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Trev-MUN Hates AOL 03-11-2004 08:11 AM

Terrorist Act Kills 170 In Spain
 
Someone needs a good ass whuppin'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AP News File
Blasts Strike Madrid; 170 Dead
Basque Separatist Group ETA Suspected, but Party Leader Denies Responsibility
by MAR ROMAN, AP

MADRID, Spain (March 11) - Powerful explosions rocked three Madrid train stations Thursday just days before Spain's general elections, killing more than 170 rush-hour commuters and wounding more than 500 in what officials called the deadliest attack ever by the Basque separatist group ETA.

Rush Hour Shattered

"'This is a massacre,'' government spokesman Eduardo Zaplana said.

Two bombs exploded around 7:30 a.m. local time in a commuter train arriving at Atocha station, a bustling hub for subway and longer-distance trains in Spain's capital. Single blasts also rocked trains or platforms at two stations on a commuter line leading to Atocha.

''If anyone was in doubt, this shows the true nature of ETA, a Nazi organization which tortures and murders people,'' said Gaspar Llamazares, leader of the United Left party.

Aftermath of the Bombing

Other Spanish officials and media also blamed ETA. But Arnold Otegi, leader of Batasuna, an outlawed Basque party linked to the armed separatist group, denied it was behind the blasts and suggested ''Arab resistance'' elements were responsible.

Arnold Otegi told Radio Popular in San Sebastian that ETA always phones in warnings before it attacks. The interior minister said there was no warning before Thursday's attack.

''The modus operandi, the high number of victims and the way it was carried out make me think, and I have a hypothesis in mind, that yes it may have been an operative cell from the Arab resistance,'' Otegi said. Otegi noted that Spain's government backed the Iraq war.

Until the latest attack, ETA had been blamed for more than 800 deaths in its decades-old campaign to carve an independent Basque homeland out of territory straddling northern Spain and southwest France.

At Atocha station, people in tears streamed away from the station as rescue workers carried bodies covered in sheets of gold fabric. People with bloodied faces sat on curbs, using cellphones to tell loved ones they were alive. Hospitals appealed for blood donations. Buses had to be pressed into service as ambulances.

The attacks traumatized Spain on the eve of Sunday's general election.

The campaign was largely dominated by separatist tensions in regions like the Basque country, with both the ruling conservative Popular Party and the opposition Socialists ruling out talks with ETA.

But the Socialists came in for withering criticism because a politician linked to the Socialist-run government in the Catalonia region, which also has separatist sentiment, admitted meeting with ETA members in France in January. The Socialists were lambasted as allegedly undermining Spain's fight against ETA.

Rescue workers were overwhelmed, said Enrique Sanchez, an ambulance driver who went to Santa Eugenia station, about six miles southeast of Atocha station.

''There was one carriage totally blown apart. People were scattered all over the platforms. I saw legs and arms. I won't forget this ever. I've seen horror.''

Shards of twisted metal were scattered by rails in the Atocha station at the spot where an explosion severed a train in two.

''I saw many things explode in the air, I don't know, it was horrible,'' said Juani Fernandez, 50, a civil servant who was on the platform waiting to go to work.

''People started to scream and run, some bumping into each other and as we ran there was another explosion. I saw people with blood pouring from them, people on the ground,'' Fernandez said.

At least 131 people were killed and more than 400 were injured, said Pedro Calvo, the Madrid regional government's security affairs chief.

The toll would make Thursday the deadliest day ever in decades of attacks by ETA. Until now, the highest death toll was 21 killed in a supermarket blast in Barcelona in 1987.

Spanish officials had said ETA was against the ropes following the arrest last year of more than 150 members or collaborators in Spain and France, including the leaders of ETA's commando network. Last year ETA killed three people, compared to 23 in 2000 and 15 in 2001.

No arrests were reported Thursday.

''Those responsible for this tragedy will be arrested and they will pay very dearly for it,'' Acebes said at Atocha.

The government convened anti-ETA rallies nationwide for Friday evening and announced three days of mourning.

''What a horror,'' said the Basque regional president, Juan Jose Ibarretxe, who insisted ETA does not represent the Basque people. ''When ETA attacks, the Basque heart breaks into a thousand pieces,'' he said in the Basque capital Vitoria.

''This is one of those days that you don't want to live through,'' said opposition Socialist party spokesman Jesus Caldera. ''ETA must be defeated,'' referring to the group as ''those terrorists, those animals.''

In London, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw called the attacks terrorist atrocities and a ''disgusting assault on the very principle of European democracy.''

Straw said that Britain stood ''shoulder to shoulder'' with Spain and was ready to send any kind of material help needed.

Elsewhere, European Parliament President Pat Cox said the bomb attacks amounted to ''a declaration of war on democracy.''

''No more bombs, no more dead,'' Cox said in Spanish before a hushed legislature in Strasbourg, France. ''It is an outrageous, unjustified and unjustifiable attack on the Spanish people and Spanish democracy.''

Police had been on high alert for Basque separatist violence ahead of general elections Sunday, in which regional tensions and how to fight ETA have been key themes. Mariano Rajoy, the candidate for prime minister of the ruling conservative Popular Party, said he was calling off the rest of his campaign.

On Feb. 29, police intercepted a Madrid-bound van packed with more than 1,100 pounds of explosives, and blamed ETA. On Christmas Eve, police thwarted an attempted bombing at Chamartin, another Madrid rail station, and arrested two suspected ETA members.

Does anyone know if the U.S government even offered assistance with catching whoever's behind this? Or even acknowledgement of what's going on?

DarthZeth 03-11-2004 10:23 AM

Quote:

"The United States stands resolutely with Spain in the fight against terrorism in all its forms and against the particular threat that Spain faces from the evil of ETA terrorism," Powell said.

Addendum: i hear a radio report in the car a few minuets ago that said that this doesnt really look like an ETA attack. Its more Al Qaeda's style.

Viper Daimao 03-11-2004 10:42 AM

here's a blogger doing some coverage of it

police said they are keeping an open mind. One official on BBC said that the explosives were the same type as exposives found in a van driven by two ETA members heading to madrid who were stopped and arrested.

Patricoo 03-11-2004 03:52 PM

Remember the good ol' days with Ninjas and Assasins? No suicide bombings. Where is the honor or coolness!

*400 posts*

Bob The Mercenary 03-13-2004 09:57 PM

I just read in the New York Post that this attack happened exactly 911 days after 9/11. I don't know if it's coincidence or not, but I think Al Qaeda's involved.

Martyr 03-14-2004 01:12 AM

Well...
I'd love for Al Queda to start attacking other countries and then watch as the world begins to fanatically back Bush in the war against terror.

Unfortunately, everybody's probably going to find some way to blame Americans for this crap and everything will renew itself in an impossibly complicated maze of crap and/or monkey brains.

The world would be a much safer place if everybody would just agree to not hate Americans and Israelis.
But that ain't ever happening. It hasn't even happened in the USA.

Trev-MUN Hates AOL 03-14-2004 01:44 AM

Funny thing, before this happened in Spain I saw a poll that was held by an international polling group, which polled Europeans from a host of countries on whether or not they think the actions in Afghanistan or Iraq have made the world safer - they said no, that they were more afraid.

I guess it won't be long before the anti-U.S demonstrations start over the Spanish bombing. Egh.

Though Martyr, I wouldn't pray for people to suffer and die... People like that disgust me. I get real sick of those people who say "Don't you think Americans deserved 9/11?" with a grin. They need to be kicked in the face... Or hit very hard with a pillow, whichever is more acceptable.

Martyr 03-14-2004 09:26 AM

No. I don't pray for people to die. That's not at all what I want.
But I don't see how terrorist attacks will be stopping any time soon, and, if people must die, I hope that they'll turn to us instead of on us. That's what I pray for.

But, yeah, it's just another way to get people to hate the US.

Solid_Snake 03-14-2004 09:27 AM

I think that is one of the terrorist's ideas, to make bush look bad. If they kill all those people because of the wars in the Middle East, they obviously will protest the war (which I veiw as a sign of weakness to succumb to the sugestions of terrorists). They make Bush look bad in America by knocking off one or two of our boys each day. They know the reaction because it is so predictable in America:
Republicans support the war, along with more patriotic people.
Weak, cowardly, unpatriotic people, and Democrats (I'm not saying Democrats are cowardly, always wanting to have peace as long as possible is part of their agenda) will protest the war and try to slap the president in his face. This would not have happened at an eariler time in history where people were more patriotic and supportive. People seem to be far less patriotic today, and seem not as farsighted as they used to. What would have happened when our enemies developed nuclear weapons, what would have happend?

Trev-MUN Hates AOL 03-14-2004 10:49 AM

That's kind of a perilous position to adopt there; there's patriotic people on both sides of the war argument. To say someone is unpatriotic because of not supporting the war is a bit off to me.

As far as your final statement, I do think the American people as a whole have become demoralized over politics (so to speak), hence all the voter apathy.

And in reply to Martyr and Solid Snake's comment about the terrorist's goal, you're right:

Quote:

"We declare our responsibility for what happened in Madrid,'' said the man on the video, according to a government translation of the statement delivered in Arabic. "It is a response to your collaboration with the criminals Bush and his allies.''

The man noted that the bombings came exactly 2 1/2 years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States.
The attack worked. Lots of Spaniards feel that Aznar provoked the terrorist response due to supporting the war in Iraq. Even though Anzar isn't running again I think it's going to sway the election to a group that's more anti-American, at the worst.


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