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Kurosen 03-19-2007 11:07 PM

#822: "I don't know who they are, but they look innocent."
 
Fighter's full of surprises.

Tendronai 03-19-2007 11:16 PM

I knew it was all an act! No one could be that stupid.

Syrinth 03-19-2007 11:22 PM

So I guess that this officially establishes that RM wears a mask then.

Excellent...

greed 03-19-2007 11:29 PM

So one comic joke, or is this the beginning of the end?

So was Thief too shocked to shutup Fighter or is he unwilling to try ninjaing him in the face?

So many questions and so much great.
And hey we answered the what's on RM's face dealie, cool.

Chaos Mage 03-19-2007 11:37 PM

That's it... Fighter is Chaos...

Kroze Gamegod 03-19-2007 11:45 PM

I think we are forgetting who we are talking about here...
ITS FIGHTER!

Half the time I don't think he has any clue what he is actually saying and the words that he manages to put together just end up sounding sensible and smart.

Next comic he's most likely gonna turn around and when asked where the hell did all that come from, he will make a comment about how funny RM's Mask is.

xravi 03-20-2007 12:05 AM

I laughed so hard. Fighter is so damn cool.

PyrosNine 03-20-2007 12:55 AM

Actually, I think Fighter's been acting different ever since he ran off into the background. The first thing he did after he came back from "forgetting about the air orb" was make the mean comment "Is he going to find one, or..." which implies a lack of faith in RM, that he has never shown before.

Either forgetting about the Air orb has made him smarter, or someone swapped places with him in an attempt to undermine our Heroes.

Siege 03-20-2007 01:10 AM

I don't know if Fighter has ever expressed honest faith in RM's abilities, he seems to be the type to make little white lies to make people happy. Is Thief supposed to be standing on BM's head in the last panel? He's never done that before...

P.S.
Sorry to hear about the comic poisoning, get well soon Shas'O.

Rocketlex 03-20-2007 01:19 AM

Yeah, we've seen before how painfully aware Fighter is of his teammates' incompetence, not just RM.

Major Blood 03-20-2007 01:44 AM

I love how Thief is STANDING on BM in the last panel.

Bisected8 03-20-2007 03:20 AM

XD, that's the best strip I've seen for ages.

Could it all be an act by Fighter? He always seems quite complacent towards BMs atrocities....

WVI 03-20-2007 05:30 AM

I've always figured what RM wears over his mouth, but that's called a mask?

Huh. Also, Siege, get well from what? Death?

Kerensky287 03-20-2007 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WVI
Huh. Also, Siege, get well from what? Death?

Yeah. Of course. Comic-induced death was cured years ago, around the time of the Death of Superman. Remember?

Nuklear Waste 03-20-2007 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Siege
I don't know if Fighter has ever expressed honest faith in RM's abilities, he seems to be the type to make little white lies to make people happy. Is Thief supposed to be standing on BM's head in the last panel? He's never done that before...

P.S.
Sorry to hear about the comic poisoning, get well soon Shas'O.

I was always under the impression that Fighter likes Red Mage the least. Anyway, this episode has made me mad at Fighter...

vden 03-20-2007 07:34 AM

Fighter's words are made of pure win.

death_trooper 03-20-2007 07:37 AM

Not just his words. Fighter is pure win.

Fifthfiend 03-20-2007 08:58 AM

I think Fighter's just so dumb that sometimes he forgets to be stupid.

bass_virus 03-20-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fifthfiend
I think Fighter's just so dumb that sometimes he forgets to be stupid.

Yeah you're probably right.
At this point I think that the Thief, BM, and Fighter are actively trying to show RM that NPC's can offer them nothing by talking with them.

Telepathic TestSubject#21 03-20-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kroze Gamegod
Next comic he's most likely gonna turn around and when asked where the hell did all that come from, he will make a comment about how funny RM's Mask is.

Yes but it will be an act. Fighter is the true guiding force, influencing the others for his own evil goals, so subtle, so powerful, so... no that just doesnt seem right.

Maybe its a stroke? maybe some of the scar tissue from all those stabs to the head has clogged up his brain... you know... more than usual.
Note: he is still naive enough to refer to the LWs as his 'friends'

Or maybe he truly is evil, and WM is his soulless concubine, and BB isnt really dead, and everything we've been lead to belive is a lie! LIES!! ALL LIES!!! :stressed:

bluestarultor 03-20-2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Telepathic TestSubject#21
Yes but it will be an act. Fighter is the true guiding force, influencing the others for his own evil goals, so subtle, so powerful, so... no that just doesnt seem right.

Maybe its a stroke? maybe some of the scar tissue from all those stabs to the head has clogged up his brain... you know... more than usual.
Note: he is still naive enough to refer to the LWs as his 'friends'

Or maybe he truly is evil, and WM is his soulless concubine, and BB isnt really dead, and everything we've been lead to belive is a lie! LIES!! ALL LIES!!! :stressed:

I think BB is pretty much gone. WM buried the second one of him, after all. Notice that none of the other heroes has actually died yet? (This includes BM, as his body was intact enough for him to be banished back into it.) I think it's because WM has yet to learn Life. If she'd known it, she could have used it on the second BB instead of burying him, or revived any number of the countless people who have died in her presence (case in point, when BM knocked down the tower right before they fled to get the Water Orb). For that matter, RM is the only one who carries items, and that's been limited to Potions so far. No Ethers, no Tents, no Phoenix Downs. If anybody actually dies, there's nothing anybody so far can do to help them.

Lord Setheris 03-20-2007 01:41 PM

The simple fact is that fighter is the most competent of all the light warriors.
Be he stupid or just a clever actor, fighter is STILL the most competent. Also, he is pure win.

Also... when is past-thief going to show up to steal the class change from present (formerly future)-thief?

GOD OF IRONY 03-20-2007 01:45 PM

and WM is the creator of the univarse couldnt she just will the univarse to do things? like breing BB back... oh wait that would not work he binds reality around him so much maybe she could not will him back? any way if she still has the Creator Power(tm) then couldnt she just fix things with her mind?

Syrinth 03-20-2007 01:46 PM

In regards to Thief:

I've really been hoping that would happen.

I mean REALLY hoping that would happen :D

Edit: The universe was only listening at the very beginning. Now that it's created it's stopped paying attention

Nuklear Waste 03-20-2007 02:27 PM

Future Thief will prevent Past Thief from stealing his Class Change, but Future Thief is also so good at stealing that even with the past altered, he still keeps his Class Change. Or it will be stolen, and the rest will lose their Class Change, too, leading to an arc of the Light Warriors in despair (and right after BM learns enough awesomeness to make up for wearing clown attire and the whole having to get hurt part). Or it will be part of a whole epilogue thing. Or you can use your imaginationg to pretend it happens post-ending. Or Nrik forgot about it. Or it was just a matter comedy/humour/humor over continuity. Or a wizard did it.

death_trooper 03-20-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuklear Waste
Or a wizard did it.

No "or" about it.

Telepathic TestSubject#21 03-20-2007 06:21 PM

I WAS KIDDING!! I didnt mean to start up the BB thing again.

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Originally Posted by Nuklear Waste
Future Thief will prevent Past Thief from stealing his Class Change, but Future Thief is also so good at stealing that even with the past altered, he still keeps his Class Change. Or it will be stolen, and the rest will lose their Class Change, too, leading to an arc of the Light Warriors in despair (and right after BM learns enough awesomeness to make up for wearing clown attire and the whole having to get hurt part). Or it will be part of a whole epilogue thing. Or you can use your imaginationg to pretend it happens post-ending. Or Nrik forgot about it. Or it was just a matter comedy/humour/humor over continuity. Or a wizard did it.

thats a lot of 'or's... but I still feel you missed a few
-Or immediately after past-thief steals the upgrade from future-thief, future-thief steals an even better upgrade from even-further-into-the-future-thief
-Or he stole it from an alternate future (ie. different univarse/universe) in the first place so it will never come up.

...speaking of alternate realities the BB from another reality could easily get lost looking for a bathroom and wind up here... unless Brian has pulled a "Douglass Adams" on BB
(Douglass Adams got sick of the Hitchhikers Guide "trilogy" in the 5th book and destroyed the earth and all the characters throughout all existence.)

Stabbity_Man 03-20-2007 10:35 PM

I'm afraid of what Fighter is capable of.

Lord Setheris 03-20-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stabbity_Man
I'm afraid of what Fighter is capable of.

Good.
Fighter is capable of amazing powers.

Death by Stabbing 03-21-2007 01:09 AM

Fighter...well he doesn't fuck up as much as Red Mage at least.

I wonder whom BM hates more now? RM or Fighter

Lord Setheris 03-21-2007 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Death by Stabbing
Fighter...well he doesn't fuck up as much as Red Mage at least.

I wonder whom BM hates more now? RM or Fighter


How can you ask such things? Fighter has brought more misery into black mage's life than an be accurately, realistically, or even possibly understood, explained, or believed. There is no word to describe how much he hates fighter... not even the almighty "omniloathe" comes close. He feels meganger towards this hateriffic omniloathed abhorination. Thats the only way it can be described.

Then again, without fighter there would be so little love in the party... and we all know how black mage's favorite magical attack needs love.

bass_virus 03-21-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Setheris
Also... when is past-thief going to show up to steal the class change from present (formerly future)-thief?

He isn't. Thief was lieing when he said that, his class change was activated by him throwing sand at BM.

bluestarultor 03-21-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Setheris
How can you ask such things? Fighter has brought more misery into black mage's life than an be accurately, realistically, or even possibly understood, explained, or believed. There is no word to describe how much he hates fighter... not even the almighty "omniloathe" comes close. He feels meganger towards this hateriffic omniloathed abhorination. Thats the only way it can be described.

Then again, without fighter there would be so little love in the party... and we all know how black mage's favorite magical attack needs love.

BM has his own love to work with. He's so stuck on WM that after she breaks down at the failure of the last marriage, he'll shed his own single tear of compassion for her, and his love will explode into the rest of the universe, thereby negating the effects of all his Hadokens, but leaving him pretty much empty. WM will then see his "sacrifice" of his own love for her and commence to rehabilitate him, whether he still loves her or not. Because the true power of love is unlocked only when said love is given.

Wow, that bordered on sappy. :sweatdrop

Iyeru 03-21-2007 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bluestarultor
BM has his own love to work with. He's so stuck on WM that after she breaks down at the failure of the last marriage, he'll shed his own single tear of compassion for her, and his love will explode into the rest of the universe, thereby negating the effects of all his Hadokens, but leaving him pretty much empty. WM will then see his "sacrifice" of his own love for her and commence to rehabilitate him, whether he still loves her or not. Because the true power of love is unlocked only when said love is given.

Wow, that bordered on sappy. :sweatdrop

"bordered on sappy"? I disagree on that one there, because only the power of love can triumph in times of darkness. Also, since when can BM shed any tears? His face is covered up.

bluestarultor 03-21-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by iyeru42
"bordered on sappy"? I disagree on that one there, because only the power of love can triumph in times of darkness. Also, since when can BM shed any tears? His face is covered up.

He's made references to crying before, though it was over Thief forging new contracts. He also used " J_L " eyes once when he realized he opened is yap to Sarda. Besides, just because you face is covered doesn't mean the tears don't flow. If it were that easy, you could stop crying by squeezing you eyes shut. With the currently most expressive "face," BM could cry just as well as anyone else.

Edit: Or maybe a zoom-in shot to a tear on blackness would work.

Leveller 03-21-2007 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bluestarultor
He's made references to crying before, though it was over Thief forging new contracts. He also used " J_L " eyes once when he realized he opened is yap to Sarda. Besides, just because you face is covered doesn't mean the tears don't flow. If it were that easy, you could stop crying by squeezing you eyes shut. With the currently most expressive "face," BM could cry just as well as anyone else.

Edit: Or maybe a zoom-in shot to a tear on blackness would work.

:thief: You realise this means Fighter is the smartest one?
:bmage: I would cry but there arent enough tears.

BetaRuler 03-21-2007 08:18 PM

How bout BB's dead, now rotting back into the world and becoming one with it, the best you might ever see of him would be his spirit before it gets it's head bitten off by some other spirit.

And for Thief, he might suddenly loose his class change, but then gets it back by activating it the way it's spose to like how Red Mage and Fighter got theirs.

Though I still have issues on the 4th member of the group as well or if Black Mage is officially with them since he wasn't included in the groups upgrades, instead mr evil guy gave him powers, though this is all a bit unrelated.

In the present, I think Fighters still stupid as ever, reaching new peaks of stupidness without realising it, and like that other guy said he forgot he's stupid he's just that dumb :p Black Mage's comments were funny as well, as unhelpful to their efforts as they always are! So how will things move on now eh o,o?

Zuzak 03-27-2007 06:17 AM

1. Fighter's still as stupid as ever. He ruined RM's plan, and, assuming that he is evil, he just revealed himself. Between Garland, Bikke, and arguably BM, Vilbert, and Drizz'l, the strip REALLY doesn't need another evil idiot. Besides, Ranger, at least so far, has been clean, dispite his Crystal/Cresent lake that hinted that he was a psycopath.

2. My theroy for Theif is this: Theif stole the class change from a few seconds in the future. A few seconds later, it was stolen from him. So then, he stole it from himself in the time between when he stole it and it was stolen from him. Normally, this would probly cause the universe to explode, Sarda did something to fix it. Probly accidentally, because I doubt he would lift a finger to save the universe.

greed 03-27-2007 08:53 AM

Thread necromancy is generally frowned on Zuzak(this goes to your resurrection of the Water thread too), as is offtopic spec in raised threads. Just a heads up.

If you're gonna do spec it's a good idea to do it within the current thread or make a thread of your own if you think the topic merits discussion. The rules detail all this stuff I think so might be a good idea to read them again


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