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The Swift-Boating of Graeme Frost
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Becasue they are idiots. I dont care if I get banned, I think all people like that are fucking retards who dont care at all for the people of their own god damned country.
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The problem I have in situations like this is the tendency for people to let their feelings make their decisions and not reason. Bringing in the kid is about as low as you can get; what kind of a monster would deny that poor child his benefits? In this case I agree with the legislation and the tax being placed only on cigarettes, I disagree with the tactics being used. For every one Graeme there is out there there are a thousand kids whose parents do the responsible thing and get gainful employment. In the case of Graeme's family, I have to say I do not agree with them having 6 (!) children and not having health care, that is downright irresponsible.
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The parents are gainfully employed.
They don't have health care cause health care is, well, obscenely expensive, even for many people who are gainfully employed. This is the entire point of the SCHIP legislation. These parents are only irresponsible to the extent that responsible = "don't have any kids, ever." I mean last I checked, being gainfully employed in a stable marriage and raising several children was, like, the actual definition of responsible. I mean I'm pretty sure that's even the Republican Party's own definition of responsible. It's just that for whatever reason, the Republican Party's leadership is against policies that make it possible to live in the way that they themselves deem responsible. Also I'm not sure what the issue is with the tactics; every time any politician sells a policy they get some family or bunch of kids or whoever to stand on stage and say something nice about the policy. The only way this differs from any major policy proposal in the last seven years is that the President Bush usually puts a bunch of kids on stage to promote policies that make lots of kids worse off, whereas the Democrats are using children to promote a policy that actually helps a lot of children. Honestly this is the worst fake controversy since "OMG DID YOU KNOW NANCY PELOSI SOMETIMES FLIES IN AIRPLANES? DESPITE BEING A FEMALE??" There should almost just be a recurring feature on CNN: "When Democrats Don't Actually Do Anything Even Slightly Wrong, But We Want To Pretend They Did!" Quote:
I'm not saying you have to like the people who launch these kind of attacks, but we do try and keep it classy here on this discussion forum. See you in a week. |
In the US, people who are extremely poor qualify for health insurence, and people who are extremely rich can afford it. THe entire middle class in general, AKA the average person, like you or me, wouldnt qualify becasue we dont make enouhg to afford it, but we arent poor enough to get it free.
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I'd really appreciate it if you didn't speak for me. I'm middle class, work for a local ISP in the Midwest. My health insurance is just fine, thank you very much.
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Either way, you would likely not qualify for the CHIP program. Not saying LoJ's post wasn't overstepping its bounds, but still. |
This may have to do with where I live and the mindset of folks that live in the secluded mountain areas, but if I need or want something, I work for it. I don't feel that things are owed to me and I deserve something because I haven't succeeded in accomplishing the goals needed to support a family.
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My views are my views, I don't subscribe to either party or politicians in general. I just really have a problem with people who think they're owed something that is within their reach to achieve on their own. EDIT: I agree with Raerlynn, I work for a private company and I like my health care just fine. I'm strictly working class, I make right around 30-35k a year and have no college degree. Excuses are excuses, get a job and deal with sacrifices. |
If their insurance costs $1,200 a month, that's $14,400 a year. You grossly underestimate how much one kid costs, much less six if you think that's anything like an affordable expense.
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I'm saying that those costs are defrayed by seeking employment that provides part or whole health coverage. Even food service folks at hospitals get full coverage, its free (for the employee) at the places around here.
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