What is a Defel, Chiss, and Dathomiri? Appearance would be nice as well...

(We only have 4 aliens... Any almost human races that I could switch to?)

Dathomiri, human, black, slightly shorter stature, fairer

Chiss, human, red sparkly eyes, blue skin

Defel, Shorter hairy thing that doesn't reflect light. Basically a moving shadow with fur that's about 5' tall.

Now by black, do you mean our black people (Who are really brown), or literally black?

And what was Darth Mauls race?

Dathomiri are humans from dathomir... I typed up a nice paragraph a few pages back on how they're slightly different from where they come from, and the RP restrictions/advantages they would have. Edit: I think Rhuhael was thinking of Lorrdians when he said black... they don't have a specific race. Dathomir was a penal colony, that's why there are people there at all.

Defel are... hard to describe. They have a bad PR as wraiths and assassins. And as for appearances... they don't. Under normal light all you can see is a shadow with red glowing eyes, have to look at them under infrared to see what they actually look like. Which is a furry animal thingie.

And Chiss are like humans only smarter and faster... and they have blue skin with red eyes. Their race is very proud, blah blah blah... basically, you'd have to be dishonored to be in the main areas of the galaxy where most of this stuff is probably going to be going down, as that only dishonored chiss leave the outer-rim. That doesn't mean that they're dishonorable though, just means that they've been expelled for something or another.


Edit: Zabrak = Darth Maul. I don't know much else about them, though.

I think Krylo explained them somewhere around the 5th page.

I think I'll go with Krylo's idea. But would bounty hunters be after her then?

Darth Maul was a Zabrak. I'm talking Brown not negro and here are some other races to consider

Hapan-Weaker, faster, more attractive humans
Lorrdian-Black, stronger, slower humans (high awareness)
Dathomiri-already said

Zabrak is pretty close too

There is a lot behind those that weren't explained, but for basic appearences, that works.

I belive this is a Dathomiri Nightsister (A dark side woman from Dathomir)

http://www.rpgplanet.com/starwars/ar.../swi/bio19.jpg

And to represent the chiss, everyone's favorite elite Grand Admiral, Thrawn.

http://digilander.libero.it/guerrest...exp/thrawn.gif

And last but not least, this is a Defel.

http://www.shatteredequinox.com/images/defel.jpg

EDIT: Note, my comments where on the basic description, not on krylo's recap of their social aspects.

Unless she somehow faked her own death, or it's been long enough and the jedi order has protecter her well enough that they aren't...

hehehe, the Defel looks like a gremlin

That's a women in the first picture?

And I'm switching to a Zabrak...

Also, who wanted to be on the Dark Jedi side? Just curious.

That is to woman what emperor palpatine is to man. In other words, warped by the dark side.


Also... I kinda wanted a dark side jedi... just because having maxed mind control and no morals would be useful to no end.

Yes, it's a woman, the Nightsisters were... not pretty to say the least. When they used their dark side powers, horrible black and blue splotches would appear under their skin, giving them a diseased and constantly bruised sort of look. Basically, Dathomir Force use effected appearance when it was used by the Nightsisters, because of how they tapped into the force I believe (Haven't read the book in a while).

I think I would rather go with Light Jedi on this one, altough playing a Dark Jedi could be fun too.

EDIT: krylo gives a much more concise answer that means the same thing...

Yikes. She's kinda scary, isn't she? O_o erm. My character isn't going to completely look exactly like that. Since she's kind of a rebelious one.

That's kinda like my guy. He's a jedi but he moved to sort of an "outpatient status" so he wouldn't have to deal with the stupid moral code. My favorite thing that I've come up with so far it throwing their own lightsaber at them. Now THAT'S entertaining!

Well, like FZ said... that's just the night sisters, and because of the way they tap into the force. The dark side warps and kills the body... doesn't anyone else remember yoda rambling on about how the dark side was killing the emperor even as it was the only thing sustaining his fragile life? Yah. So if you're a light sider, you wouldn't look much different than your average female.

You can't Mind Control a Jedi, unless they were a Padawan or something...

And Rhuhael, you have to listen to the moral code. If you want to break it, your not a Jedi of the Order anymore. The worst you can do is bend the rules a little.

I'm a defel so nobody can tell what I look like! :p

And that wasn't using mind control. It was using force control. by taking ahold of their lightsaber just as you parried or they drew it back you could behead them.

Well, yah... But it'd be way too much fun against any non-jedi NPCs. "I think you want to shoot your best friend and then yourself." Muahaha. Maxed choke would be fun too... kill people over tele-broadcasts...

gremlin*snicker*, sorry, couldn't help that one

Force Seeing level 3 and up can see a Defel. Also, since you are a Jedi, any Jedi with any level of Force Sense can tell that you are in the room.

Edit - They could just turn off the screen so they can't be choked krylo.

I know that they can tell I'm in the room and I'm not going to backstab them. A shadow in broad daylight is a bit out of place wouldn't you say?

That's not the point. The point is that cosmetically if I choose to be evil it doesn't matter b/c almost nobody can see me.

Shush you. You're ruining my evil fun. Besides, I know that... but it was still cool when Darth Vader did it to that admiral. Didn't actually kill him though, if memory serves.

If we didn't have all of our bios done, I would want to switch us to Dark Jedi's...

Man, choke is my favorite force power. Just the thought of saying, "You have failed me for the last time," is enough to convince me to go to the Dark Side. If you are thinking of making Dark Side characters, I'd join.

Also, it's sort of hard to manipulate machinery when your choking to death...

I personally prefer something like mass force-push. Its just cool because you can yell something like "I'M RICK JAMES, BITCH!" and then everyone flies away from you.

I'd join as a Dark Side character, too. Hee hee! :D Dark Side characters are awesome! The only thing I'd have to say against it is that then some of us would be going against each other, and there would probably be some god-modding.

Yeah that could be annoying. I wanted to be a jedi that left but wasn't 'evil' per-se just bereft of the code. I wanna be able to throw peoples thermal detonators at themselves dammit!!!

Maybe I should switch us to all be evil... Seems like at least half of us want it (Including myself), and then we could abuse our powers.

Also, with a new point system, might as well go with a new kind of hero...

And lastly, if we do switch to Dark Jedi, our appearances wouldn't be twisted... I don't want to be some grey, scaley thing.

Does that mean we'll have to totally re-do our people, or would we just need to change the bio so that we're evil? (dark side sounds fun. ^_^ )

Well... I don't think it would be a horrible idea if we went half Light and half Dark in the case of personal preference, but I think I would end up going Dark, because that MFer that is PC KoToR never worked on my PC, and I've been urging to be a dark jedi for a while now...

Then I can leave the order!??

YES!!!!! *Does a dance*

We have 6 Jedi's and 3 Non Jedi's... I'm thinking about randomly choosing one person to become a non Jedi... (This is not a choice, just to make all Jedi's start worrying)

*Is now sweating intensely*

What if we got more non-jedi's? Would this help your distposition?

No one new is going to sign up, so a Jedi would have to switch anyway...

And people might want to thank you for this Rhuhael, since your constant talk of abusing force powers annoyed me. Sure we're Dark Jedi's, but even without a Code your powers are only so good.

This is true. Everything has a limit. And if I kill them then I can't recharge with drain. A vexing problem.

I guess I shoulda been a little less enthusiastic about being evil. I just don't get the opportunity that often. It's fun occasionally.

Look if you're gonna alter anyone's game plan just take out my guy. He'll tack on some more guns and get his ass kicked. I don't want anyone else to have to give up their carefully calculated stuff b/c I'm a blabbermouth.

You keep thinking Drain is good for a fight... Again, it is worthless in battle because it is very slow. (Unless of course you can sit back, not get attacked, and not accidently start draining your allies). Plus, it only works on Jedis.

Edit - I think I need to clear some things up.

Heal - Not instant. The bigger the wound, the longer it takes.

Drain - Slow, very slow.

Mind Control - One target at a time, must do hand thing and say what you want them to do.

Anything else people may have a question about?

I'm now thinking more of a "once they're almost dead" thing with that. You know chop off an arm and a leg then fill yourself back up. But I can see why it's use is limited. I considered that carefully. But it is vexing.

You can just throw non-jedi's at me for a long time and watch me die.

Edit- Mind Control I was clear on.

No questions, although if you have concretly decided to change to Dark Side Jedi, I'll make some modifications to my character and resubmit him. I also assume that we would no longer have access to Light Side powers if we went fully Dark.

No, you can have light side powers. We're light side with dark powers, and it goes the other way around.

If you decide to switch around light and dark side I wanna either use my gunslinger template or make a dark jedi... On the basis that I don't think a bunch of dark jedi are going to treat a nervous hacker very well...

But you are the hacker. You could hack into anything moral free (I would assume when we are all the 'good' side you would have some morals about what you hack) and do as you please.

But if you do go Dark Jedi, then the Jedi are losing points for force. As it is now we are all the same.

Edit - So if we go Dark Jedi, I'm just going to lower the Jedi points and make sure everyone is some what different. And I would call Lighting and Mind Control mind you.

If we go Dark Side (And you don't modify force points...) This will be my new force list.

Force Powers: (30 points, all used)
Sense - 2
Control - 5
Speed - 5
Force Immunity - 5
Seeing - 4
Jump - 4
Choke - 5

Weapons: (Modified 14 points, 2 from skills, all used)
Lightsaber: 5 (Specialty in Dual Lightsaber fighting and Single Lightsaber

fighting)
Laser Deflect: 5
Space Vehicles: 4

Skills: (12-8=4 which become 2 bonus points for weapons)
Awareness: 2
Stealth: 2
Space Vehicles: 4

If he is Dark, he doesn't care about all those wussy other powers. He wants pure, damaging power, instantly, so while he doesn't have as many skills, the ones he has are all mostly maxed out.

Nah, he wouldn't have morals about what he hacks either way. Just fear of being caught. Ghyslain is... odd, and basically neutral. He doesn't see hacking as immoral, but rather as a game. He "just likes computers." But... I really don't see dark siders as treating him too well.

He's timid... easily goaded and manipulated... weak physically and emotionally. In a dark side party I see him as being lightninged a lot... like everytime he whines about having to do something... or complains about how much he hates fighting, etc.

I suppose I could just alter him a bit... toss in some fast talking and make him arrogant, though.

Do we need to worry about re-writing the bio? They don't need much of an excuse to be evil, since that's the more fun side.

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

Yes! Spaceballs is the best!

It seems like we are switching to the Dark Side. Though with a sudden change, I am going to force upon more unique characters (As is many less points for Force), and force the Jedi's to choose specific forces (Again I would call Mind Control and Force Control). Do you want that or stay as good? (As good we are done and ready, and even though I don't like how alike the force powers are, I'm to lazy to redo it without another reason)

Well if we go Evil, I call Force Choke right now!

Edit: Well, there are things to keep in mind. If we go evil, we have the advantages of "Wherever You Go, There They Are", "The Ominous Ring of Land" (Our main base needs to be a ring shaped space station...), "Evil will always triumph, because Good is dumb!", and "Dark Helmet's Corollary".

However, we have the disadvantages of "Thank You For Pressing The Self-Destruct Button", "Law of Mooks", and "The Best-Laid Schemes".

It's all in the tradeoff, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, you obviously haven't seen the list of Console RPG cliches, and if you haven't seen that, shame on you.

I think that simply how we use the powers will define that. and I think that we should stay good. I'm dubious either way. So w/e

If we're evil I call Force Control.

But most people have 5 points in atleast four things, so they obviously are going to use that.

I don't see why if we go evil we need to choose specific force powers. I say just transfer the system we have now and use that. Everyone will most likely change some things around since we would be evil now, and it'll all work itself out.

Actually, if we go evil, I imagine we would be less low level grunts, and more along the lines of evil generals or officers, so I think we would be more powerful if we went evil.

He's trying to prevent us from being evil. He wants us to stop all this evil talk.

I really don't want to re-do my force powers (I just finished doing them the first time less than 20 hours ago!)

But if we're calling certain powers, I want Mind Control.

Even if we have certain powers that we specialize in, can we put a few points into ones other people have? (I wanna use a little more than just Mind Control, especially things like Force Control.)


Evil or Good, I'm alright with both. I'm even more for either one if I don't have to re-do my character bio...

I'm with Celes. I don't really want to re-do this all especially seeing that my guy doesn't really change either way except wether or not he stops in at the jedi order occasionally to say hi.

Yeah, I think your character is partially why IHMN is so annoyed, because you are basically doing the total opposite of anything intelligent in the SW universe. If you were really so independant from the Academy, or were a bounty hunter with no morals, you would be a Dark Jedi, or at least exiled from the temple, and when the temple sent us on a mission, they would want nothing to do with you. In fact, the temple would most likely order bounty hunters to hunt you down...

Thing is, if we are all evil, I can assure you it will be Mind Control abusing everywhere. As well as Choking everyone that is not Mind Controled, and those who are not mind controled or choked will have large things thrown at them.

Also I can garuntee you I'd be using a disruptor cannon and several of the more insidious explosive devices.

You really don't want that.

I wouldn't let you do that. Which is my point. Sure we would be evil, but that doesn't mean you get to god mod. It just means instead of saving the world, you want to enslave it. With us being good, you're restricted by the Order so you can't abuse your powers outside of battle. As evil, you do as you please, which would lead to a mind control/lighting/choking/large objects thrown at you (Note that most Jedi's now can do at least two of those) all the time (In and out of battles)

He's right it would be complete chaos and if you start thinking about more insidious ways to not only use your own stuff but other peoples it gets scary. We really should stay good. My guy isn't bereft I've decided just nonchalant morally. Otherwise with heavy weaponry (shudder).

Alright, so after pages of argument, were staying light side, and nothing is really changing. Now, when is this going to start?

When I get around to writing the first post (Or you can Forever...) Basic idea of post is we are on a random planet trying to find out what some Dark Jedi are doing, they have big base, we need a hacker (Who knows some gun people...)

Well, the soonest I can have something up is tomarrow, but I'll work on it then. I have a huge project I need to finish tonight though.

It's a shame that this has been left so long, hopefully this revives it.

Wow, I forgot about it. Um, I'll try to get SOMETHING up tonight.

If it's not up by 1 am, I'll do it myself. Just tell me any points IHMN left out of his earlier post on what's going down.

See, this is why I let you guys in charge as well... Normally I am just lazy, but now I am lazy with a new computer and recieving games every now and then that I ordered...

I put something up.