Unfortunately, I wasn't eligible in the 2000 election, but if I had been, I wouldn't have voted for either candidate. The hijackers took advantage of the rights and freedoms guaranteed to Americans. Security may be tighter, but our right to privacy should never be taken away. Unfortunately, that is exactly what the Patriot Act is doing. I don't hate Michael Moore. I liked Bowling for Columbine and I've read 3 of his books (Downsize This, Stupid White Men, and Dude Where's My Country). I think he occasionally has a tendency to become one-sided and I don't like some of the stunts he pulls in order to make things more appealing, but I don't hate what he's doing. He's just out there doing what he feels is right.

Just remember that everyone has their opinions, whether they like Bush or not, whether they like Michael Moore or not, you have every right to disagree. You don't have to assume that you're going to get flamed as long as you keep an open mind about what others have to say. :)

That's so irrelevant though. 'Did not vote for' and 'Voted against' are completely different things. Only about half the eligible population is registered to vote, and only about half of them actually vote. I don't quite know the numbers though.

What I find amusing is that whole '100% true' at the end there. Seriously, unless you provide a source, there's no reason for us to believe such an odd, unbelievable twist of events.

What the hell does popularity have to do with anything? Hell, Bush has a lot of support too. In fact, last time I checked, Michael Moore wasn't the president, Bush is. Popularity means nothing, only that he has outspoken and convincing views.

Personally, I don't like Moore too much. He seems very shifty when he brings up his many 'facts'. But Bowling for Columbine was different, because it had a different idea. It's idea was that Fear is what's screwing over the American population, and so far, his main point seems pretty solid (disregarding a lot of his little points were pretty shifty).

That was pretty derogatory...

One of my favorite Moore quotes, talking Lou Dobbs about his book "Stupid White Men"

DOBBS: Salon.com just took you to task on this book, pointing out glaring inaccuracies, which -- what in the world...
MOORE: Some of these, I think they found some guy named Dan was named Dave, and there was another thing. But you know, look, this is a book of political humor. So, I mean, I don't respond to that sort of stuff, you know.
DOBBS: Glaring inaccuracies?
MOORE: No, I don't. Why should I? How can there be inaccuracy in comedy? You know.
DOBBS: That does give one license. I think you may have given all of us a loophole.

(emphasis mine)


actually, if you dont like that site Trev gave because its run by some "right-wing gun nut" then try this site with many articles(not only on moore, but on oreily, limbaug, and everyone else): http://www.spinsanity.org/topics/#MichaelMoore

oh and for all you moore demonizers: http://brain-terminal.com/video/mich...ore/index.html

no, when it comes to politics michal moore has his head up his ass
he needs to stick to documentaries

not because of his opinions but of his tactless methods

You're half right. Michael Moore is a political moron. But he doesn't do documentaries. A documentary is factual, not set up beforehand, and I must mention again, based entirely in provable fact. Michael Moore doesn't deal with facts, but rather, slanderous literature and fanciful movies about how much he hates conservatives and wants to blame all the world's problems on them. Viper Daimao made a good point with that website, there are a whole lot more sites that prove all those points again and again.

bowling for columbine was pretty balanced, and it was factual too
he slammed the american media, and proved that conservatives were not to blame
did u see it?

i think it counts as a documentary, and is the only thing he has ever produced that is worth the time it takes to read/watch

He is biased like everyone else
 

Yeah, I followed Micheal Moore for a while, and he was pretty funny, and made you think. I think he was trying to say what a lot of left wing people say and don't mean "Question authority and think for yourself." Really, the guy was an alarmist. He made issues look bigger than they really were, and he does bend the truth. Whatever he does, just remember, that micheal moore has an agenda, just like everyone else. Just like bush, just like gore, just like all the republicrats. You should never just beleive something because it goes against public thinking. Remember to balance your views before you take a side. I agree with Moore on a lot of stuff, just for different reasons than he points out.

You could say that Micheal Moore's work has taught me to question what people like Micheal Moore say.