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I hear this alot said about the fact that Venom was more Brock With Venom Suit, and honestly I'm glad they didn't try to do the whole "We" ing. It would have thrown everyone for a loop, since that would have meant tacking on another 20+ minutes to 'explain' in one pattern or another why Brock was speaking in "we".

Compare the Venom we all know and love to the Venom suited Spider Man in SP3. It would have been completely nonsensical.

Also, to be honest, most of the critique I've heard about the movie so far is "It isn't faithful to the original." Well, sorry, but I don't see how classics being filtered through the lense of a new continuity with a different medium (Transformers, anyone?) is so much of a crime.

I liked Arlan's version

Maybe just missing Wolf-Man
or at least the start of him
next movie maybe?

And when the hell are we getting Kraven or Chamelon or the Lizard...The Lizard is fucking hardcore...

And that's exactly why there should have been an entire movie centered around Venom, instead of cramming him into the last portion of the movie.

I agree in that I really liked Arlan's version of how things would go, however as BraveFencer pointed out I think New Goblin and Sandman should have been the sole focus (bad guy wise) in the first film with Harry having more time to play his games with Peter. This would have allowed for more time to have the symbiote introduced PROPERLY. At the end of the film Peter would have gotten rid of the symbiote because he sees that it's beginning to control his life, cut to the bell tower scene and fade away. Sure that would suck as an ending with a major cliffhanger but still, if done like Kill Bill vol 1 & 2 it wouldn't be so bad. Then next movie picks up with all the Eddie Brock lay out done and Venom gets to terrorize Spidey throughout the entire next movie with plenty of fight scenes between the two and explanation about how he used his "resources" at the Daily Bugle to find out where Peter lived, who his family was, and other things. Hell, before he got the symbiote suit he was basically the paparazzi so he would know how to stalk people without being seen. They could have also really gone into the whole thing about how Venom doesn't trigger his Spidey sense either. All in all I am a little disappointed but I figure it could have gone much worse (X-Men 3).

Remember, they didn't know at the time if they were doing an SM4 as there was only a three film contract on the actors, and they still don't know 100% certain whether they'll have a fourth film.

I have my susMICHAELBAYpicions about Transformers. They will not be lain to rest until I see it, and it is good.

How, exactly, were they supposed to introduce the black costume without having another villain? That the black costume was bonded to Spiderman for a time seems pretty damn important to me. And since the movie is called "Spiderman," I'd probably consider ranking Pete's character development a titch or two above someone whose sole purpose is to be a hideous monster who exists pretty much to be his worst nightmare. Personally, I'd like to have seen Venom get a movie focused on him, but there's no way that could have happened this time around without seriously butchering the characters of everyone involved, or having a long, non-nonsensical Star Wars style opening.

Really, if people want it to be faithful to the original so bad, they should remember that that would mean explaining the Secret Wars. Try to write the intro for THAT one.

I haven't actually seen this one yet, but this seems like a bit of a pointless complaint. I have one question though: Did they have Spiderman's spider sense fail to work on Venom?

BitVyper, I think what Fencer was referring to was that all the awesome black suit character development stuff would happen in this movie, and then it would be kickass Venom fighting in the following film.

What he said sounds more like he wanted THIS movie to be about Venom, but that's fine then. I've heard the complaint enough that I felt like saying it anyway.

If you read my last post in the older thread, I laid out a plan for how I thought this movie would flow (granted, i think I missed a couple of details I wanted in there, but eh). So, yeah, I wanted there to be a movie for the Black Suit/Symbiote introduction and development, Symbiote transfers to Eddie Brock in one of the final scenes (Kinda like how Harry stumbled onto his father's equipment in the end of Spiderman 2), and then have Spiderman 4 be all Venom, all the time. Because there's enough material and it's important enough to give both aspects of the Venom saga a lot of screentime.