Im holding off on buying a PS3 till either Summer 07, ot maybe even after my birthday in January, when I would have $800 (I dont get presents, I get cash) I think I am more likely to raid bargain bins for PS2, and maybe buy a GC and a DS first, though getting a GC for 2 games (Battalion Wars, Twin Snakes) feels kinda dumb.

Do you really need all those systems? I work my guts out just to maintain my lifestyle, let alone contemplate multiple system purchases. I've had to make a lot of tough choices regarding systems, and third-party support has been the deciding factor everytime (goddamn Squeenix for their switch to Sony from Nintendo), so I've missed out on a lot of games.
This is why I'm holding off on buying this particular gen of consoles, these little marketing strategies they seem to be playing..... If everyone goes everywhere with everything (hope you followed that), then I'll settle for the cheapest option, best graphics or not.

Bah, I'm rambling now, so I'll shut up.

Oh no, this is rambling: Back in ma day, we had 30 hour work days, and they didnt want to pay us so they cut the day down to 24 hours, and then some wippersnapper was on ma lawn...

Seriously, that is the point, I am buying a GC for 2 games, that seems stupid.

Oh, I bought the PSX when I saw the commercial for FF VII, you are not alone.

well, yeah, I guess... I still wish I could get a hold of a 20G PS3, I dont have wireless internet, and never will, wifi is worthless to me.

You might be able to get a hold of one in Australia. We generate electricity by rubbing two sticks together here still.

You want the gamecube for twin snakes and battalion wars? Well you might as well just get a wii since you can play those games on the wii and a sequel to battalion wars is coming out for the wii soon anyway. I agree though it's kind of silly to buy a system for two games... but you want to buy the ps3 for lair, which is one game and all the other games you want on it are multiplatform, so isn't that kind of silly too?

Also, you say you make 150 a month, so that's four months of work, but then you have to factor in tax which is going to be about ::thinks:: fifty bucks or so and then you have to buy a game since the system doesn't even come with one so that's another sixty bucks (less if you buy a used game, like thirty or fourty) and then you have to pay about five bucks more in tax on the game so your ps3 will really come out to about seven hundred give or take ten, fifteen bucks.

If you buy the premium x-box 360 you can spend about two hundred dollars less and get all the games you want except Lair. So realistically you're spending two hundred + dollars for the game Lair, which one of the big features is it uses the six axis, which you can get on the wiimote...

So the ps3 has about ::thinks:: what 4 big exclusive games? Lair, Heavenly Sword and ffXIII (which may not stay exclusive) and Metal Gear Solid 4 (which also may not stay exclusive?) Make it five if we add Resistance.

The Wii has about ... let's see... Metrioid Prime 3, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Dragon Quest Swords, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Pokemon Battle Revolution, Harvest Moon Heroes, A new Kirby game, Mario Party 8, No More Heroes, Animal Crossing, the new Paper Mario game that just came out and Resident Evil umbrella chronicals. (give or take three or four (even five or six, hell even seven or eight) games if you don't think some of those are important exclusives).

The 360 has Halo 3, Crackdown, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Gears of War,Rainbow Six vegas, Elder Scrolls IV, The force unleashed (I think that's what it's called), and a few more good exclusives that don't come to mind AND it has the games you want coming out for the ps3 Armored core 4, virtua fighter five etc. etc.

So you want to spend six hundred and fifty or more dollars on a system alone for four or five exclusives and of those exclusives there's a good chance one or even two of them won't stay exclusive. While you think it's stupid to buy a gamecube for two games (a system that costs a hundred and ten or so dollars after tax). I'm sorry but that doesn't make much sense. It's one thing to want the ps3 to say you want the ps3 to have it and nothing more, but to say you want it for Lair and games that will be on the 360 anyway it's all just kind of crazy. If the system was CHEAP that's a different story, people bought the n64 for a handful of great exclusive games, but the n64 didn't cost six hundred dollars.

I know I'm going on and on here and I'm not trying to give you a hard time or anything, but the point is what you're saying sounds like you just really like Sony and want to support them. I wouldn't let them pull the wool over your eyes any longer, the system (as of right now, things may change) is not worth the price no matter how you slice it. Maybe even a year from now it still won't be unless there is a ton of stuff going on I don't know about in the ps3's future. We're all gamers here on this forum, so from one gamer to another, don't let Sony rob you right now. If you want the ps3 fine, but really wait it out, because buying the system for a few exclusives while the other systems out there have much more to offer (and even a better or at the least similar gaming experience (with the wii) to a game like lair) isn't worth it.

Sorry if that was too ranty... hope I was able to make my point without coming off like a fanboy/rude/ignorant jerk.

There's this magical place called Ebay. I'm sure you could find one, and I'm even sure you might save a couple bucks versus finding one in a store/bin/whatever. Or, you might break even after shipping. Either is good!

And too much emphasis on exclusives. I know some can be great and all, but it comes down to what you can play on a given console. Like Spiderman 3: I'd count that as a tick for the PS3 regardless of whether or not it's multiplatform. It's a tick for all gamers! (Except PC...d'oh?). But as far as buying a 60GB PS3 is concerned, I personally wouldn't unless it's got maybe five or six nice titles, minus a few if I had an HDTV. :p I don't know about it's backwards compatibility either, but that's even more to do and a big plus (I know it was for my PS2 playing PS games, actually, 75% of my game playing on my PS2 were with PS games).

PS3 for Lair = boo. PS3 for Resistance, Lair, Spiderman 3, NFS:C, Saints Row, getting warmer.

Personally, I'm just going to be swapping my Wii for my friends PS3 in the summer.

I want, Resisitance, MGS4 (which Koima swears will not get ported, likely due to some Sixaxis stuff he needs for a boss or something) and a few other PS3 games that arent out yet. Very few 360 games interst me, and the ones that do also have PS3/PC ports. I also just plain dont like Nintendo, I really didnt play any 1st party games even on my 64. And I my paycked comes to $76 every 2 weeks. Also, I heard you will eventually be able to play the PS1 games that are on PSP on the PS3, as well as maybe, a UMD add on, which would rock, and, NIS and Team Ico are Sony exsclusive, and they are like my favourite devs.

I would feel for me specifically, that a PS3 is a justified purchase, as Wii and 360 hold littel interest for me, as I generally dont like Nintedno and MS's style of games, with the exception of a few. Also, GCs in my area are like $50 used, and the games I want are about $20 becasue they are used and on sale, the EB wants to clear out the entire stock of GC and XB stuff to make more room for the PS3 and Wii stuff.