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tyr888 02-04-2004 02:21 AM

bahamut
 
in the new red mage, someone asked what bahamut was. most people here
seem quite smart, but i'll post it anyway, should anyone wonder.

Quote:

Bahamut originates from Muslim Traditions, and his form is very different then depicted in modern society. The great dragon is actually a giant fish. It floats in a vast sea while a bull rides on its back. On top of the bull lies a ruby mountain that contains 6 hells, seven heavens and the earth. Being such a monstrous beast, it is said that not even humans can look upon him.
i found that here, (and did not fix the two typos) should anyone wonder.

Mashirosen 02-04-2004 02:59 AM

Movin' to 8-Bit.

tyr888 02-04-2004 03:09 AM

i'm sorry, wasn't sure where to put it, and thought this one was only for the comic related material. thanks

Rayinne 02-04-2004 06:17 AM

The Hebrew monster Behemoth was the basis for the Muslim Bahamut, even though a Behemoth is just a desert-wandering big monster thing. Bahamut, as has been said, is given much more power and scope.

Dark Shooter 02-04-2004 02:28 PM

Actually, the Behemoth was the adversary of the great sea-beast Leviathan, according to Hebrew lore. So, if a Hebrew monster was transformed into the Muslim Bahamut, it would proabably have been Leviathan instead.

Although, now that I look at it, the name Bahamut looks something like a corruption of Behemoth. Not having studied either language, I really can't say more than that.

Although, I would like to know how Bahamut became a great dragon. I remember looking in an old D&D art book that had a lot of the art from the handbooks and capsules from the '80s. There was an excerpt that mentioned a King of the Dragons named Bahamut. It described him as being an ancient Platnium Dragon who had four Gold Dragon attendants, in a palace beyond the east wind (or something to that effect).

tyr888 02-04-2004 02:48 PM

well, if the definition i've found is on target, i'm curious as to how bahamut is usually associated with good, most blatenly in the ogre battle series. it would seem he should be more of a neutral party. but even in final fantasy, he's always with the 'good guys'. and some people might argue that certain other entities that are associated with evil are also helping the 'good guys', i'd like to point out that hades, for one, is not evil, just the keeper of the dead.

Atma 02-04-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disclaimer
Bahamut is the property of Square Enix

WTF

Since when did Square own Bahamut? That's messed up.

tyr888 02-04-2004 03:07 PM

i know, this kid must have thought they bought it or something, but you can't buy a mythological idea. but all in all, it was the best definition i've found.

Ralvuimago 02-04-2004 03:10 PM

Well, FF9 proved that Bahamut would do the bidding of whoever got to him first. In most games, it's your party, but in FF9 Queen Brahne got to him first and he leveled the whole town.

tyr888 02-04-2004 03:19 PM

in ffIX though, the summoned beasts were not good or evil, they just followed the will
of whomever called them. though i must say that i simply do NOT understand why a
creature so immensely powerful would listen to one human that it can EAT!
This is why i've always hated summons. ffVII was the only game that actually had
a use for them, and there it just took WAY too long. i did, however, enjoy that in XI,
there were shorter versions of the summon, even if it did less damage. from what i
hear, X had better summons, where you actually control the beast, but i'll never play
that one, because i refuse to play sucky games that cause me to jump off bridges.


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