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Fifthfiend 07-12-2007 12:02 PM

'What America Needs Is More Attacks on America'
 
So says Arkansas Republican Party State Chairman Dennis Milligan:

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“At the end of the day, I believe fully the president is doing the right thing, and I think all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on [Sept. 11, 2001 ], and the naysayers will come around very quickly to appreciate not only the commitment for President Bush, but the sacrifice that has been made by men and women to protect this country,” Milligan said.
It actually took a couple of minutes to sink in that this wasn't actually a parody, the guy actually said this.

This along with former Senator Rick Santorum intimating some kind of knowledge of incipient attacks that will reverse the GOP's political fortunes --

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And while it may not be a popular thing to talk about right now, and I know public sentiment is against it, they understand the importance of the national security of this country, and they also understand that between now and November, a lot of things are going to happen, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public’s going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, of some unfortunate events, that like we’re seeing unfold in the UK. But I think the American public’s going to have a very different view, and part of it will be the education that these three men will be imparting on the American public during the course of this campaign.
-- and an Associated Press story on the resurgent capabilities of Al-Qaeda which claims that this development will improve the President's political fortunes:

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The findings could bolster the president's hand at a moment when support on Capitol Hill for the war is eroding and the administration is struggling to defend its decision for a military buildup in Iraq. A progress report that the White House is releasing to Congress this week is expected to indicate scant progress on the political and military benchmarks set for Iraq.
I mean, what?

I guess it's not so much the ghoulishness that gets me so much as the up-is-downism - if there are new terror attacks on American soil, that underscores the massive failure of the Bush Administration's and Republican Party's policies, and is an indication that we should not support the people wasting hundreds of billions of our dollars and illegally supressing our constitutional rights in order to not, in fact, actually make us any safer from this thing from which all of this is supposed to be protecting us.

Anyway that all occured to me so I thought I would share.

I mean the ghoulishness is also there, it's just that it seems to be extremely inexplicable ghoulishness. Like if you had Democratic party leaders saying how awesome it would be to have another terrorist incident on President Bush's watch that would be astonishingly awful but it would at least be comprehensibly awful. This shit here, this is just weird.

Tendronai 07-12-2007 12:12 PM

I think the message that the GOP is apparently trying to send out is that there needs to be some terrorist attacks, so people can see the great steps forward that their policies have made.

Which is really something you don't want to be saying if you're trying to get elected, ever.

I'm not sure that even having a demonstration of how great their new policies are would rouse that much support. Katrina was the perfect opportunity for them to demonstrate their ability to respond to a national disaster, and we all know how well that turned out.

But this is seriously the wrong thing to say, no matter how far away the elections may be. It's akin to saying "I hope you get run over by a bus, so you can see how great the ambulances are."

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend
I mean the ghoulishness is also there, it's just that it seems to be extremely inexplicable ghoulishness. Like if you had Democratic party leaders saying how awesome it would be to have another terrorist incident on President Bush's watch that would be astonishingly awful but it would at least be comprehensibly awful. This shit here, this is just weird.

I don't think that they can actually explain any of this and maintain a political career. They're wishing bad things upon their people for the sake of showing off how great they can respond.

Satan's Onion 07-12-2007 12:25 PM

I...

I mean...

I'm...

I'll just say it. The fuck?

It reminds me a little bit, just a tiny little tiny bit, of when my grandfather would say that "what today's youth really needs is some time in the military--that'll set the little shits straight". Only it's not, because what my grandfather meant when he said that made a shred of sense, and he isn't advocating actually...

You know what? I refer you to my previous statement.

42PETUNIAS 07-12-2007 12:39 PM

At first I was thinking this was some kind of mistake to something like that. But then, I realized, more terrorist attacks is what some of these politicians actually want. They've based part of their career on defending America from terrorism, and now they don't like looking stupid when the terrorists aren't attacking.

Rygar 07-12-2007 01:06 PM

Even if it is what you actually want, it's still probably not the best idea to be saying it out loud. Especially to people.

Grünspan 07-12-2007 06:19 PM

I... I don´t know what to say.
Is he really willing to sacrifice the lives of innocents, just to bolster the president?

Professor Smarmiarty 07-12-2007 07:26 PM

All you have tor emember is nothing boosts GDP like a good war. And this one may be petering out. It needs a kickstart.
That's messed up though. Especially telling everyone it.

Solid Snake 07-12-2007 08:53 PM

Well those first two quotes just sound ridiculous, but the associated press story doesn't actually surprise me that much. Bush, who currently rules over an administration that seems to operate increasingly on the precepts of fear and using fear to terrorize the masses into a state of tepid agreement in policy issues, actually would probably benefit from an al-Qaeda resurgency. His positions on national security issues and executive authority might look more popular to the masses if there's a threat of terrorist attacks on our soil that's less imaginary and more in the realm of immediate probability.

Still, at this particular juncture I don't think even a terrorist attack would come close to resurrecting this lame duck regime. Even Bush's conservative base is now fleeing him.

Mannix 07-12-2007 09:10 PM

Most of the stories I've read about the resurgence all basically had the reaction of "yeah fuggin right, you're just trying to scare us again. You should have saved this stuff for closer to the election." They've harped on this stuff so hard for so long that nobody believes them anymore.

Are you threatening me Republican Party? Seriously, if I were an investigator the first thing I'd be looking at after a terrorist attack, from those comments, is if the Republicans had anything to do with it.

Bells 07-12-2007 09:14 PM

wait wait...

someone please correct me if im wrong...

Did he just said that if the USA gets attacked Again that will prove that everything they were doing so far to prevent terrorism will be proven to be right doing of the president?

Isnt that... like... saying that we should burn a woman alive to find out if she is a Witch, because whiches die with fire?!


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