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Kurosen 05-04-2007 11:14 PM

#842: "Armor is made of metal."
 
So now we know a little more how drownball works and it makes even less sense than before.

chandarath 05-04-2007 11:22 PM

How did fighter survive? Sheer stupidity? Or Swordopolis again? Hmm...

BTW, Black mage and red mages exchange was great in this one hehe.

DragonTrainer 05-04-2007 11:23 PM

It doesn't not make no lack of sense in a nonsensical way at all! None at all! ^_^

So... where exactly does the ball come in again? >_>

Truce 05-04-2007 11:50 PM

Maybe it's the ball of water they're in?

willyolio 05-04-2007 11:57 PM

i wonder who's the winner in normal games of drownball.

Fifthfiend 05-05-2007 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by willyolio
i wonder who's the winner in normal games of drownball.

Except they're now at an olympic-size swimming pool.

Mystery abounds!

Chaos Mage 05-05-2007 01:03 AM

To answer how fighter didn't drown...

HE JUST WONT DIE!

bluestarultor 05-05-2007 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaos Mage
To answer how fighter didn't drown...

HE JUST WONT DIE!

So true! XD

Maybe they stopped the match after everyone else "won"? Or maybe they got bored waiting or time ran out. Swordopolis may not have even needed to get involved.


Edit: As a side note, I'm starting to wonder what color the Wind Air Orb actually is. Just looking at my avatar (which is based on the Bezel Cup lv. 4 effect), it could quite possibly be pink or purple. Normally, such things go red, yellow, green, blue, but the Earth Orb was already green, and popular culture usually reserves that for Wind these days with Earth being yellow. Though it used to be the other way around. Otherwise, sky blue wouldn't be out of the question, but it would have to be visibly paler than the Water Orb/borderline white.

Nested edit: Which means it could be yellow, magenta, cyan, white, or Brian could totally pull a fast one! [/nestededit]

I'm gonna lose sleep over this. XDDD


*edited*

Edwardius 05-05-2007 01:26 AM

Why do I smell the probability of Fighter's winning of the Drown ball leagues to be a kick in the gonads for all the less righteous light warriors?

Rocketlex 05-05-2007 01:34 AM

Fighter didn't drown because he was wearing armor. He was so heavy he sank to the bottom of the hovering waterball and fell out. I'm imagining that's an out-of-bounds DQ, but hey, winner by default.

Disc-Oh! 05-05-2007 03:21 AM

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It may be considered griefing
XD
That is incredibly fitting.

Riin Whitewind 05-05-2007 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Disc-Oh!
XD
That is incredibly fitting.

XD
I was thinking the same thing.

excelfanboy 05-05-2007 05:16 AM

It is all easily understandable and Fighter's armor makes a huge difference here. You see in RPGs if you fall into water you don't just drown right then in there, first oyu get tired, and then you gradually lose HP. Well Fighter is... well a Fighter (to the second degree) so he automatically starts out with A LOT of hp, so it takes longer for him to actually drown, now where his armor comes in? Simple, his armor gives him such an AC boost that it keeps most of the damage from the water drowning away so he actually has no chance of drowning (winning/losing)

omish 05-05-2007 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by excelfanboy
It is all easily understandable and Fighter's armor makes a huge difference here. You see in RPGs if you fall into water you don't just drown right then in there, first oyu get tired, and then you gradually lose HP. Well Fighter is... well a Fighter (to the second degree) so he automatically starts out with A LOT of hp, so it takes longer for him to actually drown, now where his armor comes in? Simple, his armor gives him such an AC boost that it keeps most of the damage from the water drowning away so he actually has no chance of drowning (winning/losing)

and in some RPG's the armour have HP regeneration as a perk, so more reason he won't drown.

Organism X 05-05-2007 07:54 AM

Nah, Fighter just doesn't understand how to die.

42PETUNIAS 05-05-2007 08:05 AM

Fighter was just so focused on winning that he forgot to drown. That's my bet.

Skit 05-05-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fifthfiend
Except they're now at an olympic-size swimming pool.

Mystery abounds!

That's just the training room.

42PETUNIAS 05-05-2007 12:40 PM

But... they'd other be dying during the training... or getting worse at drowning...

32bit-RedMage 05-05-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by excelfanboy
his armor gives him such an AC boost that it keeps most of the damage from the water drowning away so he actually has no chance of drowning (winning/losing)

There's also the water armor! water attacks or .......drowning just means
recovering HP , maybe fighter has a water armor ... i mean.. he used to have
ice armor .... Anything is possible right ? :fighter:

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Originally Posted by 42PETUNIAS
But... they'd other be dying during the training... or getting worse at drowning...

The anwser to that would be PHOENIX DOWN ! :D

mattblack04 05-05-2007 01:47 PM

Why doesn't Fighter die? One word: Plot Device

That and he's just too stupid to know how to die.

Bisected8 05-05-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chandarath
How did fighter survive? Sheer stupidity? Or Swordopolis again? Hmm...

BM wants Fighter dead, and the universe hates BM.

MDude1350 05-05-2007 10:10 PM

Maybe his armor is padded with phoenix down.

robertdigregorio 05-06-2007 02:00 AM

The game works like this:

If everyone dies, the first to die wins.
If someone lives, they win by default.
If two or more people live, they tie.
The ball refers to the arena they drown in, and fighter lived because he fell out of the ball (due to his amour).

You people make everything complicated -__-

Quickman X 05-06-2007 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by robertdigregorio
The ball refers to the arena they drown in, and fighter lived because he fell out of the ball (due to his amour).

I think you just made me do quite the double-take there. I instinctively read that in French, and WOW does it sound odd.
He fell out of the ball due to his love.
*snerk* Best typo ever.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 05-06-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 42PETUNIAS
But... they'd other be dying during the training... or getting worse at drowning...

Quote:

Something about Pheonix downs.
No, no, no, everyone knows that training rounds don't count. No one gains EXP, no time passes, damage doesn't carry back over into the normal course of events and if you lose you can just re-spawn and start over immediately.

This occurs with most, if not all, minigame events. Training for a major plot point counts as a minigame, therefore it follows these rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertdigregorio
You people make everything complicated -__-

Yeah, you guys DO make things far too complicated for yourselves.:rolleyes:

Khael! 05-06-2007 10:49 AM

The really stupid game of Maplestory (read: HORRIBLE EXP RATES = NO LEVELLING!) Had a thing where warriors recovered more health than other classes while at rest. Underwater, my warrior was actually recovering hp faster than the rate at which he was drowning. I could sit at the bottom of the ocean indefinitely.

If Drownball just requires drowning, I can't imagine it involving much as far as moving. So Fightar's survival could be entirely due to class features.

Bisected8 05-06-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Quickman X
I think you just made me do quite the double-take there. I instinctively read that in French, and WOW does it sound odd.
He fell out of the ball due to his love.
*snerk* Best typo ever.

I though the French word for love is "adore" (as in the phrase "J'adore" meaning "I love")?

42PETUNIAS 05-06-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bisected8
I though the French word for love is "adore" (as in the phrase "J'adore" meaning "I love")?

"Amour" would be the noun form of love, while "adorer" is the verb "to love."

Pisthetairos 05-06-2007 01:59 PM

Uh...hi.

I think being too stupid to drown is more of a black belt thing. So, I'll have to agree with the side that's saying he broke the glass sphere/gamefield. But, still, all other players had drowned already? Well, I suppose so, after all, they are professionals.

Flarecobra 05-06-2007 07:32 PM

Well, in FFX-2, while playing Blitzball, characters could be injured, and yet still be able to fight just as well. Might be the same reasoning.

Jothki 05-06-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bluestarultor
So true! XD

Maybe they stopped the match after everyone else "won"? Or maybe they got bored waiting or time ran out. Swordopolis may not have even needed to get involved.


Edit: As a side note, I'm starting to wonder what color the Wind Air Orb actually is. Just looking at my avatar (which is based on the Bezel Cup lv. 4 effect), it could quite possibly be pink or purple. Normally, such things go red, yellow, green, blue, but the Earth Orb was already green, and popular culture usually reserves that for Wind these days with Earth being yellow. Though it used to be the other way around. Otherwise, sky blue wouldn't be out of the question, but it would have to be visibly paler than the Water Orb/borderline white.

Nested edit: Which means it could be yellow, magenta, cyan, white, or Brian could totally pull a fast one! [/nestededit]

I'm gonna lose sleep over this. XDDD


*edited*

Not necessarily. As an example, Puzzle Quest had earth runes as green and air runes as yellow. I actually can't think of a case myself where Air was green and Earth yellow.

dantose 05-07-2007 02:15 AM

must have been chewing some oxyale

Molekh 05-07-2007 09:23 AM

I usually see
red=fire
blue=water
white=air/wind
brown/green=earth

Amake 05-08-2007 10:30 AM

I bet the air orb is white or transparent.

Meanwhile, I wonder what Fighter's rampant success in drownball will mean for the game. Will every player wear armor and drown faster/ score style points? He's going to revolutionize the whole game.

Khael! 05-08-2007 10:44 AM

Wouldn't it be really craptactic if it was invisible, like the very element it represents?

Metastophicleas 05-08-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jothki
Not necessarily. As an example, Puzzle Quest had earth runes as green and air runes as yellow. I actually can't think of a case myself where Air was green and Earth yellow.

Actually, if you check FFXI, you'll find that Wind is Green, while Water and Ice are both different shades of blue, and Earth is indeed Yellow.

Khael! 05-08-2007 11:07 AM

My mum refused to let me buy that MMO. Yet we own WoW now. I'm missing out on proper elemental education!!

Metastophicleas 05-08-2007 11:15 AM

Yes, you are missing out.


Edit: Am I the only one who noticed that the sprites for the interviewer are the same as the sprites for BLM?

Cyan60 05-08-2007 04:14 PM

In my opinion, Fighter shouldnt have worn armor becuase it protects his hitpoints but then again it does decrease his ability to dodge the water.

Who started Drownball?

Molekh 05-08-2007 04:24 PM

From the ancient art of Water-jutsu came two branches. one was convinced living was important to the sport, the other wasn't. hence, swimming and Drownball.

Ekthoth 05-08-2007 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by excelfanboy
It is all easily understandable and Fighter's armor makes a huge difference here. You see in RPGs if you fall into water you don't just drown right then in there, first oyu get tired, and then you gradually lose HP. Well Fighter is... well a Fighter (to the second degree) so he automatically starts out with A LOT of hp, so it takes longer for him to actually drown, now where his armor comes in? Simple, his armor gives him such an AC boost that it keeps most of the damage from the water drowning away so he actually has no chance of drowning (winning/losing)


Maybe its due to his experience with the armoir of invincibilty (and maybe the class change but who can say). You COULD say that when fighter got tired of lugging the armoir on his back and it collapsed upon him he was drowning beneath the wood. As you know this continued for several comics and as everyone knows the way to build resistance to something (or someone) is to constantly be bombarded by it(them). Fighter developed such a drowing resistance (illogical as it may sound) from being stuck under the armoir that he momentarily passed out from the awesomeness (his resistance was over 100%....it happens) and then came out the top due to cartoon physics. This often happens when the rules of reality are bent and or broken and logic has no place in the result. Because of his trial (dying underneath the armoir) he was subjected to a constant xp gain {another reason why he passed out} and lvled up furiously which is also another reason he probably didnt die).

Fighter's death resistance must be really high.

oh...and that is why he lost/won at drownball.....

Wow, that really got away from me....

Cyan60 05-09-2007 06:33 AM

There is no fighter.
 
See fighter has armor that protects him say, from a monster blow or a knife wound. Yet it doesnt make sense in anything but the RPG's to have armor protect you from drowning. 8 bit theater is a realistic rpg so fighters armor wouldnt help him from drowning but as others said before fighter has done some crazy stuff before.

SolidSamurai 05-11-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekthoth
Maybe its due to his experience with the armoir of invincibilty (and maybe the class change but who can say). You COULD say that when fighter got tired of lugging the armoir on his back and it collapsed upon him he was drowning beneath the wood. As you know this continued for several comics and as everyone knows the way to build resistance to something (or someone) is to constantly be bombarded by it(them). Fighter developed such a drowing resistance (illogical as it may sound) from being stuck under the armoir that he momentarily passed out from the awesomeness (his resistance was over 100%....it happens) and then came out the top due to cartoon physics. This often happens when the rules of reality are bent and or broken and logic has no place in the result. Because of his trial (dying underneath the armoir) he was subjected to a constant xp gain {another reason why he passed out} and lvled up furiously which is also another reason he probably didnt die).

Fighter's death resistance must be really high.

oh...and that is why he lost/won at drownball.....

Wow, that really got away from me....

I nominate this as the most perfectly logical conclusion. I'd vote for you, man. I'd be there for you.

The armor-breaking-a-ball theory barely makes any sense at all, let alone sense in any form of the word. Wouldn't the water drain?! The rest of you guys are completely out of it, I'm sorry to say.

Ekthoth 05-15-2007 07:17 PM

*wink *smile *teeth gleam

:D:D

Meister 05-16-2007 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekthoth
*wink *smile *teeth gleam

:D:D

*cough* That's a little spammy, isn't it?


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