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Bob The Mercenary 10-10-2007 05:24 PM

Another School Shooting
 
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071010/D8S6JSG80.html

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CLEVELAND (AP) - A 14-year-old suspended student opened fire in a downtown high school Wednesday before killing himself, and five people were taken to hospitals, authorities said. After the shooting, shaken teens called their parents on cell phones, most to reassure but in at least one case with terrifying news: "Mom, I got shot."

Mayor Frank Jackson said the three teens and two adults were hurt. He said the children were in "stable, good condition," and the adults were in "a little elevated condition."

The shooter was enrolled at the SuccessTech Academy alternative school but had been suspended Monday for fighting, said Charles Blackwell, president of SuccessTech's student-parent organization.

Blackwell said the shooter entered the high school, a converted five-story office building, and gradually worked his way up through the first two floors of administrative offices to the third floor of classrooms.

"Nobody knows how he got in," he said.

Student Doneisha LeVert, who hid in a closet with two other students after she heard a "Code Blue" alert over the loudspeaker, said the shooter had threatened students Friday.

"He's crazy. He threatened to blow up our school. He threatened to stab everybody," she said.

Ronnell Jackson, 15, said he saw a shooter running down a school hallway.

"He was about to shoot me, but I got out just in time," he said. "He was aiming at me I got out just in time."

LeVert said she heard about 10 shots.

"I heard gunshots but I just thought someone was banging a book on the desk," said Rasheem Smith, 15. He soon realized there was a shooting and told his classmates to flee down the stairs.

Tammy Mundy, 38, who has a son and daughter at the school, told The Plain Dealer that her daughter called when the shooting started.

"She said, 'Mom they're shooting in here, kids are running out, I'm hiding in the closet,'" Mundy told the newspaper.

Then she called her 18-year-old son, Darnell Rodgers, on his cell phone, and he told her he had been shot in the arm.

"He said, 'Mom, I got shot,'" Mundy told the newspaper.

Rodgers' girlfriend, 17-year-old Lateisha Riddlehill, who hid in a bathroom during the shootings, confirmed that Rodgers had been shot in the elbow. She said he told her he was going to be fine.

The mayor said the other two teens injured were a boy and a girl, both 14, and that the girl had fallen and hurt her knee while running out of the school.

A hospital spokeswoman said Rodgers was listed in stable condition. David Kachadourian, 57, was in good condition, and a 42-year-old man was in surgery and his condition unavailable. The other two injured teens were taken to a children's hospital, which would not release their names, ages or conditions.

Students stood outside the building, many in tears, hugging each other and on cell phones. Others shouted at reporters with TV cameras to leave them alone. Family members also stood outside, anxiously waiting for their children to be released.

"I'm scared. I'm hoping no more people got hurt," Ronnell Jackson said.

The shooting occurred across the street from the FBI office in downtown Cleveland, and students were being sent to the FBI site.

"There are a lot of emergency vehicles," said spokesman Scott Wilson. "They're just trying to sort things out right now."

Wilson said he had no information on the shooting.

SuccessTech Academy is an alternative high school in the Cleveland city school district that emphasizes technology and entrepreneurship. It is is housed on several floors of the district's downtown Cleveland Lakeside Avenue administration building.

"It's a shining beacon for the Cleveland Metropolitan School System," said John Zitzner, founder and president of E City Cleveland, a nonprofit group aimed at teaching business skills to inner-city teens. "It's orderly, it's disciplined, it's calm, it's focused."

The school, opened five years ago, ranks in the middle of the state's ratings for student performance. Its graduation rate is 94 percent, well above the district's rate of 55 percent.
A fourteen year old commits an attempted murder suicide. How come this doesn't have the shocking effect it used to? Maybe it'll come back when a kindergarten gets shot up...oh yeah, that amish guy....

From the pictures on the news site I assumed this was a lower class area, which might equal easy access to weapons in some cases. But, it's graduation rate is almost double the rest of the district's. I think it all boils down to the same old mistakes that have been made time and time again. This kid clearly had problems, he was suspended for fighting, he threatened students with death and no one responds.

Puppetmastermaster 10-10-2007 05:58 PM

What happened to the shooter?

Aerozord 10-10-2007 06:08 PM

shooter killed himself

bananarama 10-10-2007 07:08 PM

Oh my god! I never heard about this on the news or in my school... It really is depressing when these incidents happen. I'll be sure to include the people at that school in my prayers.

ArlanKels 10-10-2007 07:37 PM

At least the FBI didn't have to go far to get to the crime scene.



I'm surprised they don't mention the type of firearm used, as that's something I'm accustomed to seeing in news reports. It'd be interesting to know if he was using a plain old pistol or if he had something a wee bit more packing in power, although I'm betting it was something like a .22 given the distinct lack of fatalities.

Bells 10-10-2007 08:17 PM

You know... the fact that i only see news about those things in the US, sure as hell packs an untruthfull first-impression...

Yeah, i know that it's not all that hard to get a firearm in the USA... but the fact that i've hardly ever seen news of school shootings outside the US, really puts a bitter tasty in my mouth when thinking of the "whys" behind shit like this... im sure other countries have stuff like that too... Swiss, UK, Japan, Italy... but all aroudn the world, 95% of the time, i only see things like this happening on the US... its disturbing.

Melfice 10-10-2007 10:38 PM

Basically, and I really don't mean to upset anybody here, we Europeans are mostly raised with a sense of common sense.

Guns aren't awesome here. Almost nobody civilian carries a firearm. Kids can't GET to a firearm without proving you're 18 AND have a valid gun-club license.

That's why you almost never hear of students shooting eachother over here.

Bob The Mercenary 10-10-2007 10:58 PM

I was raised with a sense of common sense. I don't think guns are cool. I see where you're coming from, though.

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That's why you almost never hear of students shooting each other over here.
I think this can be contributed to two things. 1) I heard a while back that the UK and some other European countries are big into school uniforms and a large amount of control on school grounds. I wouldn't oppose this here, but just try getting a vote passed.

And 2) it could be argued that the US offers a greater amount of freedoms than countries on the other side of the pond. Which could be a good thing or bad, depending.

And like you, I'm not trying to stir anyone up. Everyone knows 99.9% of our school kids are dicks.

Lord of Joshelplex 10-10-2007 10:59 PM

I am shocked. This has become so commonplace I dont even bat an eye when I hear about another school shooting.

Bells 10-10-2007 11:16 PM

Well, you know... it's a weird thing... those things get down on schools, so we can relate that this is where it started (if it was family problems, then the kid you probably gund down his own family...) but what throws me off on that line of though is that somehow they react on this line of "sense"... where they want to go down, but taking as many as they can with then... it's like the ultimate cry for attention...

Im nto saying that the problem is the culture in america, but it's weird that if you try to pinpoint a common root for those problems... you get a "not quite that..." feeling...


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