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Mental-Rectangle 03-10-2004 06:55 PM

China's Population Control Ethics
 
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40m bachelors and no women ... the birth of a new problem for China

Justin McCurry and Rebecca Allison
Tuesday March 9, 2004
The Guardian

China, the most populous nation on Earth, could find itself dealing with the combined frustrations of as many as 40 million single men by 2020 because its one-child policy is creating a shortage of female babies.
In an unusually frank speech on China's looming demographic crisis, Li Weixiong, who advises the country's political consultative conference on population issues, said a cultural preference for boys was creating an artificial disparity between the number of boys and girls that represents "a serious threat to building a well-off society".

Mr Li said the dearth of women would lead to a dramatic rise in prostitution and the trafficking of women. "This is by no means a sensational prediction," he said.

The search for love is leading traditionally staid Chinese men down unfamiliar paths. There are reports of men placing ads in major newspapers begging women to respond. If the ads are anything to go by - with some ads emphasising the possession of a good bathroom - the way to a modern Chinese woman's heart is a spacious apartment and a decent salary.

Wealthier men are reportedly taking their search beyond China's borders, a risky tactic given that many Chinese households have been less than welcoming to foreign brides.

Unmarried men with less money often have no choice but to turn to illegal brokers, who dupe rural women into moving to the city with bogus job offers.

The widespread introduction of ultrasound testing has enabled a much larger number of Chinese couples to choose to abort female foetuses in the hope that the next pregnancy will produce a son.

Mr Li said the gender ratio had stayed relatively normal up until 1982 - two years after the Chinese authorities imposed the one-child rule - at 100 girls born for every 108 boys. But by 2000, the ratio had shifted significantly to about 117 boys to 100 girls.

The disparity is even bigger in rural areas, where the boy-to-girl imbalance is estimated to be as high as 130 to 100.

Abortions are not the only cause of the imbalance. There is alarming evidence that the intense pressure on couples to make sure their only child is a boy has prompted a resurgence of female infanticide, despite official attempts to stamp out the centuries-old practice.

Rural families are said to be particularly tempted to kill female offspring, such is the pressure to produce a child capable of coping with the physical demands of farming and prevent cash-strapped farming households from being plunged even deeper into poverty.

In some cases, according to reports, other girls are hidden from the authorities, or die at a young age through neglect.

Even in urban areas, boys are generally preferred because they are regarded as more able than girls to provide for their families, care for elderly relatives and continue the family line.

The government, stung by accusations from child welfare groups that it is turning a blind eye to the practice of girl-killing, has allowed some provinces to grant couples permission to have more than one child provided they pay a fine to register each extra birth.

In some villages, local officials have placed dozens of posters bearing the message: "Daughters are as good as sons!"

Despite growing evidence of the enormous social cost of their one-child policy, officials in Beijing insist there are no plans to relax the measure, which they regard as the most important weapon in China's battle to keep its population below 1.6 billion until 2050.

Statistically, the policy has had some success. The communist authorities say it has prevented well over 300 million births since it was introduced in 1980 and is fulfilling its initial aim of ensuring that China can combat rural poverty and improve standards of living across the board.

According to the UN, China's population stood at 1.3 billion in 2003 but independent estimates believe couples with extra children are hiding them from census authorities, meaning the actual figure could be as high as 1.5 billion.

As the country's economy continues to grow and transform at an unprecedented rate, pressure to relax the policy looks likely to intensify if Mr Li's worst-case scenario of social unrest, exploitation of women and crime turns out to be correct.

"Such serious gender disproportion poses a major threat to the healthy, harmonious and sustainable growth of the nation's population and would trigger such crimes and social problems as abduction of women and prostitution," he said.

His claims are supported by official figures showing that police freed more than 42,000 kidnapped women and children in 2001 and 2002. Many of the victims are believed to have been sold into marriage or prostitution.

Elisabeth Croll, professor of Chinese anthropology at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, said she welcomed Mr Li's warning as it would remind China's leaders of the magnitude of the problem they face.

"It is not a new trend," she said. "Demographers in China as well as foreign analysts have been expressing concern for some years. In the last census it was quite clear that this was an upward trend and it is forecast that there will be a shortage of potential marriage mates which will lead to some social instability."

Several years ago the government prohibited doctors from telling couples the sex of their child, but the measure seems to have had little effect. Mr Li called for a ban on mid-term abortions, except in cases with health concerns.

China's experience could prove a lesson to other countries in the region whose populations are also being skewed by gender imbalance.

Prof Croll said: "It is an Asia-wide problem affecting many countries including Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam and India. It is something that is increasing with development instead of decreasing."

The professor, who wrote about the issue in her recent book Endangered Daughters: Discrimination and Development in Asia, said it was a mistake to blame girl infanticide in China only on a resurgence of "old ideas".

For many families, she said, the preference for a son makes simple economic sense as they are less likely to leave the family home after marrying and, as higher earners than women, are more able to provide for the extended family.

Prof Croll said more families in China's rapidly expanding cities were favouring sons, partly because a decline in pensions over the past decade had made older people less secure and more reliant on their children.

If the authorities are reluctant to lift the birth limit, possible long-term solutions to the looming dearth of eligible women may be even more unpalatable. They include altering the traditional marital balance of power and bringing women's pay more into line with that of men, enabling them to better support their families.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/stor...165129,00.html

Now, with India becoming the most populous country, and having far more cases of son-preferance for offspring, they're going to have far worse problems with this after a couple decades.

Although the US is third in population, our culture tends to support a 2-kid, 1-of-each deal in families, and also much of our population is carried by the baby-boomer generation, which is gradually thinning. So we have nary to worry I'd say. But what could these less industrially savvy countries do?

Psycho Mantis 03-10-2004 07:07 PM

Seriously, anyone who would kill their child simply because they were female, should be dragged out into the street and shot. Its just unthinkable...(Summary execution is China's style. after all)

Maybe set up some sort of program where unwanted children could be sent to orphanges here, or in other countries, and they can return eventually if they want?

I dont know, its pretty tough to change a culture.

FunnyLooking 03-10-2004 07:25 PM

US is third in population? I thought that was Indonesia or something.

And this isn't exactly the first time males have been uneven with females in China. Personally, I don't understand it. Men are ugly and idiotic, that's why I prefer women.

Psycho Mantis 03-10-2004 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FunnyLooking
Men are ugly and idiotic, that's why I prefer women.

A womans body is like a work of art. A mans body is like a pile of construction equipment.

Dont ruin art, China!

Trev-MUN Hates AOL 03-10-2004 07:46 PM

Heh... looks like I was right. In general more men are born than women and there are more men on the planet than women.

China just shot itself in the foot.

One way this problem could be solved would be through planned genders, but I don't know. I haven't heard much about it in years, much less on whether or not it's been rendered illegal by Western countries (or if it's become a big moral/ethical taboo). But, it would solve China's problems to grab the gender production by the horns and steer it in a direction more favorable to them.

Mashirosen 03-10-2004 08:05 PM

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If the authorities are reluctant to lift the birth limit, possible long-term solutions to the looming dearth of eligible women may be even more unpalatable. They include altering the traditional marital balance of power and bringing women's pay more into line with that of men, enabling them to better support their families.
Oh, god for-fucking-bid.

Mental-Rectangle 03-10-2004 08:18 PM

I figure the problem will eventually fix itself: the problems from a surplus ratio of one sex will prompt the gov't to offer benefits for couples with female offspring. The lack of females to pair up with will cause males to start offering dowries in competition for breeding resources, causing families to aim for female offspring to reap the financial benefits. Unfortunately, there'll be a generation gap between both of these events, so we'll wind up with too many males one time, too many females another time, then it could hopefully even out after that with enough modernization to eliminate sexual preferance in families.

Unless, of course, 80 million couples are willing to triple-up, or the excess males all wind up being gay, they're going to have a shitload of economic and social problems in this generation. Probably a lot of emigration too.

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A womans body is like a work of art. A mans body is like a pile of construction equipment.
Well... I wouldn't go that far. We're just less efficient with where we store fat. Let's not turn this thread into a Y-bash.

Illuminatus 03-10-2004 08:59 PM

I hate men.

Oh wait, we weren't going to that. And I'm a man. Shit.

Anyway, China is screwed, no matter what. If they keep up their population control, the rest of the world will keep crying "Injustice!" and if they DON'T keep up their pop control schemes they'll burst at the seams.

Glad I don't live there.

Psycho Mantis 03-10-2004 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mental-Rectangle

Well... I wouldn't go that far. We're just less efficient with where we store fat. Let's not turn this thread into a Y-bash.

Not a bash. Just saying the female body is more elegant, while the male body seems to be built primarily to lift stuff or bash things. Or lift things to bash other things.

FunnyLooking 03-10-2004 09:12 PM

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Heh... looks like I was right. In general more men are born than women and there are more men on the planet than women.
Uh... what? Females are the majority in any non-gender-forced situation. Not by much, but females are even often called the 'forgotten majority'. Plus, it makes sense in nature, seeing how you could have one man having many women (not that that's necessarily good for society or anythin').

And I'm totally with Mantis on the gender thing. And of course, when I say 'all men are ugly and idiotic', that's obviously meaning all men except me. And Narcissus. He was hot.


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