#777: "I was taught a similar but subtly different legend."
 

I'm quite fond of the Elvish religion being nothing more than a bunch of stories and sayings about how awesome Elves are compared to everyone else. Including their gods.

Why does it seem like Fighter and RM have switched roles in the second half of the comic?

It's official. Thief has to die! -_-

And yeah, ever since Fighter class-changed, I've seen Fighter getting smarter & smarter. Pretty soon, he'll be the brains of the operation. >_>

For the record, here in Frostbite Falls, Minnesota, I mean Rochester, NY, it was 70 degrees on Thursday. Then it dipped to 43 degrees at night.

Is it me, or does it look like Theif and Fighter are in an oldwest kind of stand off?

Oh well.

They'll soon meet the big bad Timat, then Theif will die.


Horrificly.

Yes, I think Thief really needs a kick in the ass.

His Elves are cool beliefs can be crushed...painfully.

Hell, Red Mage, of all people, pointed out a critical flaw in Thief's theories.

The Elves are still on par, is not BEHIND, the human race when it comes to tech.

That and there's alot more humans then Elves...

The way black mage described lefein sort of makes me think there isn't one incomprehensible language, but everyone speaks a different one.

What if fighter is one of these lefeinish people and his incomprehensible language is stupidity? He really is quite smart as he comes from such an intelligent culture with edumacation and the like, but he is cursed to be forever tounge tied to convey his meaning in the dumbest ways possible? Kind of reminds me of how the speech center of my brain reacted to my lady friend.

But the elves are elves. That's all there is to it.

Incidentally, Kurosen, how much of a payoff did you get from the good ol' slot machine that is the intarweb?

I agree with the person who said Fighter is getting smarter and smarter.

"Eldritch Linguavex spells"... what???

Also, who uses the "drool/rule" line anymore? That is such an old and rarely used line.

Yes, but for elves it is practically fresh off the shelf, at least by their standards.

Ahhh, fighter having another moment of smartness. Is there anything any better when he outsmarts the entire party in one panel?

Red Mage makes a point. That is all.

Here in Hellmouth, OH, the temperature started off at around 60 degrees this morning before suddenly realizing "Oh snap! It's December!" at which point it instantly dropped to 30 degrees and began snowing.

Here in Bloomington Illinois it was 63 on thurday night ans dropped to 12 degrees by friday morning. Quit belly achin.

Perhaps fighter'll be able ot translate, like he did with the overcomplion?

Except no one will believe him.

Well in this case it wasn't so much Fighter being smart than it was him repeating what someone else has already said.

The thing about Fighter is, while he's not the shiniest sword in the armoury, his education seems to have been excellent. From what I can recall off the top of my head he was taught combat, mechanics, philosophy and at least one second language.

Yeah he's kind of like an old attic. Mostly a bunch of junk was thrown in it, but every once in a while you find some impressive stuff up there that was left behind.

Bloomington, IL? Man, that's a fake, made-up town name if I ever heard one.

And also, make sure to note the part where I was more amazed that the temperature dropped 30 degrees between early morning and noon, not during the night as one might expect. It's Ohio in December. It's actually supposed to be way colder than this.

Fighter's brain had another spark of intelligence... Doesn't the Knight class gain a sudden burst in Int and Wis anyway?

Considering he can now use white maigc, yes I belive so.

Oh yeah, elves are totally behind humans when it comes to technology.

Eldritch is actually an English word meaning strange or unworldly
Lingua is Latin for language
Vex is an English verb meaning to annoy

Haha reading all these stories on hellish temperatures makes me laugh. I live on the California coast and sure it gets pretty cold sometimes but all I need is two sweaters (which is pretty rare) and it is all good. It hasn't even rained during the day for the past two weeks (as I remember). Also, what is this "snow" that you people keep on babbling about? :D

EDIT: Thanks for clearing that up, Number 81. :)

Remember, Thief's elven superiority complex does get the better of him.

And don't complain about cold weather! I live in freakin' CANADA! It can get as cold as -30c!

Let's look at it this way. Elves have a cannon that shoots a giant, that never actually kills anything except for the giant itself (it didn't even destroy the ship the LWs were on). It should also be noted that it was only completed recently, and relies solely on the mass of the giant to deal damage.

What do humans have?
Airships/Death-Traps
Stevebots
Sword-chucks
Lightbulbs
Lighters
Customizable Chocobos

All of which took a tenth of the time that the Elves had.

That is what a winter should be.

Well, it's from when Thief was a kid, so it's probably a while ago his dad said it.

Wait isn't -30c the same as -30f? Or is that at -40? I forget.

So will Thief die to Tiamat, or will it be Fighter? place your bets.

It's celcius. The U.S is the only place in the world with wacky rules such as Degrees F and Inches, etc.

.:. iyeru42 .:.

Kelvin is the best system. Why use a system which would require a computer to have 1 as its first binary digit for a given temperature value and over complicate maths in base 2?

Because, we're just that great.

.:. iyeru42 .:.

Actually, yes, -40° celsius and -40° fahrenheit are the same temperature, namely, 233.15 kelvin. Personally, I agree with the sentiment that kelvin rules, celsius drools. Maybe if celsius was less like a dissertation on hyperdimensional physics and more like a temperature scale, it wouldn't have swallowed the metric system into the singularity of its madness.

And, of course, fahrenheit is innately infallible because America pwns logic.

Infallible? Not bad for a scale based on calculations, literally, from someone's armpit.

Indeed. The armpit of justice.

Back on topic, I've just noticed that I don't think we've seen the Dark Warriors in quite a while, or at least since their [cough] class change. Was that just a one-off joke, or can playing dress-up really grant one the power of an enlightened warrior? And have the Other Warriors managed to procure their own rat tail as of yet? They have had a few hundred episodes in which to cross the Endless Sea of Eternal Nightmare and reach Rat Tail Island, after all.

Well, don't forget that Red Mage and Gighter had a hand with the Customizable Chocobos and the Sword-chucks and they are both fractactical geniuses. And King Steve is the world's greatest criminal mastermind.

Methinks you need a bit more sleep, Awake.:)

Meh, a slip of the finger. No big there, and "fractactical" is a reference to the comic itself, so it is perfectly reasonable. Furthermore, I have to applaude Awake for probably being the first person in a very long while to use the correct spelling of "genius" here on the forums.

Though "genious" is itself in reference to the comic.

Yeah, you know who needs more sleep? Me. Now knock of that racket you damn whippersnappers with your devil rap music and your internets....

Fighter more and more reminds of me of Bertie Wooster, who P. G. Wodehouse described as having "the ruins of a first-rate education".
(Any of you that haven't read the Jeeves books should DIE! [or preferably, get around to reading them])
Main difference: Bertie's schemes rarely involved the same kind of violent action Fighter's do, though the level of hare-brained-ness was probably just as high. And Fighter doesn't have anyone intelligent to bail him out when things go wrong.
Fighter's degree was in overcomplicated language, not obscure language per se, so it may be hit and miss whether he's able to cope with Lefeinish.

Maybe Fighter's like a Discworld troll and he can only think when his head is cold?

The idea of Hugh Laurie playing Fighter in some sort of, say, live-action movie or something, does have a certain appeal, too.

GHKT!!

Live action 8-bit.

My brain just tried to vomit itself out my ear.
And, subsequently, has managed to avoid answering how it would go about doing that.

It sounds like a good idea to me....

Sorry, live-action DBZ popped into my head at the same time, and live-action Goku launched a live-action-Kamehameha at live-action Black Mage, who lauched a live-action-Hadoken. My brain attempted to dodge out of the way, and vomited itself out of my ear. (Or attempted too, I'm not sure which)
The result spilled onto the forums.

If some one wanted to film live action 8-bit in their back-yard, I'd love to see it.

An 8-bit Anime would be much better.

Also i've never really thought to think about this, but how old is Thief? I mean he could very well be over a hundred considering how slowly elves age.

How old are they all? BM only went through puberty a year before the strip started, or less when you consider how long it was from the start to the point where it was mentioned.

I always figured that BM was 18-19, Fighter being 21 or so, and RM being like 25. Thief i never really thought about, i mean i kinda assumed he was like Fighter's age, but since he's an elf he's probably older than the other three combined.

Fighter's constant reminiscing about Fighter's Camp '86 would lead one to believe that, if we're assuming that 8BT time correlates to our own, Fighter would be somewhere between 25 and 30 years old. And seeing as how BM and Fighter both failed their respective final exams on the same day, that probably means that they're about the same age. See here: OMG SECRET ORIGINS!!!@

Judging by RM's hair color, either he's relatively old or the process of acquiring the ultimate understanding of the innermost workings of the universe has driven him gradually insane.

As for Thief, I remember seeing a comic featuring an elven baby once who was only 35, so Thief himself is probably a good deal older.

Well if we assume that baby was about 12 months, then Elf years=35 human years. Thief appears, relatively, the same age as Fighter and BM who both took their exams on the same day so they may be the same age (unless swordsmanship and black magic have different courses, which they probably do).

RMs hair colour means little as it is possible for someone's hair to turn white at a young age (its apparently a hormonal thing) so he may be the same age as the others.

Biologically speaking if BM has no problems then at the oldest he would have gone through puberty is at about 19. There are medical conditions which suspend puberty indefinitely though (treatable by hormonal treatments, and magic).

So by this logic the LW are about 20 while Thief is about 700 years old.

Then again RPG characters do have a habit of starting young....

I've always figured that since BM is obviously a genius when it comes to black magic that he would have been bumped up a few grades making it reasonable for him to be younger that Fighter but have his finals on the same day.

Fighter would have to be reasonably young to have been kicked out near graduation somewhat recently.

It's true genetics could acount for RM's white hair, hell i'm only 18 and my hair is beginning to grey. Of course he could have also just wrote white under the hair color part of his character sheet. But i've always thought he was at least 4 or 5 years older than Fighter since he is so knowllegable.

Theif's age i suppose is up in the air.