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Mike McC 08-25-2007 10:34 AM

The GBA rereleases of the games actually do have toned down difficulty. Having played the original Final Fantasy 4 hardtype, I can easily say that the GBA release had toned down monsters. Which is a real shame. I much prefer my games to be harder.

As for Final Fantasy III, I haven't played the DS remake, but my god the original game was hard. So, it'd be hard for a remake to make itself harder. So, if anything, it merely maintained the same difficulty.
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Originally Posted by Ryu Kurai
They've been saying they'll remake 7 for whatever the newest system is. I heard it for GCN, PS2, PSP, and I'm fairly sure only the PSP one came out.

No, rumors have been saying that FF7 will be released on a next gen system. Square-Enix keeps on debunking all of those rumors. The only next-gen thing about FF7 that was released was the 2005 E3 Playstation 3 Demo, which was a technical demo for the graphical capabilities of the PS3. There is no Final Fantasy 7 remake. Spin-offs? Yes. Remake? No.

ThunderousWrath 08-25-2007 11:47 AM

Tampering with FF4?

But FF4 is my favorite.

Which means all who play it are blasphemers!

Magus 08-26-2007 05:26 PM

Cecil is ugly. Graphics are superfluous because the gameplay has not been enhanced a wit (I wonder if you'll even be able to toggle between members whose ATB bars are full. I doubt it.)

"with added plot points from the original script that they couldn't fit in the SNES version"

Why do people always say stuff like this about Final Fantasy IV's remakes? Was it because the story was so simple and cliche that they assume there just HAS to have been more to it? I played the GBA version of FFIV which I assume has the full dialogue and all that jazz, and all I could see was that Edward is actually Gilbert and Edge's real name is Edward. And that is it. Golbez is still Cecil's brother, Kain was still really under mind control, and Golbez is still only a secondary villain to some uber-powerful master-lord, i.e., Zeromus, as per all the other Final Fantasy games.

It also had the gameplay options of Final Fantasy Chronicle's FF IV (Cecil's Dark Sword, increased difficulty?). Which were also in the GBA version. Which I assume will be in this new version.

In fact I wonder if you'll even be able to find Cid, Yang, Tellah, and cure Palom and Porom like you can in the GBA version. In a way it seemed like comic-book death, but then again killing them all off right after the other seemed like ridiculous. I prefer finding them all right as rain and switching them in/out of the party.

Mike McC 08-26-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus
"with added plot points from the original script that they couldn't fit in the SNES version"

Why do people always say stuff like this about Final Fantasy IV's remakes? Was it because the story was so simple and cliche that they assume there just HAS to have been more to it? I played the GBA version of FFIV which I assume has the full dialogue and all that jazz, and all I could see was that Edward is actually Gilbert and Edge's real name is Edward. And that is it. Golbez is still Cecil's brother, Kain was still really under mind control, and Golbez is still only a secondary villain to some uber-powerful master-lord, i.e., Zeromus, as per all the other Final Fantasy games.

It also had the gameplay options of Final Fantasy Chronicle's FF IV (Cecil's Dark Sword, increased difficulty?). Which were also in the GBA version. Which I assume will be in this new version.

In fact I wonder if you'll even be able to find Cid, Yang, Tellah, and cure Palom and Porom like you can in the GBA version. In a way it seemed like comic-book death, but then again killing them all off right after the other seemed like ridiculous. I prefer finding them all right as rain and switching them in/out of the party.

Well, the SNES version released in the states actually did have a watered down and edited story, compared to FF4 Hardtype released in Japan. It was sort of a cross between FF4 Hardtype and FF4 Easytype. So, the first remake of FF4 was actually justifiable, because there was a lot of stuff in it left out of the original US release. However, this will be the third rerelease of FF4, so it's getting highly redundant.

As for the characters that disappear from your party in the story, they all were alive and well at the Giant of Babel scene anyway, all except for Tellah. In every version he outright dies and doesn't come back. Only thing that FF4 Advance did was make it possible to swap out party members with them.

Arlia Janet 08-26-2007 09:59 PM

That's good to know. Rydia seemed to die every time a gentle breeze hit her. Give me Yang any day.

Nayno 08-27-2007 12:16 AM

Really, guys, the GBA port isn't even a remake. It's unfair to call FFIV DS the "second remake" because it's such a radical departure from the original. Not like FFIV GBA, which has the same graphics, the same dialogue, the same music, etc.
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In a recent interview with Famitsu, Square-Enix developer Takashi Tokita revealed that nearly 3/4 of Final Fantasy IV’s original script ended up being cut from the original SNES release. Tokita states that some of this material will be reworked into the upcoming DS remake.
From here.

Tendronai 08-27-2007 07:19 AM

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In a recent interview with Famitsu, Square-Enix developer Takashi Tokita revealed that nearly 3/4 of Final Fantasy IV’s original script ended up being cut from the original SNES release. Tokita states that some of this material will be reworked into the upcoming DS remake.
Bolding by me, and I knew this beforehand. The bolded part is really why I didn't care. They aren't fitting all of it back into the game, just part of it. If it works, then they have an excuse to try to 'remake' it again, with some other parts of the story. Even more, I remember from the source I originally heard this from (IGN, full story here) that

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The remake will see some areas fleshed out while others will be cut.
Bolding again by me. It's not like the game is going to be magically longer or have the full plotline : it'll be about the same legnth, with a slightly different storyline.

So the game will be different, but I really don't care. They cut those story elements because they weren't as good as the stuff that they had space for. I refuse to let nostalgia get in the way of that fact.

Skit 08-27-2007 08:43 AM

It's pretty, but goddammit I am not buying a third copy of Final Fantasy IV.

Coinspinner 08-28-2007 12:30 AM

At first I hated this remake, now I'm ambivalent. It actually looks kinda... good. Having emulated the hardtype version before there was any word on an American release this is the first version of FFIV that seems to be worth my money. If there's not too much load time and the animations are quick I'll buy it.

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Originally Posted by Barrel-Hating Sycophant
Final Fantasies 5 and 6 were piss-easy. Kind of hard to turn down the difficulties.
I found 4 really hard though. Don't know if it was just me.

It might just be you. I found it far easier than FFV and I don't disagree about that one being easy.

Mike McC 08-28-2007 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coinspinner
It might just be you. I found it far easier than FFV and I don't disagree about that one being easy.

The way to make it harder is to crank up the battle speed to the fastest. That'll amp up the challenge quite a bit. And yes, it makes a significant difference.


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