Ren: Good point... Though does mesmerize only include physical attraction, or anything (krylo's description does include mind), so would that make the target see the vampire more attractive in other features (Like for Renesvil and Jareth, obviously most of it is that Jareth is from the outside, and is bringing new ideas and such to the sheltered Ren)

Jad: Mesmerize only works on those who are attracted to the sex of the vampire in the first place. And since when does Jo have psionic abilities?

Edit - And even if he can enter Vlad's dreams, don't you think he might be able to overpower Jo, especially in his own mind?

Read the description of Stalkers again. It also concerns his past which is on a need to know basis and you don't need to know. Krylo knows and i'm not sure if he told Ren.

Also your not in your mind. Your in the realm of dreams. Jo knows the rules of the dream realm better than you. It's like fighting Freddy Krueger, well not that bad, but you get the idea. I don't think he could actualy kill you in reality if he killed you in your dream.

You know, I'm not sure if kry-baby is suppose to be derogatory or endearing...

Anyway: Strong emotions would have an effect on it, varying depending on each person. This doesn't go just for love, but for anything having to do a strong emotion. For instance, let's say x woman HATES Vlad with a vengence. Like, she wants to cut his testicles off and feed them to him kind of hate, mesmerize isn't going to suddenly make her like him. Maybe 'want' him... but not like him or give in to him. Same goes for love for someone else... it may attract them to him, and make it harder to resist him, but the love would help that person resist. In other words, their resistances would be weakened either way, but not as much.

Does Ejection and/or Conceal Thoughts include dreams?

And Freddy Krueger can be beat, and has been by kids. Vlad is better then kids...

Let's say I enter your dreams and ruitenly use my knowledge of the rules to beat the crap out of your dream self. Hit you with your worst nightmares etc. You'd probably develop an massive aversion or fear of Jo.

Ejection counts for dreams... but, as that you'd be, you know, sleeping... and sleeping isn't the best for concentrating, it would take you a little while to realize what was going on and eject him. Conceal thoughts... well, I don't know how you could keep it up while sleeping.

Also, killing you in your dream would just make you wake up in a panic. It really wouldn't accomplish much...

Edit: Ok, fine, so it could accomplish something.

How did I miss Jad's char suddenly picking up semi-psychic powers...

that's what I thought. but it would be useful for scaring the crap out of someone. as I said my Psionics are mostly useless. unless I want to do some long range scouting. Which Jo does for a living.

Because he PMed me about part of Jormungand's (am I spelling that right?) past, that grants him two (relatively useless) psionic abilities and limited abilities in astrology, and I ok'd it. I'd say more, but it seems he doesn't want you guys to know about his past, or he'd have mentioned it earlier instead of saying 'that you don't need to know'.

Still, dreams involve the dreamers mind, so Vlad still has some control over it. The first time Jo did it he might not notice, but after that I doubt it would be as effective.

And couldn't Vlad tell the difference between a natural dream and one created by an outside force?

Edit - The other one is Astral Projection isn't it?