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Flarecobra 03-12-2007 12:38 PM

Half-life 2. I was crossing the bridge via the gurders, and I'm doing pretty good, killing some combine and showing a headcrab how Newton discovered gravity, with the headcrab being the apple, and the water below being Newton, and killing birds while standing next to the infinate rocket crate. Then while crossing the next set of gurders, I sneeze, and next thing I know, red screen of death. Meaning I have to do it all over again.

Averross 03-12-2007 12:39 PM

Alt+F4 my friend, Alt+F4.

bluestarultor 03-12-2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Averross
I hate it when I'm playing StarCraft online and I ask the (Admittedly very noobish) question, "How do I mass?" Everytime, the answer is "Alt+F4." It's one of those things that I by respects probably should know, but don't because nobody ever gave me a serious answer. Kind of like how I didn't know what a limo was until I was almost 11 or how I still don't know what the hell Paper Mache is. God, I hate people.

Papier machee is a French term meaning "crushed paper." It's been degraded from that into English to mean something that's made out of glue and paper strips or even paper that's been reduced to mush in a blender and mixed with glue. Or the actual gunk.

Averross 03-12-2007 12:58 PM

So, it's basically paper strips stirred in a bowl of glue? I see now.

Okay, so how about massing on StarCraft?

Melfice 03-12-2007 01:00 PM

Rather, I believe the correct translation would be "chewed paper".
According to the Dutch Wikipedia article, that is.

But you know Wikipedia.

Anyways, it has taken me quite a while to find out how to group units in Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2, and assign them to a squad, so to speak.

bluestarultor 03-12-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Averross
So, it's basically paper strips stirred in a bowl of glue? I see now.

Okay, so how about massing on StarCraft?

I wish I knew. I don't have a copy. :sweatdrop

Edit: @Melfice: I guess that is a closer translation. My version says chewed-up paper. But then again, it could be argued either way, depending on how you want to translate chewing.

Loyal 03-12-2007 03:20 PM

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Actually, that supply lines mission in GTA: San Andreas isn't that hard. All you have to do is let go of the acceleration when you're at the desired hight, and slowly glide to the next target. You wont fall from the sky, and taking that friggin' biker slowly and from a distance is a good idea.
Pardon, but bullshit.

The RC Baron is a Damage Proof biplane fighter twitchier than the goddamn Stuntplane, and you have only precious yards of asphalt, concrete, and pedestrians (And traffic sometimes) to take off again if you hit the ground. If you touch an obstacle, you will spin and hit the ground. If you fail to kill a courier on the first strafing run, you will almost certainly take more damage than you can afford from counterfire before you can turn around for another flyby and/or the courier runs away.

In short, if you don't have a lot of prior flying experience, you're boned. If you do have flying experience, you're still in for a hell of a trip because it's a toy plane far too easy to gun down, and far too easy to lose control of. While you could glide over 'em and fire at a safe distance, it takes too much perfection to actually pull it off right. The only saving grace of the mission is that because it's a toy plane taking the hits, and not you, there's no risk of getting Wasted.

Ahem. For my own moments, not counting the obvious grief of the above:

-Accidentally saving over my San Andreas file when I was within two missions of beating it and had maxed out a great many skills.
-The complete inability to kill Puloski in San Andreas unless you manage to snag a good motorbike from a passerby motorist, get out of your useless buggy, get on the bike, and resume the chase before you fail the mission for letting him get away. You can't pull alongside him to shoot without hitting traffic, and you sure as hell can't outlast him in pure collision.
-Losing my N64 and all my games for it with no clue where they could have gone. I had some fucking great games for it, and the memories they carry I cherish and miss to this day.
-Custom Robo's (Gamecube) final boss. Do I really have to explain how stupidly hard this fucker was to beat?

Sir Pinkleton 03-12-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Loyal2NES
Pardon, but bullshit.

The RC Baron is a Damage Proof biplane fighter twitchier than the goddamn Stuntplane, and you have only precious yards of asphalt, concrete, and pedestrians (And traffic sometimes) to take off again if you hit the ground. If you touch an obstacle, you will spin and hit the ground. If you fail to kill a courier on the first strafing run, you will almost certainly take more damage than you can afford from counterfire before you can turn around for another flyby and/or the courier runs away.

In short, if you don't have a lot of prior flying experience, you're boned. If you do have flying experience, you're still in for a hell of a trip because it's a toy plane far too easy to gun down, and far too easy to lose control of. While you could glide over 'em and fire at a safe distance, it takes too much perfection to actually pull it off right. The only saving grace of the mission is that because it's a toy plane taking the hits, and not you, there's no risk of getting Wasted.

Perhaps it's just in the Xbox version, but the bi-plane never "twitched" for me. That in mind, it also wasn't difficult to avoid obstacles, so crashing didn't happen much. Also, the machine gun on the plane has a great range of fire, auto aims, and has a wide-spread fire range, meaning you don't need to aim practiacly at all (I once flew over a van, I was right above it, but I was somehow able to shoot practically straight down). Again, this might just be the Xbox, or hell, even my specific version, but I don't see why, then, that you can't just slowly fly above car-top level out of their range but still in yours, pumping bullets into them like BB pellets into a tin can.

I still hate that mission though, mind you.

Professor Smarmiarty 03-13-2007 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Friendly Black Mage
Perhaps it's just in the Xbox version, but the bi-plane never "twitched" for me. That in mind, it also wasn't difficult to avoid obstacles, so crashing didn't happen much. Also, the machine gun on the plane has a great range of fire, auto aims, and has a wide-spread fire range, meaning you don't need to aim practiacly at all (I once flew over a van, I was right above it, but I was somehow able to shoot practically straight down). Again, this might just be the Xbox, or hell, even my specific version, but I don't see why, then, that you can't just slowly fly above car-top level out of their range but still in yours, pumping bullets into them like BB pellets into a tin can.

I still hate that mission though, mind you.

Pah! Actual flying of planes wasn't as hard as that hell-spawned thing. Maybe it was your x-box because the sheer thought of trying to pull off the manouevre you suggest when combined with the handling of that plane boggles my mind. The meerest wind gust over the key buttons nearly sent my plane flying out of control! The machine gun range was also pretty poor. I managed to complete it eventually by multiple trys and mostly just landed in front of trucks and gunning them up. My flatmate had a mad zen at doing this mission however. Wasn't that sharp at any of the other missions though. Odd.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 03-13-2007 11:11 AM

Supply lines is only hard if you don't know how to do it.

Best way:

Dive at the first van from the start and start shooting. The first is easy enough as it's practically right in front of you. Once it explodes pull up to the right and circle around behind the next one that heads south down the street past the RC shop.

The trick now is to land! Yes, that's right, land on the ground and wheel up close to the van. Commence firing. Van explodes as the driver gets out. Then simply wheel to the left and then right and get airborne and go after the one to the west. Once you find it do the same trick.

Then fly off after the bike on the other side of town, as it's closer. This is the hard part due to it going up and down the hills all the time and depending on how long you take to get there it could be anywhere within its area. The only difference now though is that you have to get REALLY close behind it as you drive along the road as unlike the vans (who stop and get out to shoot you) the bike instead pulls away and tries to flee. So get in close, open fire and it starts to drive off, with the passenger shooting at you. Hit the accelerater to keep up with it, but don't get airborne or your aim gets thrown off, and if you hit anything it's all over.

You'll likely be shot a few times but it only takes about 2-3 seconds of firing to take it down. Then it's on to the last van. Repeat the same trick and head home with a surprising amount of fuel left in the tank.

Just remember to stay out of the blast radius as each vehichle goes off. If you're lucky some of them might get stuck behind other cars or traffic lights, which helps.


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