And a neried can do it with a shake of her ass and a flick of her hair... that's why I said they'd make good spies... and thieves because they have very high dexterity and agility.

Still, you would need some training... Aidelyn doesn't seem like an ass shaking, hair flicking girl, and not much of a thief...

She has the natural ability, just not the knowledge.

Edit - WHen you are making all the races better, does that include vampires?

I should probably come in as a WoD Antediluvian and school everyone in being a badass vamp...

Nah, that's just lame.

Another thing - spies and thieves aren't supposed to be noticed... so if the booty-shaking and hair twirling goes on too long, it might work against her...

I said I wouldn't make any races better because then I'd have to make them all better, and then we'd end up with the original PC of said race being weak again.

True, but it would help her get into places, etc. Assassination is another thing she'd be good at.

You already gave me a retroactive boost if IHMN tried to daydream me I'd whoop his ass.

I don't disagree. I rememebr seeing a D&D item called "Lipstick of the Nereid" that allowed its user to deliver a fatal kiss (drowning death at some save or other)...

So... Celes is going to be an spy who uses her looks to get near her targets, then kills them and uses her thief like agility and dexterity to get away?

Sounds good to me! Also she could use her ability to become one with the water to help her spy.

I'm surprised IHMN didn't camment on my claim.

There is no point on argueing because you over estimate your tail. (Or maybe I underestimate it)

And Celes, will your character already be good at doing those things, or will she need some training (Provided by Vlad/Vlad's slaves)?