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Darth SS 08-22-2007 03:35 PM

Michael Vick
 
So...this is a mite beyond silly, and has once again made me seriously question my faith in humanity.

Undoubtedly you've heard by now that Michael Vick has been indicted before a Federal Jury with charges of orchestrating a dog fighting ring, killing the dogs himself, and betting on the aforementioned fights. Recently, he allegedly agreed to a plea bargain, the details of which were not disclosed. So, he's essentially admitted he did it.

My initial assumption was that that story would break, we'd learn his sentence, and that would be the end of it. But something completely different has happened. Every news station I've watched in the last 24 hours has run a collection of "segments" that run from "When will he be back in the NFL, and who will sign him?" to people saying "The NFL is more concerned about the gambling." There have been interviews with team-mates where they say they want to work through this with him, and that they'll help him work through his demons. There has been interviews with former NFLers saying they've been to dog-fights, and there I even saw a segment where someone was trying to downplay dog-fighting by comparing it to hunting. Even the great Payton Manning, when asked about Vick the recent Bears-Colts pre-season game merely grimaced and said "I got no comment on that."

People are trying to downplay and justify Michael Vick's actions. There seems to be an effort to paint him as a victim, and a tortued soul. Yet...there is indication he was doing it for quite some time, he hasn't issued a public apology, and other defendants are testifying that Michael Vick was the ring-leader. To this I am forced to ask this simple question of humans...


ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?


Why are people doing this!? They (The Atlanta Falcons, the Atlanta Falcons organization, and the NFL) publicly say that dog-fighting is bad and then they defend Michael Vick. People with no personal connection to him whatsoever are trying to downplay his actions, and take attention away from the fact that he's admitted to killing dogs when they failed to amuse him. I don't give a flying fuck if he holds the rushing record, I don't care how nimble and elusive he is when flushed from the pocket! He has agreed to confess before a jury of his peers that he did something that is commonly held to be ethically wrong, and is unquestionably legally wrong! Why in the name of whatever deity to ascribe to are people trying to make that go away!?

Bells 08-22-2007 04:40 PM

I would gladly vote "Yes" to sentence him into a arena fight to death against other ring-leaders retards

And if he survives that, then i could shot him in the head over the justification that "im not amused over your feats...",and the NFL would protect me, even though i dont play for the NFL... just because they like this shit apparently





Yeah... i hate people who do that sort of shit ¬¬

Lady Cygnet 08-22-2007 06:07 PM

Vick might be a good quarterback, but he lacks two things that every quarterback needs: self-control and self-discipline. What he did to those dogs was deliberately cruel and selfish.

Some people have pointed out that players who have done worse things than Vick have returned to the NFL. I do not believe that those players should have been allowed to play again, and I do not believe that Vick should be allowed to play again, either. There are plenty of young, talented individuals who would never dream of hurting a soul of any kind who would be more than happy to fill those vacancies. Playing for a professional team is a privilege, not a right, and people who abuse that privilege with criminal behavior should have that privilege revoked.

8 Man 08-22-2007 06:24 PM

Greed does strange things to people. "The love of money" and all that.

Magus 08-22-2007 06:37 PM

The reason people are trying to downplay his guilt is probably the same reason he was actually investigated in the first place: he's a famous football player. There are dog-fighting rings all around the country but you don't ever hear about a big dog-fighting ring bust on the news until someone as high-profile as this is indicted. It's a terrible state of affairs and hopefully some good will come out of this, i.e., dog-fighting will be more strictly punished and investigated. However, there comes a time when you have to face the truth: the reason it's being played up is because it's Michael Vick doing it, not because the enforcers actually had some on-going anti-animal cruelty investigation task force. And that is the real shame.

Xaeta 08-22-2007 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth SS

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?


Why are people doing this!?

He's an Athelete making millions is he not? THUS, he's the 'social elite' and one of the rich in America so the American media will does not want him to be taken down by something like that. Thus the media will protect him.
Americans believe what the media tells them because (AS BIASED AS THE FUCKING MEDIA IS) American's can always trust the media.

Simply put, it's the display of power of the American media to protect people in an insane way.

Sir Pinkleton 08-22-2007 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaeta
He's an Athelete making millions is he not? THUS, he's the 'social elite' and one of the rich in America so the American media will does not want him to be taken down by something like that. Thus the media will protect him.
Americans believe what the media tells them because (AS BIASED AS THE FUCKING MEDIA IS) American's can always trust the media.

Simply put, it's the display of power of the American media to protect people in an insane way.

I think it's quite unfair for you to say that. Sure, The media is more in tuned to a great deal of Americans, and it's usually flawed in some way, but saying that "Americans believe what the media tells them" It's a stereotype of American people. Hell, I don't even watch T.V. and yet I'm still technically an American. Does that make me a "sheep" to what the news tells me? Absolutely not.

Darth SS 08-23-2007 12:35 AM

Also, why are you saying that the media protects people?

I watch the American Media go bat-shit loco whenever presidential candidates more clearly define their positions, and then point out what they believe to be flaws with other politicians. That is apparently a "slug-fest" and worthy of hours of air time.

The media has a fucking orgasm when a celebrity goes to prison, and all they do is rub that shame and humiliation in absolutely everyone's face. Famous peoples' "issues" are constantly blown out of proportion, and are constantly super analyzed with a fine tooth comb. If a professional athlete makes a spectacular mistake, you can bet that's going to be shown about a million times.

Believe me, if all I heard was "MICHAEL VICK FIGHTS DOGS AND MAY EAT BABIES BEFORE SELLING THEIR BONES IN EXCHANGE FOR COCAINE!" I'd be perfectly all right with that. That would just be the media being the media. Instead what I'm witnessing is the opposite, which is "Michael Vick killed dogs BUT the real problem is his betting problems. Oh, what a tortured soul, let's have a candle-light prayer vigil that his demons may be exorcised. Oh, how woe is him. O Discordia!"

Fifthfiend 08-23-2007 02:15 AM

The press is taking the exact opposite of the position any sane human being would take in order to gin up stupid fake controversy over something stupid, cause if they didn't do that then they might be forced to cover some matter of actual national significance in some kind of actually meaningful way. If they just said "Oh well he should probably go to jail" then that would be the end of the stupid story they're busy being stupid about, and then they'd have to go find some other reason to be stupid.

deadkoo 08-23-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth SS
Even the great Payton Manning, when asked about Vick the recent Bears-Colts pre-season game merely grimaced and said "I got no comment on that."


to be fair, number one payton manning is a stand up guy, and i think that was the appropriate response.

I somehow doubt that he condones the actions, but what did you expect him to say? that vick is a fucking moron and deserves to be shot? he'd be torn apart by the media.

does what michael vick did have ANYTHING TO DO with manning?
no.

so why do you expect him to have anything to do/say with it?

and for the record, vick should be shoved into a kennel of hungry Rots and be eaten alive.

hurray for poetic justice.


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