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Zoran 08-03-2007 10:50 AM

My death is near.
 
Well while I was browsing these forums the doctor came in, he informed me that
I was going to me heading out soon, cause they thought I was cured and all, but weeks before I was to head out he did some more checkups and tests just to make sure but to late. Since I had this bloody sickness for 5 months without being hosbitalized and then finally put in It has already corrupted me and messed me up.
Sorry but I suck at details, and I will not bore you with them.

Well anyway my death date will probably be august 15-17, that what the doctors say if they cannot control the disease in time.

Its been fun guys.... you all kept me going but the sickness finally got me. For those wondering what I have I THINK okay I THINK this is what the doctor said.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/000077.htm

Well time to shut off my alienware laptop.... I love ya guys, take it easy.

(This isn't a joke either I'm being serious)
I will still try to post since thats all I can do.

Sky Warrior Bob 08-03-2007 11:03 AM

Allowing yourself to sink into despair, and being certain you're going to die doesn't help at all. Becomes a self-fullfilling phrophecy. Speaking after having a nasty brain tumor, and a large assortment of problems afterwards, I speak from experience that it isn't the best way to go.

Heck, I was given the prognosis of having a mere 2 years to live, before my turmor was even removed, and proven to be benign, and not cancerous.

Holding out hope isn't a bad thing.

And from my reading, it sounds as if you've got the same thing as the guy from the fairly recent airline scare. It might have progressed a bit further than his case, but I'd heard in the discussion of that case, that they can do an operation on your lungs that can fix it.

Not that I know anything, but regardless, I can say for certainy that Doctors can never tell you when you're exactly going to die. Nor are they always the greatest at telling you when its a lost cause. So don't give up hope yet...

Kevin

adamark 08-03-2007 11:41 AM

Holy Shit!!!!!!

Wow. What are you going to do before you die? Watch some sunsets, some sunrises? Go sky diving? Rob a bank? Get a girl pregnant? Play more video games? Burn something down? Pray?

This is sad news, and I don't even know you. You should definitely keep us updated until the bitter end....

TheSpacePope 08-03-2007 12:15 PM

Stay strong Zoran.
Keep it going.

Sir Pinkleton 08-03-2007 12:37 PM

My sympathy reaches out to you. Do stay strong, Zoran.

Zoran 08-03-2007 12:42 PM

Well just got dosed with drugs..... If the doctors can figure out what to do in about 3 days then my body can sustain itself so that the doctors can do further treatment, if they cannot figure out what to do, then I am doomed. And now my laptop has blood on it......

Demetrius 08-03-2007 12:45 PM

Man, stay tough. Giving up and giving in is the best way to ensure that you won't make it. I'll be praying for you anyway.

P-Sleazy 08-03-2007 02:08 PM

Best way to hold on to life is to give yourself a reason to hold on to life. If you lose your will to live, then that really is going to be it for you. We can't give you a reason to live, you have to do that yourself. But once you find a reason to keep your life going, you'll find it easier to hold on to your will to live which will help your body fight off this infection. Mind over Matter.

And until then, Just as Demetrius, I'll keep you in my prayers.

Aerozord 08-03-2007 02:36 PM

hey there are people who are given a ETD of weeks and live years. All a matter of how strongly you want to live

PS see this is why we need national healthcare, to pay for things like this

secretskull 08-03-2007 04:48 PM

It has been said by a few people here already, but I feel I should say it as well. A good amount of illnesses can (and have) been cured as much by willpower as by medicine.

Try and keep your body strong, but don't forget to do things that you enjoy, video games, reading, flinging snow at people during summer (Try it, its very therapeutic).

Also, make sure you go through all your options, and don't be afraid to turn to a lot of experts. Many people have died because they/their doctors weren't aware that help could be found in certain places.

Bob The Mercenary 08-03-2007 05:16 PM

It's things like this that make me realise my petty problems aren't worth anything in the big picture.

You'll be in my prayers as well man. Keep up the fight.

Zoran 08-03-2007 05:34 PM

Well the forums are the only happiness I get so I will try to stay on while im awake.

Long-Haired Narcissist 08-03-2007 06:37 PM

Well, I'll pray for you. Don't give up hope. A strong will can sometimes work just as good as medicine.

Kerensky287 08-03-2007 06:40 PM

Got any good PC games on your laptop? They can give you quite a bit of happiness! ;)

But seriously, keep the hope going. At the very least, it will extend your life span. Remember Terry Fox? He gets his leg amputated, and what does he do? He friggin' walks across the country! (Well, maybe you don't remember him... he's Canadian. Still, it's a pretty good example.)

Giving up is the worst thing you can do. Just keep going, fight through the pain. It works wonders.

If I prayed, you'd be in my prayers. But you'll be in my thoughts anyway. Keep coming to the forums as much as you want, you'll always be welcome here!

Zoran 08-03-2007 06:52 PM

I'm actually crying right now from all of your guys posts.
Thank you.

Bells 08-03-2007 06:52 PM

It is something sad to see and say, i can tell you that...

i can also tell you that its not over untill its over, so right now, you're not diying or dead... you're pretty much alive, just not well.

Sure, im simplifiying something that its not all that easy... but c'mon; if it is not your time, you aint going anywhere. But if it is that time, at least you can go out easy, calm, and knowing that people here know who you are...

Hell... everyday people die in obscurity or in VERY worst ways, all things considered, you can be sure thatyou've gone WAY more far than many people...

Damn it man, you faced this very well.. talking openly to people, reachign out... how many people just gets shut-in and give up because of much lesser problems?

Many, many do everyday.

and yet, here you are... still.

So dont quit untill its over, and when it IS over, be sure that you got your job done in your time.

Loyal 08-03-2007 07:06 PM

If it helps...

Think of it this way--You are neither dead, nor dying, if you're still capable of posting here. You can still think, you can still type, you can still appreciate the sympathies and the well wishes of your friends here at the forum.

And for that very same reason, you can still pull through this. Keep fighting.

Your time at the forum has given introduced you to a number of people who are intelligent and caring.

My thoughts are with you. Keep checking the forum, and remember that for every person who posts, that's one more person who'd prefer not to say goodbye. Keep that in mind before you see yourself off, aye?

Professor Smarmiarty 08-03-2007 07:19 PM

Stay strong man. We'll be praying for you.

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope 08-03-2007 07:23 PM

You'll be in my prayers. But you have to stay strong.

Ryanderman 08-03-2007 08:15 PM

Ditto what everyone else has said. You're in my prayers. Stay strong. I wish I had something else I could say, but everyone else has said it all. You've been great to know the whole time you've been here. So you can't leave. Not allowed. Keep fighting.

Zoran 08-03-2007 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerensky287
Got any good PC games on your laptop? They can give you quite a bit of happiness! ;)

Star Craft 1
Star Craft 2 Demo (Don't ask me how I got it)
Command & Conquer 3
WoW
And my game.

Bob The Mercenary 08-03-2007 11:18 PM

Dude, I will so take you in Starcraft. And fuck, I'll powerlevel you in WoW if you want.

TheSpacePope 08-03-2007 11:42 PM

Zoran I told you there were tons of good people here.
We are all pulling for you man, I just want to say that.
you are definitely in my thoughts.

mauve 08-04-2007 12:36 AM

You hang in there, Zoran; Don't give up. We're all praying for you.

Doc ock rokc 08-04-2007 12:54 AM

dude try to laugh... watch funny stuff on the internet
laughter is the best medicine....i know its a lame saying but a relitive of mine had cancer. when she was down she watched some old cartoons and laughed her head off every day...6 or 7 weeks later her cancer had shrunk and thay were able to pull it out.
KEEP ON FIGHTING!

Lady Cygnet 08-04-2007 02:18 AM

Keep fighting it. My prayers are with you.

Zilla 08-04-2007 02:40 AM

You can't die, you haven't won the internet yet.

Go win some internets!

Seriously, it's not over until it's over, and then you get to know some interesting answers to questions many people have about the afterlife. But really, I don't think your prognosis looks all that grim.

Zoran 08-04-2007 09:47 AM

Well another day goes and no news from the doctors.
Im trying to find some funny comics but to no avail. Seen VG cats and NP comics.

Telephalsion 08-04-2007 09:59 AM

Everyone has already said it, but still, keep living!
Miracles happen.

Fenris 08-04-2007 10:17 AM

Looking for funny comics, you say?

Least I Could Do
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal
Penny Arcade
Real Life
The Adventures of Dr. McNinja

Hang in there, man.

Zoran 08-04-2007 10:31 AM

Thank you FenrisWolf.
I appreciate it.

Bells 08-04-2007 11:03 AM

Not sure how good is your connection there... but you REALLY should browse Youtube for giggles

Doc ock rokc 08-04-2007 11:54 AM

Here is something i think is funny

Marn of Mayhem 08-04-2007 12:38 PM

This is sad news, mate. I don't know you at all, but whenever a life is about to dim out, I always get sad & droopy.

Stay strong, man. Live these days to the fullest, have fun, and don't regret anything. I'm agnostic, but I'll be thinking of you and hoping for the best. If you wanna talk or play a Starcraft game, drop me a line.

TheSpacePope 08-04-2007 03:19 PM

here are some more funny comics

Zoran 08-04-2007 03:20 PM

I need to stop reading funny stuff now.
It hurts when I laugh.

TheSpacePope 08-04-2007 03:22 PM

So tickling you is out of the question....

Dammit!

Zoran 08-04-2007 03:32 PM

What is Tickling in english?

TheSpacePope 08-04-2007 04:55 PM

how to explain ticking?

somebody want to help me out here.

n/m
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
tick·le /ˈtɪkəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tik-uhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -led, -ling, noun
–verb (used with object) 1. to touch or stroke lightly with the fingers, a feather, etc., so as to excite a tingling or itching sensation in; titillate.
2. to poke some sensitive part of the body so as to excite spasmodic laughter.
3. to excite agreeably; gratify: to tickle someone's vanity.
4. to excite amusement in: The clown's antics really tickled the kids.
5. to get, move, etc., by or as by tickling: She tickled him into saying yes.

adamark 08-04-2007 05:01 PM

inappropriate touching!!!

Zoran 08-04-2007 05:06 PM

I don't think I want to be tickled.

Jeneralissimo 08-04-2007 05:27 PM

Not by him, at any rate.

Anyhow, sorry, I just saw this thread. I will be praying for you. Doctors don't know everything; they just think they do. Stay strong. The forum is with you (and I can't think of people I'd rather have with me).

Ugainius 08-04-2007 05:38 PM

Not to mention that they have to say the bad stuff so not to get your hopes up. Never promise anyone they'll make it and all that.

The SSB Intern 08-04-2007 05:46 PM

I'm glad the forums could keep you this happy. Stay in good spirits and keep holding on man.

CelesJessa 08-04-2007 07:52 PM

"Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
and never stops at all."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeneralissimo
Doctors don't know everything; they just think they do.

Indeed. The doctors had all but given up on my aunt, but she pulled through, and even my very first doctor's first prognosis of me was that I was completely blind. Both of them were very wrong, so never give up hope.

Even if it seems grim now, if you keep your head up, there will be brighter times on the horizon. The best thing to do is keep hope and never give up.

I'm sorry I didn't post before, but I'll be praying for you, and I will continue to do so. Stay strong.

Zoran 08-04-2007 07:58 PM

Its okay CelesJessa.

And still no news on either they can do anything. I am trying to keep up hope but as every passing day goes by I keep losing hope....

Major Blood 08-04-2007 08:03 PM

Whoa man, that's heavy.

All i can think of is to suggest you see how many achievements you can get here. Everything else literally gets pushed from your mind. Also, reading old Maddox articles is good for a chuckle.

Fifthfiend 08-04-2007 08:46 PM

Quote:

I THINK okay I THINK this is what the doctor said.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/000077.htm
Tuberculosis? I thought antibiotics could treat that?

Zoran 08-04-2007 09:58 PM

Remember the thinky part.
And if these doctors can't figure out that cure, then I will probably kill myself.

RaiRai 08-04-2007 10:25 PM

Wiki Information.

Most people are given routine TB jabs when they are children. In fact, I think it's actually compulsory although I'd have to double check that.

(Edit: Couldn't find anything about compulsory shots, but I know that during a certain stage of the 80's there was an outbreak and people were vaccinated.)

I remember we had TB testing when I was in school and they were worried I might have had it because they couldn't find the 'pin prick' scar from when I had the jab as a child. -_-

TB deaths, as far as I have read, are only common in 'developing countries' where medical aid isn't as readily available and they have weaker immune systems (and no drugs to boost them.)

If you seriously have TB, you can be treated. Unless you live in a developing country, which would mean you wouldn't have access to the interwebz.

=P

Zoran 08-04-2007 10:49 PM

Doctors won't tell me what I bloody have cause no one will come into the room. I even got up and risked passing out again just to get a doctors attention. Which of course I did. A doctor finally came in and told me the exact same thing the other one did.

I asked him what do I have as it looked like they been avoiding that. Of course he just plain ignored me and walked off. I'm getting up again. Be back tomorrow after I wake up from passing out again.

And now I am coughing up blood, alot now. And now im hurting... help please..


Edit: Well since my stupid efforts of standing I am now pukeing blood as it seems. Hopefully it has stopt, These are my final farewells to the NP forums.

Goodbye everyone, If I live I will be sure to come back.

Krylo 08-04-2007 11:06 PM

The issue here is this--Since you joined one month ago, you've done little more than completely transparent pity mongering, that has slowly grown and grown. Now you're apparently dying of a disease you don't even know the name of in a hospital room that has no TV, yet inexplicably allows you to have internet access (despite the fact that VERY few hospitals have cable internet, and wireless fucks with their machines to keep people alive), and you've decided to spend your last few days talking to people on the internet that you've only known for a month.

Now, if you're actually, genuinely, sick, I'd imagine you'd a) stop bringing it up in every goddamn thread you post in, b) know what the crap you have, and c) go and spend some time with real life friends.

Honestly, the bullshit detector is off the charts here, and if by some strange twist of fate you really are sick, then I apologize--and the very very off chance that it may be real is the only reason we've allowed this thread. However, your constant pity mongering in other threads where people are trying to enjoy themselves (car thread, for instance) is annoying, pathetic, and indictive of an attention craving personality trying to get into the spotlight as much as possible, as opposed to an actual, honest to god, dying person.

I mean, really:
Quote:

Doctors won't tell me what I bloody have cause no one will come into the room.
And yet...
Quote:

A doctor finally came in and told me the exact same thing the other one did.
Apparently they WILL come into the room, and we STILL don't know what EITHER doctor ACTUALLY said.

Unless you're trying to confirm the consumption, in which case TB hasn't killed anyone who can afford an alienware laptop since Doc Holiday.

Trying to manipulate people's emotions in this way is uncool. Hell, making this big a deal of it even if you WERE dying would be in generally bad taste.

Provide us with a disease, some kind of evidence that you're actually dying and not just playing at people's heartstrings for a bit of cheap sympathy, or go away.

shiney 08-04-2007 11:16 PM

100% bullshit. Hands down. If you're dying, then I'll send your widow a ham.

Failing that, come clean now and bygones will be bygones. We will lock or delete this thread, we will move on like nothing ever happened. Persist in this transparent douchebaggery and we will remove you and the associated memories.

I mean seriously next thing you're going to say is the doctors figured out what you have, it's terminal cancer of the brain lungs heart kidneys and soul, and they could operate on you if it weren't for your minority status because obviously you're down and out and a victim of the system, by the way did anyone mention that they found a suitable donor for you but that said donor died in a car accident wherein all of the organs necessary for donation were mysteriously punctured by bits of shrapnel, and now you're being discharged from the hospital to go home and die in your house that burned down yesterday with your entire family and life savings inside.

Just stop it dude.

adamark 08-04-2007 11:18 PM

Yo, my necka's dyin', chill! Chill!!!

Bells 08-05-2007 01:21 AM

It IS somewhat of a odd thing Zoran... quite franklly i belived that it was really serious what you're saying... but there ARE a few quirks...

Now, even if you're liying or if you're telling the truth... at least try to understand that your not the first one to pull this sort of BS on this Forums... heck, as far as i know you're like the third of Forth person to do it... so there is precedent... and the moderators can check IP's, so if you had another account, they would know by now, so at least you got that covered

We all can have Sympathy for a persons problems and even offer the occasional owrd of advice or encouragement but C'mon man... you said that you're on that hospital bed for a few months... and yet NO ONE tells you what you have, you're 100% alone in a hospital, no family or friends, and yet you have a Alienware laptop with full internet acess... it IS odd even if it is all real.

Personally, i think that what grabs me the most is the constant "i got blood on me/my laptop but i still can type this" it is gross, but also a little bit to "Sin City" for me...

So really.... if you DO have a problem, my sympahty goes out for ya, but go get some answers or start giving some answers because the last couple of weeks were a little "too much", the name of the Hospital, where is it, who is your doctor, anything really...

RaiRai 08-05-2007 10:33 AM

There is plenty of cause for a lawsuit if the doctors aren't telling you your symptoms regardless of if they don't know the actual illness. What I found convenient was that when I posted, suddenly at that specific moment, things got worse. What I honestly now believe is that you'd been 'found out' and that you couldn't continue the lie any further.

Why do I believe this? I agree with Bellsouth. The injection of the word 'blood' whenever it seemed convenient and also the little suicidal note here:

Quote:

And if these doctors can't figure out that cure, then I will probably kill myself.
Because that's obviously why you're seeking pity and help, so that if they can't treat you, you can kill yourself instead. If this is the way your mind is thinking, why haven't you already killed yourself instead of waiting for a lingering death by an illness that you think might be TB?

Honestly, it makes people feel bad to see these threads and be skeptical. I mean, there are honest to God cases of people being sick and needing support, and they'd feel like jackasses unless they were nice and said something to keep your hopes up. And you achieved that for the most part with this thread. I hope whatever comfort you found from these genuine nice people makes up for the act of suddenly vanishing when it became apparent you couldn't keep up this tirade.

NMR 08-05-2007 12:34 PM

Good Luck, my wishes are out to you. Ouch about Turburculous.(sp?)

Telephalsion 08-05-2007 02:35 PM

I'm curious as to what Zoran's signature text says. I wish I knew russian.

Azisien 08-05-2007 02:41 PM

Okay, good. I just wanted to make sure everybody else was thinking total bullshit before I revealed my own suspicions. I didn't want to be the first person to do it in Discussion.

I wish I could post longer but all the blood on my screen is blocking my view.

Darth SS 08-05-2007 03:25 PM

It's nice to know I'm not alone. The past little while I've been raising an eyebrow, but otherwise tried to be nice enough to not say anything. I do, however, follow Krylo faithfully.


This thread specifically didn't trigger huge amounts of doubt, it was moreso the posting in every other thread. No disrespect intended but I've known plenty of people who have died, including most recently a friend who died of leukemia. They don't bitch and whine about it. Most of them said, "Okay, I'm going to die," stared it bravely in the face, and then went about trying to make their last days meaningful in some way.

Also....the title. "My death is near," is too...poetic.

Fifthfiend 08-05-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azisien
Okay, good. I just wanted to make sure everybody else was thinking total bullshit before I revealed my own suspicions. I didn't want to be the first person to do it in Discussion.

That's the problem with this sort of thing, is there's a degree to which you end up feeling obligated to buy into it because you think otherwise you're just being an asshole. It takes your own decent impulses and turns them against you, which is just one more part of how this kind of emotional manipulation works and exactly why it is such an incredibly shitty thing to do.

I'm gonna go ahead and close this cause either Zoran's done a runner or the whooping cough finally caught up with him. Zoran if you do decide you want to come back then you can do a new thread in which I will expect you to apologize to 1. Brian Clevinger whose forum you disrupted, 2. the moderators whose job is immeasurably harder when people decide to create shitty situations like this one, and most importantly 3. every single forumer who got his or her emotions jerked around so you could get some kind of kick out of making people feel awful. Like shiney said we're willing to let you have another go here but only if you can demonstrate that you understand this is a horrible thing to do to people and that it will never, ever, ever happen again.

Or hey if you can actually turn up those medical charts or whatever and prove what a bunch of awful suspicious picking-on-dying-kids assholes we are then I'll be the first one here to apologize.


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