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Court Won't Hear Torture Case Because Then CIA Would Have To Admit To Torture
No, seriously:
Top court won't hear appeal in CIA torture case By James Vicini Quote:
...I guess this is as good a time as any to reiterate that torture doesn't even work: Fort Hunt's Quiet Men Break Silence on WWII Interrogators Fought 'Battle of Wits' By Petula Dvorak Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, October 6, 2007; Page A01 Quote:
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Good God! I knew Bush was doing this to American citizens, but now PEOPLE FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES!!!? Words cannot express how wrong I feel this is.
I'm SO glad I worked for the Kerry campaign. :stressed: |
It wrong. Plain and simple. It is cruel and inhuman treatment, a tregedy of human rights. It is evil, and there are no excuses. This is on the same level of evil as the actual terrorist bombings.
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that's funny....hahaha
I chuckle at their stupidity. the "CIA's extraordinary redition program..." hahaha! "A federal judge and then a U.S. appeals court dismissed the lawsuit because it threatened to expose government secrets, including how the CIA supervises its most sensitive intelligence operations." [National security and government secrets...wow...eventually they're gonna come out anyway, like now.] |
Meh, I just don't even care anymore. It used to be kind of surprising to hear things like this, or to hear any of this shit... I don't think Kerry would've made a good president, but in the end, when was the last time we've ever seen someone who would. Anymore it's just, let's see who is least likely to fsck me over...
Anyway, back on topic. Pretty much everyone already knew, or at least assumed, that the CIA was doing this. And I am almost positive other countries have done the exact same thing. And, at least as far as I can tell, this is going to get a lot more publicity, and here's why. It involves scandal with a president that a lot of people don't seem to like. It involves the US, which means other countries are going to make it a much bigger deal than if some other country had done it. Why? Because I get the distinct impression that Europe never likes us, regardless of who the president is... Anyways, my point with that is that this is going to become a much bigger scandal in the US than if it had involved a different president, and it is going to become a much bigger scandal outside of the US than if it had involved a different country. That doesn't make it right... I am in no way trying to justify anything. |
In the interest of answering Noncontradictory's first question, I think Gore would have been good.
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It's too bad that the US didn't stick with methods of interrogation that were actually effective, rather than just using prisoners as human heavy bags. It seems like it would be obvious that lulling someone into a false sense of security and manipulating his secrets out of him would get more information out of him than any other means of torture...unless they were to torture people that the prisoner cares about, such as his parents or children.
Then again, we are living in the twenty-first century, and there seems to be some reluctance in using non-violent means to extract information from a nation's alleged enemies. Meanwhile, the people in charge seem hell-bent on alienating every single ally the US has ever had at any point in time in history. |
We need, change. I mean I think it's possible that things like this have occurred throughout our history, in fact it's highly likely, but something sets it on edge at this juncture in time. Everything is sensationalized and broadcast and we're all fucking paranoid about something.
the conservatives are worrying anout some sort of muslim jihad armageddon while the liberals are terrified of the realization of some big brother-esque organization. I mean fuck, it's like America is playing a game of "creep myself out by watching zombie movies alone in the dark" except shit, that knock on the door is likely to be an actual animated corpse hell bent on devouring your sweet, sweet innards. I'm just sayin' |
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Frankly, if the Supreme Court won't take the case, I'm pretty sure it's within Congress' power to hold hearings and at least use Masri's testimony to bring some official light to this case. |
Yes, they wouldn't have agreed with the torture thing. That does not make them good presidents though. It just means they wouldn't support this atrocity.
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