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NMR 08-15-2007 11:43 AM

What! A NEW RPG!
 
After checking the RPG thread by Lord Setheris, I began to think a bit. Almost everyone hear has a form of talent, weather it be photoshopping, drawing, or some other fairly artistic talent. So maybe we could do our own video game. Give the NPF one one more reason to own all other forums.

Yay or Nay? You decide. I'm just throwing the idea out there. I think it could really work. Personally I'm a bit of a programmer, and learning. Well if you agree began posting story ideas, characters, whatever. I've got to boot.

Azisien 08-15-2007 12:11 PM

Over the years I've been here there's probably been three or four (or more) attempts to make some kind of NPF video game using RPG Maker. They always fall through.

Before starting on actual game design, you may want to consider what exact medium we would use to make it.

Lord of Joshelplex 08-15-2007 12:24 PM

Id be in, though solely for story purposes, me and coding go together like virgin maidens and greek gods, as in, not so much with the good.

Bells 08-15-2007 08:33 PM

Here's the scoop:

GEt Galaxy Mage

Expend 12 hours in it to learn how to mod it (its THAT easy)
PS: Use Notepad++

Join the gang and make the NPF Tactical RPG

Its Suikoden meets NPF meets Final Fantasy Tactics...

NMR 08-15-2007 08:35 PM

We wouldn't use RPG maker, because well, it sucks when you want a real RPG. We can choose a medium. I don't personally care, but would prefer ruby, or something with large possibilities. I really can't do an RPG Maker game, and beleive me, I've tried.

Lord of Joshelplex 08-15-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellsouth Minion
Here's the scoop:

GEt Galaxy Mage

Expend 12 hours in it to learn how to mod it (its THAT easy)
PS: Use Notepad++

Join the gang and make the NPF Tactical RPG

Its Suikoden meets NPF meets Final Fantasy Tactics...

Oh man, I want to be a Muay Thai fighter who also uses a scyhte, and he has a big trenchcoat and has a face warp and glasses, and control metal!

Zoran 08-15-2007 09:31 PM

Personally I wouldn't play a NPF anything.
Cause just the forms is a adventure enough.

Nayno 08-15-2007 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NMR
We wouldn't use RPG maker, because well, it sucks when you want a real RPG. We can choose a medium. I don't personally care, but would prefer ruby, or something with large possibilities. I really can't do an RPG Maker game, and beleive me, I've tried.

What do you mean by "real" RPG? I've seen some really complex stuff done in RPG Maker, even the older versions like 2k and 2k3.

RPG Maker XP is based on Ruby. It's got a script editor, so you can pretty much do anything you want. It'd be a lot easier than building the engine from scratch. I don't know any Ruby, but I'm very familiar with RPG Maker's pre-scripted commands.

Loyal 08-15-2007 10:17 PM

I've had an idea or two for a video game based off some scenarios with the NPF at the center... but I don't think I'll be divulging them so soon (especially seeing as the backstory is centered largely around Loyal and Nexus, eventually shifting to a global--whoops!)...

NMR 08-16-2007 11:18 AM

Hmm... you have? Well maybe it is a possibility then, though I would like to see those games.

Oh, and by real, I mean it could possibly compete with some of the old skool RPGS, like some of the older FFs perhaps. Not Chrono Trigger though, because its to damn awsome.

Edit: Ya, I know XP uses Ruby, but first we gotta translate most of the JP, before we can begin to start scripting.

bluestarultor 08-16-2007 11:41 AM

I'm trying to build a game of my own in VB. I know absolutely no ruby, but I'll probably be learning it in the next couple years, anyway. Languages aren't that hard for me.

If, however, you need someone for pixel work, I can manage that quite nicely. I can PM you a couple sample tiles from my project, or maybe just send a full-blown Gaia avatar edit.

Arlia Janet 08-16-2007 12:20 PM

Hypothetically, I may have a translated copy of RPG maker XP. I've never used it, but I hypothetically I may have it. If someone were to pm me, I could find a way to get it to someone with the expertise, time ane will to use it.

h4x.m4g3 08-16-2007 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellsouth Minion
Here's the scoop:

GEt Galaxy Mage

Expend 12 hours in it to learn how to mod it (its THAT easy)
PS: Use Notepad++

Join the gang and make the NPF Tactical RPG

Its Suikoden meets NPF meets Final Fantasy Tactics...

Oh man add me in as a summoner/super mage. My character would be the one that takes five rounds to use a spell that destroys reality (literally it would give our guys super haste for 2 rounds, or kill an enemy.)

As for contribution to the game, I guess I could do artwork (box art, illustrations, etc.)

Nayno 08-16-2007 12:59 PM

I also have the english version RMXP. All of the script comments are in english, and so is the help file. Only illegally translated versions have japanese in them, though that's not to say that there aren't illegal copies of the english version.

I don't mean to push RMXP so hard, as there are a lot of other great options out there. I just want everyone to know how much better RMXP is compared to its predecessors. :) Sadly, the RPG Maker community is mostly stuck on 2k3, and not a lot of games have come out for RMXP.

Bells 08-16-2007 06:11 PM

I'll help you lazy suckers ¬¬

https://gna.org/projects/tactics

Just browse around... there are other free game engines besides RPGMXP

PyrosNine 08-16-2007 11:01 PM

I recall something like this "Galaxy mage" in program I got off of sourcefourge, and I never could compile the damned thing in my coding inexperience.

But a Tactics game sounds awesome, or possibly something online.

Y'see, RaiRo has actually been the only working "NPF GAME" for us here, because it's online and allows our forum personas to meet in a game world, and some other online game would work just as well, especially if we could more heavily personalize it to NPF.

As for RPG Maker XP, I'd need a copy to help, cuz I've just got the sucky 2000.

Anyway, as always I'd love to throw in my writing talents and ideas. here's hoping this one doesn't follow it's predecessors.

Edit: While it does look like a snap to edit and create for this "Galaxy Mage" thing, it doesn't look finished or up to polish, and doesn't have a way to end a scenario other than "defeat all enemies.".

Satan's Onion 08-17-2007 01:43 AM

I don't know how much use this offer might be at this stage, given that you haven't even started on the programming stuff yet, but I'm good at dialogue. I know nothing of actually building a game, mind you, but I can write. Let me write some dialogue, if you like--a few smartass NPCs, maybe, or let me throw in plot ideas.

Fifthfiend 08-17-2007 01:47 AM

You know what, I say go nuts and god bless. I'd actually love to see one of these projects really get off the ground.

PyrosNine 08-17-2007 02:56 AM

RPG engines Pyros found while he should be sleeping:

http://hamsterrepublic.com/ohrrpgce/...Main_Page.html (Simple, yet indepth RPG making program.)

http://zeldaclassic.com/ (It's friggin zelda! I can see it now: the Legend of MAUVE!)

http://sphere.sourceforge.net/ (Dunno. Found it. Whatever.)

http://www.runesword.com/rs2.html (More complicated RPG game and RPG Maker, now free open source.)

Ryu Kurai 08-17-2007 03:55 AM

Y'know, I am going to college in Arizona to Major in Game Programming.

Although I haven't so much as coded my own website yet. We'll see how it goes.

But, yeah, I would totally love to make a mini-RPG out of the forums. Maybe like .hack, without all the suck.

Although it would have to play like Disgaea. With team attacks and stuff.

And we would have to give Fifth the ability to ban any characters who hadn't pre-ordered Atomic Robo.

PyrosNine 08-17-2007 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryu Kurai
Although it would have to play like Disgaea. With team attacks and stuff.

And we would have to give Fifth the ability to ban any characters who hadn't pre-ordered Atomic Robo.

Exactly! I'm searching my brain off for a Tactics-esque engine that doesn't suck! If need be, I'll find out how to hack FFTA!

And I was even thinking it'd be awesome to throw some Marvel Legends in there, with certain parties getting power-ups based on the combination of forumites in it. Like, say, +5 agility bonus for having Silly Kitty, CheshireThief, and Me because we're all cat-people.

And if it were like FFTA, the Mods could be like the Judges, which would make us hate them more when we go into battle and it's against the law to use swords.

I have gotten Python to mess around with GalaxyMage, but there's not much I can do. I have managed to make a custom class and ability, and I'm doing work on trying out my own sprites, and I don't seem to have what I need to mess about with the engine.

Ryu Kurai 08-17-2007 10:37 AM

I'd be OK with doing a straight rip of FFTA. Making more races/classes can't be that hard.

I mean, SquarEnix did it, and they're all on more drugs than Pac-Man and Mario combined.

Trust me, if I do it, I will so be going here for input.

After all, it's not like the internet's moving.

Mr.Bookworm 08-17-2007 10:58 AM

I could do something.

I have zero experience at coding, but I could chip in on the writing.

Or design classes/races/items/weapons. Or something.

NMR 08-17-2007 12:48 PM

Wow, compared to the first post, this thing is really movind. Anyways... lets make a descion on how the battle sytem shall be, since everyone all giddy on that.

Choices include:

Tatical
Action Based(Zelda or Tales of)
Classic
MMO(Hell its a possibility)

Also we to solitify Classes if we'er doing them:

Warrior
Archer
Knight
Priest/Cleric (I say male and female are not clones in each class)
Wizard
Lancer
Thief
Caviler(sp?) (Hell, this is so FE ripped)

Keep going.

Mr.Bookworm 08-17-2007 01:22 PM

MMO's not really an option, unless you can find someone willing to devote all of there waking hours to it with a lot of server-space and a buncha free money.

I'd give my vote to tactical.

There's also something I thought of.

Would you guys want to do a different setting other than standard cookie-cutter fantasy? There's a bunch that would be fun. Sci-fi, steampunk, etc., etc.

PyrosNine 08-17-2007 01:29 PM

Cavalier, NEWB! Oh wait, you're NMR. Not Newb. My bad.

As for classes, this IS NPF!

We have:
Mage: Mauve BMGirl, Red Mage black, although maybe he's a Red Mage? Is he a red mage whose name is Black?
Necromancer: DB, although Wizard would also fit.
Undead: Krylo
Elementalist: Pyros, Raiden, Incendius, Flare
Vampire: Sometimes Krylo
Mod: THE Mods, duh.
Heavy Swordsman: Everyone who's ever played FF7 and watched anime
Mime: TBM
Musician/Troubadour: Cheshy, Starky,
Gunner: Krylo
Thief/Ninja: Inbred
Tankman: Mammoth
Lawyer-Ninja: Ryu-Karai (just for having a phoenix Wright avatar)
Naga: Flare
Capitalist: POS
Chaos-Mage: Arhra, Rhiya, Pyros

The list goes on!

Dagoth 08-18-2007 03:12 PM

I could try helping with writing or game design. I have some good ideas for the latter, and it's easy to come up with the former. Just, I haven't actually done the game designing.

Loyal 08-18-2007 04:03 PM

Hold it, Pyros...

Regarding classes, we should probably look upon two things:

1) More general, standard classes (Warrior, Mage, etc). Branches and offshoots can come after...

2) Maybe the forumites would be better off deciding their own classes? The directino you're going there (unless it's a joke), there won't be any workable classes whatsoever... Just characters with various abilities, some whom are similar to each other.

PyrosNine 08-18-2007 04:34 PM

Well, okay, but I still think the classes should be at least a little more exotic than just Warrior, Mage, etc.

Dagoth 08-18-2007 04:53 PM

Is it possible to institute a normal system of class creation?

neyo the king 08-18-2007 05:13 PM

I want in on this.

I have no abilities in coding, writing, artwork, or anything useful, but I'm with Fifth, I want to at least see on of these things get off the ground.

Sithro 08-18-2007 06:00 PM

Are you guys going for a Final Fantasy Tactics fan game, or your own original game?

NMR 08-18-2007 10:51 PM

First of all, were going for an original game, but based off FFT and the the other tatics. I'll make a class list setup soon and we'll tweak it from there.

Also, you mentioned evereyone there, yet not me, the thread creator. I'm insulted.

Edit: Calling me NEWB!!! Meh... I threw the idea out there, as a reference at least.

Truce 08-19-2007 03:31 AM

One suggestion.

Editable Class names.

It'd just add another extra touch to truly feeling like you have an army under control.

Of course, all my mages would be renamed, "Spell Bitches," but that's exactly what I want to do in the first place.

NMR 08-21-2007 01:44 PM

Time for an update!!!

Unfortunantly, I've yet to get the class lists going, with school starting tomorrow, and band riding up my ass. I'll list by Friday, I hope.

Anyways, on the story!!! Begin posting ideas and framework for characters, ect.

Mr.Bookworm 08-21-2007 03:21 PM

I'd be willing to do the villians.

Because I already have an idea.

CoolZidane 08-22-2007 11:14 AM

If I may throw in my two cents:

I'd recommend getting the story figured out first. Believe me, it'll be a lot easier to make the game if you know how everything is laid out.

People who are doing the battle system can work that out while the story folks work on the story, but much of the actual game design should wait until a basic story outline (at the very least) is done.

I may also volunteer my work as a composer.

Azisien 08-22-2007 11:57 AM

If I had more free time to devote to this I would have definitely helped. I have about 6 or 7 years experience in game design and administration, including world building and scripting (Java/C++ style).

As far as a general storyline goes, it would be neat to see NPF as a country, alongside a world with all the other webcomics out there. A PA country, CAD country, etc etc. The game could begin with a huge invasion of trollers (from 4chan, say) sweeping across Webcomica and annihilating the other countries. NPF, the last stand!

Bells 08-22-2007 04:48 PM

we do have artists here... so concept sketchs of People, monsters and Places are easier..plus, thereARE peopel who do the sprite editing dance... so that's a tad easier

Rygar 08-22-2007 05:35 PM

I'll just say I hope this gets off the ground.

I doubt I'll be able to help much since there are those among us (like, everyone) who're much better than me at expressing their wit through text, I can't draw pictures or edit sprites and I know nothing of coding.

Oh, and I'm not much of what you'd call an Ideas Man.

Bells 08-22-2007 05:47 PM

Then you can Record your beatifull voice for us, because the "Deluxe Edition Platinum Strike Unlimited Exxxtreme" will feature full voice acting for every dialog!

NMR 08-22-2007 06:15 PM

I hav a base list! WOOT!

----Base Classses----

-Warrior

-Mage

-Archer

-Theif

-Soilder

-Preist/Cleric


----Stage 2 Classes----

-Gladiator (Warrior)

-Wizard/Witch (Mage)

-Rouge (Theif)

-Knight (Soilder)

-Lancer (Soilder)

-Hunter/Huntress (Archer)

-High Preist/Sister (Preist/Cleic)


----Stage 3 Classes----

-Champion (Warrior)

-Assassin (Rouge)

-Warlock/Sorceress (Wizard/Witch)

-Deadeye (Hunter/Huntress)

-Bishop/-No female name yet- (High Priest/Sister)

-Halberdier (Lancer)

-Paladin (Knight)


----Complex Classes----

-Crusader (Paladin/Champion)

-Elementress (Witch/Warrior)
-Female Only

-Hero (Champion/Halberdier)

-Pirate (Theif/Warrior)
-Male Only

Lets MOD it away! POst ideas, changes whatever, and I''l keep this list updated. Also start posting story ideas.

Ryu Kurai 08-23-2007 11:26 PM

For Story, we'd have to have some reason for the normally skittish and undependable forumites to unite. Something big.

We could always do the whole "You get sucked into a fantasy Dimesion, have fun lol." But that's been done.

We could say that some unknown force has turned the forums into this, and in order to save the 8-Bit website or something, we all have to work together in this strange game.

Kind of sounds like .hack, but what doesn't?

Or, we could say this takes place in an alternate universe where instead of a bunch of posters we're all a bunch of warriors. Have an original story but put the names on the characters as we see fit.

Maybe the Mods are nobility in this world, and each section of the country is known as a Forum... Towns are called Threads, etc.

Also: If I am to be a Lawyer-Ninja, I must shout "Objection!" with each flurry of Shuriken.

NMR 08-24-2007 11:34 PM

Well them, I must send out hoards of useless, yes useless, zombies that stall till I use my uber spell. It doesn't calculate damage, it just say "Pwned."

Satan's Onion 08-25-2007 01:42 AM

Also, for what it's worth, I volunteer to be this game's official Spelling and Grammar Meanie--let me run through text for mistakes and things. Because I'm picky like that, and I want this game to be awesome right down to the item names ( b^__^)b .

Ryu Kurai 08-25-2007 03:22 AM

Oh, ditto. I mean, seriously, I nearly busted my PS1 controller because of all the errors in FFT. They gave me migraines and beat my inner child.

Yeah, go "Die in obscurity," whatever that means.

Although I'm far from perfect. I still am unable to properly use semicolons. I blame FFT for that.

Satan's Onion 08-25-2007 03:32 AM

Don't worry; I shall handle the semicolons! ^_^

(Speaking of semicolons, Ryu Kurai, have you ever read Lynne Truss's Eats, Shoots and Leaves? It's an excellent book about punctuation and grammar, and enjoyable to read at any level of grammatical mastery. And, wouldn't you know it, it includes a section on semicolons, which I found to be quite helpful. I do hope I didn't abuse my commas in the previous couple of sentences...)

Ryu Kurai 08-25-2007 03:44 AM

Ah, I got that and a couple of other books before I moved. And now, a mere two hours away from my college, you had to go and remind me that they're still at home. Damn Damn.

I need a flux capacitor and 1.21 Gigawatts of power. But how am I gonna generate that kind of power...?

Akamaz 08-25-2007 12:40 PM

let me offer an idea for another "Warior" class (since soldier has two stage two)

Brawler - I use my ass kick fu powers to beat you up

also, i'd make Witch and Wizard seperate stage two classes, ith wizzie being DD and the witch being debuff

Lord of Joshelplex 08-25-2007 06:15 PM

Make there a mechanic class, just for the hell of it, and later tiers can pilot mechs, because that would own.

bluestarultor 08-25-2007 11:34 PM

Here's my own personal running list. Not long, but:

Mages/Psychics:

Those who bend reality to their will. Psychics get more unique spells, but must learn them on their own to reflect their growing abilities, while mages learn spells from books.

Black - casts the spells that make the peoples fall down
White - casts the spells to pick them up again
Blue - can replicate spell effects they experience and get unique spells from books, beasties, or even junk they find lying around (Quistis, I'm looking at you!)
Red - jump the fence both ways LIKE THE PIGS THEY ARE!!!! (joking)


Fighters:

The dudes and dudettes who totally swing their bodacious swords at the enemy.

(Just as a side note, after typing that, I tried to change back my font. XD )

Monks - unarmed or otherwise Asian-style combat with chucks, tonfa, etc.
Warrior - swords, axes, maces, and other heavy weaponry
Fencer - rapiers, daggers, katana, and other honor-based combat


Rogues:

They'll steal your heart and possibly your wallet.

Archer - fire off arrows like Legolaus or better
Thief - are so good they could steal their own pants without them finding out
Ninja - use traps and the mighty Throw command to embed pointy objects in the heads of others (maybe that's how BM threw the dagger. Learned spell. :brow: )

NMR 08-26-2007 03:59 PM

Archers or not better than Legalaus, cause they're early newbs. Now a Deadeye; they can beat Legalaus WITHOUT a bow. Thats just pimped in my opinion.


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