Dean to leave the election?
 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Feb18.html

Personally I hope foot-in-mouth Dean gets out soon.

i saw an amusing politcal cartoon suggestiogn that if Gore want a democrat to win, he should endore Bush :)

As far as Dean leaving, I certainly couldn't say. Personally, I'd like him to stick around, not so much as a Presidential canidate, but as a cipher for funding. I mean, if I were to have my say in who'd be President, it'd certainly be him, but alas that looks like its not to be.

As for Gore's endorsement killing Dean, that's partially right Zeth, although I'd say its more a case of too much good news is a bad thing. Dean was the apple of the media's eye for far too long, and too much resentment from various groups built up. By getting the headlines for the most money, most political endorsements, he also attracted nearly 100% the mud-slinging from the other canidates.

In that respect, I think Clark actually did Dean a lot of good in the begining, as he took some of Dean's flack, but as Clark showed his relative ineptitude for politics, the attention shifted back to Dean.

As for my suggestion that Dean remain as a cipher for Democratic funds, for Wisconsin, the Dean website raised a heafty $1,400,000.00, when they're goal was only 700,000. Kerry's website's goal was $800,000 and I'm not sure they even made that by the time Wisconsin rolled around. Also, from all accounts that I've read on the Dean forums, as well as personal feelings, we'd feel more comfortable giving to Dean, then we would to Kerry. So Dean sticking in there, just to pull in cash for the Democrats, isn't a bad idea.

Sky Warrior Bob

routers says he's out:
http://www.reuters.com/locales/newsA...toryID=4386861

any yeah, Kerry hasn't got half the personality cult that Dean got. Dean might have been doomed in the main stream area form the get go, but he had a hard core group of supporters. i dont think Kerry's got that.

Dean to Supporters: 'You Got Punk'd'

I was unaware that Discussion forum had degraded itself to the slogging of tasteless humor, but I digress...

First of all, Dean did put his heart into winning, and he was a career politician in Vermont, which says something if know anything about the state. Plus, he didn't work he way into Governorship by kissing butts & making promises. Nope, he made it to Lt. Gov, and the actual Govenor just happened to up & die.

Dean was able to prove by his actions that he was a good leader, and so he was re-elected based on his popularity, rather that the straight & narrow political stepladder.

I'd go into this more, but I haven't got the time right now. However, I'd like to point out that there are some people that Dean is somewhat pointing his support more in the direction of Edwards, rather than Kerry. So pooh on that last craptacular statement.

Sky Warrior Bob

Well, you have to admit that Dean kinda left himself open for it, Sky Warrior. AAAAAUUGGHH!

But his so-called tasteless post did make a very good point. Frankly, though, the same could be said for all - or both, as it were - of the Democratic frontrunners right now. Speaking as a liberal and a Democrat, Bush is getting elected again in 2004; don't even worry about it. Don't get me wrong - I would LOVE it if one of the Democratic candidates was saying SOMEthing, but as it is their stances are so bland and predictable that they just haven't got a chance of standing out for an election. Basically, their campaigns have been based mostly on the "Take what Bush says, then say the opposite to make it look like you're mixing it up," strategy.

Here's my prediction for the 2004 elections:

Kerry will eliminate Edwards, then run against George Bush. The result - Bush 42%, Kerry %40, some generic third-party guy 5%, etc.

Bob, don't get your undies in a bunch. Takign ScrappleFace seriously is like takign an Onion article seriously.

like poor St Yopa: http://netizennews.com/cgi-bin/artic...leid=996756394

that incident with St Yopa and Jim Beam still cracks me up.

satire aside, i give Dean a lot of respect getting where he did how he did. While the pundits werent quite correct in saying that he wa changing the face of election campaigning anf fundraising, he did illustrate how far you can get with grass roots support.

Farwell, Dean. we shall miss you

addendum: i also wouldn't neccisarily say Dean "lost". if HE was running for HIMSELF, yeah, he lost. if he was running to promote ideals, then he did a decent job. A lot of Dean supports might just give up now, but i think a lot will just move on to support the next guy. He motivated people to be active for a goal... but that goal wasnt neccisarily "elect dean".

Zeth, I wasn't taken what was said seriously, I knew it was a joke, I just didn't think it was something worthy to bring into the discussion like this. Something more like a cheap Nelson "Ha-Ha" parting shot. I wasn't going to let that one go by without discounting it.

Sure it was a joke, but if nobody says anything to the contrary, things like that can be excepted as fact.

Sky Warrior Bob

well, for one, there wasnt a whole lot of discussing going on (Still isnt) and 2) anyone who took that as fact should been shot.