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Mannix 10-14-2006 02:39 AM

Ouch for the Republicans again
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6049274.stm

Summary: Another high ranking republican caught in a corruption scandal.

I'm seriously waiting for a story to break about Cheney bathing in a puppy/kitten blood mixture to attain immortality.

How much more bad news can they take and still survive? This is just getting rediculous.

POS Industries 10-14-2006 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mannix
I'm seriously waiting for a story to break about Cheney bathing in a puppy/kitten blood mixture to attain immortality.

Well, we already know about that one, but that blood's gotta go somewhere or it'll just go to waste.

But really, the Abramoff thing is just one big scandal involving many, many republicans at the same time. Not to say that a fair number of democrats wouldn't have willingly participated in such an exercise as well, but the GOP just always seems so much more happy to do business.

Mannix 10-14-2006 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by POS Industries
Well, we already know about that one, but that blood's gotta go somewhere or it'll just go to waste.

Right, but if the story broke it'd be official.


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Originally Posted by POS Industries
But really, the Abramoff thing is just one big scandal involving many, many republicans at the same time. Not to say that a fair number of democrats wouldn't have willingly participated in such an exercise as well, but the GOP just always seems so much more happy to do business.

Yeah, but the list of greedy fucks involved just keeps getting longer and longer, especially at a really 'bad time' for the Republicans. I mean, how much more rot can be exposed and people still vote for them? I'm not ragging on them per se, but this is just getting to be nuts. The only kind of scandal they have left to be implicated in is that somebody turns out to be a Satan worshipper posing as an evangelical to get a constitutional amendment to allow human sacrifices under the facade of banning gay marriage.


Edit for spelling.

Sky Warrior Bob 10-14-2006 06:41 AM

It is seeming like thing are moving torwards a perfect storm for Republicans. Especically considering the fact that Tempting Faith is about to come out on Oct 16th.

Written by the former No 2 man in the office of faith based initiatives, apparently the book depicts the White House as using people of faith, while at the same time not doing all that much for them. Talking the talk, but not walking the walk.

According to what I've seen on Countdown, this might not bode well for the either the White House nor the Republican party in general. As this conversation that Keith had with Howard Fineman, from Thursday's show, suggests:

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OLBERMANN: All right, besides the Foley scandal, what‘s on deck, obviously, the David Kuo book and the charges made in “Tempting Faith” that Mr. Rove was using the Christian right. With a quote like you know, “Just get me a ‘f-ing” faith-based thing” attributed to Karl Rove, is that going to resonate either within the political end of the religious right movement or within Washington, generally?

FINEMAN: Well, I think among Evangelical Bible-believing Christian political activists, the kind of people I was talking to the other week at this Washington meeting of the Focus on the Family political group, that‘s Dr. James Dobson‘s group. A lot of those people at the grassroots who came here, and that I talked to, were very, very skeptical about this White House, now. Yes, they were happy about the Supreme Court nominations of Alito and Roberts, but beyond that they felt they‘d been led along by the nose, that they hadn‘t been given all of the programs that they had wanted, that they were beginning to feel like they had been used. That was before this book come out.

And I can tell you that a lot of those people that I talked to, the other week, are going look at this new book and say, “aha, this is what we thought all along.” They‘re not all going to suddenly start voting Democrat, Keith, but they may stay home, they may not volunteer as much, they might not drive the vans, they might not work the phone, because now they look at what looks, in this book, to be a very, very cynical Republican White House.
SWB

Ryanderman 10-14-2006 09:44 AM

I find it interesting how these Republican scandals keep breaking, but there's really not much mentioned about the Harry Reid scandal that's happening at the moment. If it had been a Republican who got caught in the "land deal" scandal, you know the Democrats would have been all over him.

It's all politics, on both sides, and it disgusts me.

steve11 10-14-2006 10:08 AM

The party in power always get's hit the hardest, the under dog never does. It's American politics nothing more to it.

Althane 10-14-2006 11:36 AM

I'd find it more depressing that both sides are equally corrupt in this case. I mean, it's freakin' D.C, there isn't a single thing that goes on that isn't known by like, 15 other people.

I say we revamp the entire political process, and screw congress. We get some people who actually know what they're doing in charge, instead of people who are making decisions based on how much political power it gets them.

ZERO. 10-14-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Althane
I'd find it more depressing that both sides are equally corrupt in this case. I mean, it's freakin' D.C, there isn't a single thing that goes on that isn't known by like, 15 other people.

I say we revamp the entire political process, and screw congress. We get some people who actually know what they're doing in charge, instead of people who are making decisions based on how much political power it gets them.

You mean that the people that are capable of the scheming and the black mail that keeps most of them in congress should be made to keep the fuck away from congress?

POS Industries 10-14-2006 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanderman
I find it interesting how these Republican scandals keep breaking, but there's really not much mentioned about the Harry Reid scandal that's happening at the moment. If it had been a Republican who got caught in the "land deal" scandal, you know the Democrats would have been all over him.

It's all politics, on both sides, and it disgusts me.

On top of that, Reid's part of the Abramoff scandal, too. Dude likes money. That about sums it up.

Sky Warrior Bob 10-14-2006 12:17 PM

Just to put the Reid angle in context...

From my understanding, Reid made a profit from land he sold. The question of whether it was an undue profit hasn't been answered specifically yet. To answer that, you'd have to look into the price he paid for it, how property values have risen. And even if it is unforward, it has nothing to do with Abramoff, as far as I can tell.

And there's always the chance that nothing might come of the investigation into Reid.

Also, I do believe there is a Republican who also has the name Reid, mentioned in the course of the Abramoff investigation, so that might be part of the confusion. I don't know if he was a Congressman or Senator, but he might have been somebody lower tier than that.

SWB


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