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Kurosen 11-18-2006 12:11 AM

#771: "The mouth-breathers are staring at us again."
 
So close, and yet so far.

animemangavg 11-18-2006 12:18 AM

Oh boy i can't wait to see what wm does when they see her again XP
"This is fascinating, shut up" XD

DragonTrainer 11-18-2006 12:19 AM

Running out of evil? You can never run out of evil! ("~_~)

Neways, great comic, Brian! ^_^

Number 81 11-18-2006 12:21 AM

Ah Sarda, always quick and to the point.
"This is fascinating. Shut up."

NoDot 11-18-2006 12:23 AM

Running out of evil? Are we sure this is BM!?

Flarecobra 11-18-2006 12:34 AM

Wow..You know, she might actually have been a bit suspisius, but willing to go along with it. And I can imagine that her expression was one of shock, since if it was just BM who disappeared, she woudn't be surprised.

And I see even the Wizard Who Did It can run out of pashence. Or however you spell it.

And Brian, the Imperial units under me wishes an alliance. Both Space Marine and Imperial Guard.

superluser 11-18-2006 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NoDot
Running out of evil? Are we sure this is BM!?

Hey, you try being evil against an unspecified target.

mammothtank 11-18-2006 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flarecobra
suspisius

<.< Suspicious?
Quote:

pashence
Patience.

Hmm... and while I'm in "grammar/spelling nazi" mode, there's a typo in the comic title too (breaters -> breathers). *awaits his imminent death sentence* Hey, fix'd

Anywho... He probably would've sounded more sincere had he not been so ridiculously generic. Thief and Sarda both have very good points though.

superluser 11-18-2006 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mammothtank
Patience.

Patients?

Sarda is probably running out of those, too.

bass_virus 11-18-2006 01:05 AM

You know i'm begining to think Sarda watches them and teleports them back to him when it's the worst time for them.

Summoner 11-18-2006 02:01 AM

Ah. Sarda, always popping up at the worst possible time...Good ol' Sagacious Sarda...

Siege 11-18-2006 02:36 AM

Not quite off-topic
 
Poof, I fucking hate Poof. Been in three parties with that retard, and it was three parties too many.
If anyone plays on Fairy server then he or she (but probably he) knows what I'm talking about. :mad:

Shame we won't get to see the orb of water in action.

Good luck with the Tau, I got 1 exact draw against the 'new and improved' Eldar, and 1 minor loss against a 2 Carnifex 'nid swarm. Both games were 1000 points. Toughness 7, regenerating, 5 wound, 2+ armor, line of sight blocking goddamn fexes. One hammerhead is simply not enough to deal with that kind of threat. The non-WYSIWYGed leaping warriors took me by surprise too. 'I got another turn before GREATER GOOD PROTECT ME! OH ETHERIALS, THE PAIN!' :gonk:

Next time that 'nid player is getting introduced to my Gundam Heavyarms Custom Broadside conversions. Both those fexes will be good and dead by turn 4, at the latest. :stressed:

Furioku 11-18-2006 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurosen
So close, and yet so far.

How many times have I heard Brian say that now...?

Either way, w00t Sarda is back, wonder how this is gnona turn out.

Bisected8 11-18-2006 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mammothtank
<.< Suspicious?Patience.

Hmm... and while I'm in "grammar/spelling nazi" mode

No linguistics for you?

Cukeman 11-18-2006 08:12 AM

So if BM's conscience refers the others as "mouth-breathers", does BM not breath through his mouth? Or at all?

superluser 11-18-2006 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cukeman
So if BM's conscience refers the others as "mouth-breathers", does BM not breath through his mouth? Or at all?

Most people usually breathe through their noses, keeping their mouths shut.

Imagine a guy who runs around with his mouth constantly open. Mouth breather.

Meister 11-18-2006 08:35 AM

Someone gave something away just now. :D

Sky Warrior Bob 11-18-2006 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Meister
Someone gave something away just now. :D

Is it waffles? Oh please let it be waffles.

And since its on-topic, could anyone provide a link to the original inner dialogue BM had. What does the non-Hideously evil inner BM go by? I've got a working theory of what might be going on, but I'd like to refresh my memory of what's gone on in the past.

SWB

Setzer Gabbiani 11-18-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Siege
Poof, I fucking hate Poof. Been in three parties with that retard, and it was three parties too many.
If anyone plays on Fairy server then he or she (but probably he) knows what I'm talking about. :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw60JKnwy2g

8-Bit Idiot 11-18-2006 10:41 AM

So is the Airsub out of commission now, or did Sarda "poofed" it back outside Circle Cave too?

Nuklear Waste 11-18-2006 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Siege
Poof, I fucking hate Poof. Been in three parties with that retard, and it was three parties too many.
If anyone plays on Fairy server then he or she (but probably he) knows what I'm talking about. :mad:

Is Poof that annoying person that was in that puppetmaster thread on the BG forums?

Anyway, back to the topic: The fact that Sarda poofed them back to the Circle Cave right before they were about to save Onrac with the Orb of Water only supports the theory that Sarda is the big baddy. Speaking of Elemental Orbs, does anyone else think that the Water Orb has some history with the Order of White Mages since water is often associated with healing. Or the School of Black Magery, since it's so destructive...

SykoJul 11-18-2006 01:39 PM

Eh. How would Sarda know? Or care. Maybe he just got bored. Of waiting. XD

I don't think the elemental orbs have history with anything, because history would include plot, and there is no plot, merely ridiculously hilarious insanity loosly strung together by duct tape and words. But mostly duct-tape...

I liked the tittle though. I assume the end would be "No good deed goes unpunished." Wicked.

Kirbyslaboratory 11-18-2006 02:29 PM

I absolutely admire how Sarda does whatever the hell he wants. The universe was in trouble the second it was formed thanks to him. He IS the wizard who did it.

It's definetly an admirable trait.

SimianPirate 11-18-2006 03:10 PM

I actually enjoyed the title of the comic today "No Good Deed..."

This seems to be taken from the name of a song in Wicked, "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished", sung by Idina Mezel (the Wicked Witch). Very nice tie-in, if that's the case :)

Nuklear Waste 11-18-2006 03:19 PM

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I don't think the elemental orbs have history with anything
Well, didn't the Earth Orb have a past with the Elves and the Dwarves? And didn't the Order of Red Mages seek out the Fire Orb? Unless you were being sarcastic, which is hard to tell over the internet. :p

Mazyrian 11-18-2006 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky Warrior Bob
And since its on-topic, could anyone provide a link to the original inner dialogue BM had. What does the non-Hideously evil inner BM go by? I've got a working theory of what might be going on, but I'd like to refresh my memory of what's gone on in the past.

SWB

It starts here

Bisected8 11-18-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SimianPirate
I actually enjoyed the title of the comic today "No Good Deed..."

This seems to be taken from the name of a song in Wicked, "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished", sung by Idina Mezel (the Wicked Witch). Very nice tie-in, if that's the case :)

Or maybe its just the idiom "No good deed goes unpunished" from which that song most likely takes its name?

hanzo66 11-18-2006 11:10 PM

Maybe now he's going to send them after the Air/Wind Orb and possibly Tiamut.

DarkLadyNyara 11-18-2006 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NoDot
Running out of evil? Are we sure this is BM!?

Who else but BM could run out of evil?

And leave it to Sarda to find a new way to screw BM over. :D

Quote:

This seems to be taken from the name of a song in Wicked, "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished", sung by Idina Mezel (the Wicked Witch). Very nice tie-in, if that's the case
I'm pretty sure the saying is older than that.

Siege 11-19-2006 01:55 AM

Is Poof that annoying person that was in that puppetmaster thread on the BG forums?

The very same.

'No good deed goes unpunished' is probably so old Sarda invented it, but didn't invent patenting first. :shifty:

Nayno 11-19-2006 03:14 AM

PREDICTION: Sarda will not ask the light warriors to retrieve the air orb, and will instead release them from their slavery! However, the light warriors will end up finding the air orb anyway after a series of whacky shenanigans.

Awake 11-19-2006 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nuklear Waste
Is Poof that annoying person that was in that puppetmaster thread on the BG forums?

Anyway, back to the topic: The fact that Sarda poofed them back to the Circle Cave right before they were about to save Onrac with the Orb of Water only supports the theory that Sarda is the big baddy.

No, I think Sarda is Red Mage. As Red Mage, he already experienced all of this so he knew billions of years ago what was going to happen. Also, I suspect that BM is like Shiva and White Mage is like that other character (Krishna?) that begins life. WM began the universe and BM is about to end it. Red Mage went back to the past in a desperate attempt to become God and save all of existence from him but he screwed up and got there a few seconds to late. After about twelve billions years of contemplation Sarda/Red Mage now understands that this was all meant to be and is just part of the natural cycle of the universe. BM will destroy all of existence and thus sew the seeds of the universe's rebirth. Of course he will still torture BM every chance he gets along the way but that is only to be expected.

And Onion Kid is clearly going to be Chaos anyways.

Bisected8 11-19-2006 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Awake
No, I think Sarda is Red Mage. As Red Mage, he already experienced all of this so he knew billions of years ago what was going to happen. Also, I suspect that BM is like Shiva and White Mage is like that other character (Krishna?) that begins life. WM began the universe and BM is about to end it. Red Mage went back to the past in a desperate attempt to become God and save all of existence from him but he screwed up and got there a few seconds to late. After about twelve billions years of contemplation Sarda/Red Mage now understands that this was all meant to be and is just part of the natural cycle of the universe. BM will destroy all of existence and thus sew the seeds of the universe's rebirth. Of course he will still torture BM every chance he gets along the way but that is only to be expected.

And Onion Kid is clearly going to be Chaos anyways.

From what I know of Hindu mythology;

The creator (WM)= Brahman
The preserver (RM)= Vishnu (Krishna was one of several representations of him on Earth)
The destroyer (BM)= Shiva

Sky Warrior Bob 11-19-2006 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
Who else but BM could run out of evil?

Who said BM is running out of evil? Its his hidieously evil side that seems to be having problems, and note the line BM's 'good' side said...

The distinction blurs a little more every day...

My read of that, is that the evil in BM personality is becoming consolidated in BM's 'good' side, which represents the voice of reason in BM's head. So instead of doing evil, just because it feels good, the sort of evil he's moving toward, is the kind of evil that serves a purpose.

That purpose might just be the destruction of everything, but its still a purpose.

SWB

Sarda 11-19-2006 05:09 PM

Thoe little fudgemuffins have screwed up every mission I've given them so far... I'm not sure if I'll let them get the air orb.

And how did they not die going for the water orb? I tried so hard to place Ur there at just the right time to kill them. I almost got rid of the annoying stuck up one. Or one of them, at least.

Edwardius 11-19-2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarda
Thoe little fudgemuffins have screwed up every mission I've given them so far... I'm not sure if I'll let them get the air orb.

And how did they not die going for the water orb? I tried so hard to place Ur there at just the right time to kill them. I almost got rid of the annoying stuck up one. Or one of them, at least.

You should give some gnomes a call. They should whip up a machine of ultimate doom in no time.

Bisected8 11-20-2006 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarda
Thoe little fudgemuffins have screwed up every mission I've given them so far... I'm not sure if I'll let them get the air orb.

And how did they not die going for the water orb? I tried so hard to place Ur there at just the right time to kill them. I almost got rid of the annoying stuck up one. Or one of them, at least.

Why not send them after the air orb and send an army of robots to destroy them?

Mazyrian 11-20-2006 11:10 AM

Why not wait for the Warmech to do it?

bass_virus 11-20-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarda
Thoe little fudgemuffins have screwed up every mission I've given them so far... I'm not sure if I'll let them get the air orb.

And how did they not die going for the water orb? I tried so hard to place Ur there at just the right time to kill them. I almost got rid of the annoying stuck up one. Or one of them, at least.

Send them back in time, monsters were harder back then.

On another note, i got FF III friday, and holy crap there is an airsub in it. I thought Brain pulled the airsub out of his butt, but it looks like he had help.

Iyeru 11-20-2006 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bass_virus
Send them back in time, monsters were harder back then.

On another note, i got FF III friday, and holy crap there is an airsub in it. I thought Brain pulled the airsub out of his butt, but it looks like he had help.

That may be true, but go evern FARTHER back... and they're dumb as a doorknob. However, not as dumb as the USA's president.

Tieger 11-20-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Flarecobra
And Brian, the Imperial units under me wishes an alliance. Both Space Marine and Imperial Guard.

xeno-loving heretic traitors then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siege
Good luck with the Tau, I got 1 exact draw against the 'new and improved' Eldar,

the new eldar do seem a bit extreme. played a couple of games against someone trying them out, and even with his lack of experience with them (he's hardly played eldar even before the changes) my spacewolves were barely scraping a victory. admittedly the 3rd game was our own fault, since we decided to try drop podding our entire 1500 point force :P was actually quite amusing, especially his surprise at a) 3 deathwind pods opening up as he ran forwards to claim the undefended objectives, and b) 2 squads of terminators with assault cannons shredding both his squads of harlequins.

think i'll go back to my tau next week though.


well, thats my offtopic talking done for today :P
nice comic, loving that even when BM trys to be nice (even for his own reasons) he's still screwed over :P

Khael! 11-21-2006 11:21 AM

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From what I know of Hindu mythology;

The creator (WM)= Brahman
The preserver (RM)= Vishnu (Krishna was one of several representations of him on Earth)
The destroyer (BM)= Shiva
Pretty sure it's Brahma. Brahman was something else... universal life force or something? And doesn't that mean Rm was Ghandi at one point?

Bisected8 11-21-2006 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Khael Almighty

Pretty sure it's Brahma. Brahman was something else... universal life force or something? And doesn't that mean Rm was Ghandi at one point?

My mistake;

Brahma = creator god
Brahman = The god (considered inconceivable to a human being)
Bramin = A member of the Hindu priest/teacher class

How does that mean RM was Ghandi? That would make him subordonate ot everyone else.

Khael! 11-21-2006 02:48 PM

According to the religion, Vishnu had several avatars on earth all throughout history, each one working to maintain balance between good and evil. Krishna's the only one I can recall.

Some people attributed Ghandi as being an avatar, mostly after his death. A few think Martin Luther King jr. could have been one. A lot of people argue against these notions too. I don't think anyone really knows since they're not in any holy books.

Either way, we're likening an 8-bit guy with a pimp hat to Vishnu. The way I see it, we're either creepily right, or going to get slapped when the Deity decides stupidity and intellect need balancing too.


...and what kind of insult is fudgemuffins!? Fudge brownies are inconceivably good. I don't see how muffins of the stuff could be possibly used with a negative connotation.

There is a finite amount of evil. It's because there's a finite amount of horror people can tolerate. Save your Oblivion game, and go on a temporary town killing spree. I guarantee you, it takes a great deal more creativity to make people suffer than you'd think. After a while, killing them just isn't enough. My solution is to cheat for every spell in the game (I mean it when I say every. hit ` and type psb) and reanimate their corpses as a mindless obedient army of my own. Plus reality-bending mods. It is beautiful mayhem, but there always comes a point where you want to revert back to the innocent save.

Bisected8 11-22-2006 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Khael Almighty
...and what kind of insult is fudgemuffins!? Fudge brownies are inconceivably good. I don't see how muffins of the stuff could be possibly used with a negative connotation.

Maybe fudge muffins don't work?

Khael! 11-23-2006 02:32 PM

Nope, they do. I even found a recipe! I love Google, it's just as great as magipedia.

You guys are great too. Questioning me about desserts and happily ignoring my detailed blabbing about in-game killing sprees... It's like a home away from home, and I don't even have to leave my house!


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