Marrage/sex with robots by 2050?
 

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Well...I'm speechless. Could this be a new plan to take over humanity?

Mwahahaha!

That guy has to have a good evil laugh, or be the biggest freak there is... Using robotic children sex slaves?! WTF.

I used to think how fucked up it is that of all the fictionalized visions of the future the ones that seem to be coming true are the horribly dystopian ones.

Now I'm going to have to start thinking how fucked up it is that of all the fictionalized versions of the future the ones that seem to be coming true are the horribly dystopian ones and Chobits.

Fucking Chobits.

With this and the zombie thing in the other thread I can't help but feel that humanity would have been better off if we blew ourselves up back in the cold war.

This...

Um...

.....Wow. The guy in the article... He sounds like he's been wanting this to happen his entire life.

I'm interested to see how this will progress. Just so long as they don't start trying to make robots capable of reproduction, though... *Shrug* I guess we'll have to see.

The amount of optimism in this happening is disturbing.

Also, another reason to blame Cosmo for society's ills.

I'm pretty sure robots can build more robots.

On top of everything else you want radioactive mutants running around all over the place?

Jesus then the future just devolves into like, Fist of the North Star. I don't think anyone wants that shit.

Well, we actually have a flying car now. I'd love to find an article about it online, but I don't have time to devote to that at the moment due to homework. It was, however, in the local paper. I'll try to find and post the contents later.


I shudder to think what Rule 34 is going to do with this. :sweatdrop


Edit: @ Fifth: Or Appleseed.

Just make sure we have the "Marilyn Monrobot" video from Futurama, we'll be safe.

I'm not exactly a supporter of the slippery slope marriage theory but I'd kinda draw the line at marrying a robot.

You want to marry an AI? Well that's fine I guess. You'll have to be aware that as soon as you name it, though, it's going to take over everything and probably kill you. Or use you for science. Or start a nuclear war. Or try and end the end a master.

Whatever floats your boat. :D

Haha, that's hillarious.

Mine promised me some moist, delicious cake so I can't imagine there's anything bad going on there, though.

Yeah, I'd go for it. Sounds like you got one of the good ones.

In other news, in 2025 Marriage/Sex with Weighted Companion Cubes will be legalized.

Rule 34 knows no bounds...

Whether this is creepy or just the next step in human rights movements, I think, depends upon how much we advance AI within the next couple of years.

If we manage to make AIs which are indistinguishable from human intellect, complete with emotions and what have you, well then I can totally see this happening and just being a basic progression of humanities struggles with our own outmoded ethical codes--much like interracial or gay marriage.

If, however, we're just doing the 'program it to love you' thing, well that's just kinda fucked up. I mean, it takes something out of emotional involvement with another being if the only reason it loves you is because you told it that it had to love you.

Still, though, pretty awesome sex-toy.

but...isn;t the cake a lie?

Not if you redefine your definition of cake.

you should really read the Ghost in the Shell mangas and think about the progression of artificiality in the near-not-so-distant future.

I think that eventually when artificiality is an everyday facet, the line will be so BLURRED between what is real and artificial that people just really won't care by 2050. Besides, a 'specially programmed' AI will fit the needs of someone as their spouse because humans are just not able to be programmed like that. Besides, building sexroids to save women/men [and children too] from prostitution is not a bad idea - supposing that it feels as real as the real thing and all it is used for IS sex. but that's just me thinking out loud.

But in Massacheusetts?! Meh...maybe pay-per-fuck will be legal in the future if it's with a sexroid.

Yes my dream of having sex with C3PO is almost fulfilled! I can't wait to make that stud a REAL android!

Saving them from prostitution or putting them out of work, eh? eh?!

I speak for those whom object to prostitution.

PERSONALLY, I think prostitution is a living and is a respectable profession - particularly the level of 'professionalism' it has in Japan's underworlds...

All this means is that in five years I'll be able to get laid.

I'd be more ready to get a non-sex model more for companionship. And if there were any need to do some tweaking, well, I'm going into programming, so given a USB port or something, plus consent, I'd be able to make any modifications needed. Because I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to let them modify themselves without a DAMN good failsafe, which would pretty much defeat the point of emotions anyway. They might, however, be allowed to block incoming signals they feel might be harmful, or get the right to review the data before implementation for their own safety. And wireless would be a bad idea.


@ Zilla: I agree that would be a problem. Prostitution is the oldest profession for a reason, and people who end up doing it generally have no other choice.

It really makes me wonder about what the scientists are really trying to cook up with the robots they're designing.

Uh, dude, scientists are nerds. Do I need to explain this more or not? :rolleyes:

Are you implying nerds don't get any? Because I know that that is wrong.

If gays can't marry why in the hell would robots ever get to marry anytime soon?

Now sex, on the other hand...people are already doing that with extremely Human looking dolls that have moving eyes/etc...

I'm going to be way too old for this. Are there going to be robots that have sex with the robots for you?

God forbid they make the robots for reproduction.

Goddamned wannabe human robots with their fancy baby-making crockpots.

Well, would it count if you got made into a robot? :p

Adrian Barbo-bot with chainsaw hands! Zzzzzzzzzzz!!!

Sparkimus PRIME.

Yes, I am Pro Robots!
 

Sounds like you're applying and respecting basic human rights to the robot there. I'm glad someone else actually considers this perspective! 'Cause the second robots are intelligent enough to reason for themselves as we do, they're gonna do exactly what minority groups do best - speak out about their lack of rights, and if necessary cause some public disturbances to bring attention to it.

All of our laws will need to be redefined (again!) to not just include all self-sentient creatures but also self-sentient constructs. Which is fine by me. I'm looking forward to following the political and societal outcomes when this becomes a hot issue. It'll be a great just to watch how it unfolds.

As for all the worries about robots reproducing - what's the problem?? If they're really gonna be built to think like us, the program design will probably mimic the design of our brains. Meaning they'll probably have to learn from scratch, intuitively just like us as well. So even if they built a giant robot army, they'd still have to be 'raised', taught, and trained in combat before the army would actually become active. Never mind the time actually spent building them to start with. By comparison, we already have several active armies.

Giant missile launchers and other deadly robot weaponry? Not an issue - there's nothing stopping us from using those too. Seriously, if we're so afraid of them making war, killing, taking over the rights of other species... say, that sounds a lot like what WE do! We usually do it with reasons. Not necessarily good reasons, but the things we do certainly don't just happen out of the blue.

Assuming the robots have to learn like we do (as above), there will be a stage where moral development must occur, otherwise they will not mesh with human society. If they can do that, they won't be too likely to "kill all humans". Why? Our society is increasingly teaching values of tolerance. Most robots brought up in such an environment will not be painting our race with such a broad brush, and will probably try to find a more socially acceptable means of getting their message out.

Humans and sentient robots? Sure there's a difference. One's a machine. That's like, it.

Actually I consider us machines as well; just that we need a constant energy supply because we're made out of materials that quickly decompose if left without. If we ever go offline, the fine balance that makes up our system is rapidly lost, and we are unable to restore the balance and come back online. We call it death! Of course the organic approach to our design is what allows us to be so complicated, since it works on a smaller scale than wires.

Khael! your theory about the blank slate is slightly wrong because they can easily copy data.

I mean, it'd be like the matrix where they learn martial arts and how to pilot helicopters by downloading the information.

AI would run on code. code runs on data. Data transfers like crazy fast.

Why is that a hard concept?

Okay, just going to throw in my beginning programmer's two cents. Data is easily manipulated. Robots could easily be "born" with a head start on humans because of basic programming. Most likely basic things like speech and body function, but possibly also more complex things like a predefined personality or moral code. Now, on a smaller level, just to start, this may not be a bad idea. The first robots will almost certainly need some of these to begin the learning process. So, say a starting package includes:

- speech
- motor skills/strength limitations
- a basic awareness of human mortality
- a moral code that discourages, but does not necessarily prevent, violence
- emotional functioning geared toward good socialization


These will all help them learn, while hopefully keeping them and those around them safe in the meantime. As they gain more experience, they will be able to "unlock" these settings and choose to modify them or possibly turn them off and let higher processing handle it. Having these basic settings also allows them to bypass what one would consider age. They will not need to crawl first, nor will they need to learn everything from the ground up. This makes for the possibility of perfectly functional adult robots who will start out a bit two-dimensional, but still fit the expectations others will form based on appearance, and will allow them to build from there into more complex individuals.



As for the social aspect of things, Khael, I think people are people. I don't care if they're humans, robots, hominid animals, puddles of goo, or Bert McFubb, that guy in accounting with the digestive disorder.*

People deserve rights, and deserve to be treated rightly.



*(Sorry, I had to. If you don't get the reference, you haven't played Superhero League of Hoboken.)

But the question is, is robots people?

I think it depends on just how sentient and self aware they are. We have "Artificial intelligences" already, but none that are aware of their own existance or anything like that. They still are only capable of responding to outside stimulus, not generating their own.

Once an AI is capable of original thought, I think it has earned its freedom.

Probably not hang out with robots. Least at this point. :sweatdrop

*BLINKS*

Sorry, I just had an image of a pimp keeping a robot prostitute in line. Then having to go to the doctor for a broke hand.

Gotta keep the pimp hand strong ya know.

Transformer-like robots would be entirely possible. They'd require constant maintenance and very durable materials, but the technology is already there in smaller units. I think the best bet would be to start with something similar to the Tesla cars, as they require few moving parts and hold a large charge. If it proves too costly to maintain that kind of electrical charge, there's always nuclear power. They're made of metal anyway, so proper shielding couldn't be that hard, provided it's somewhere not likely to get damaged in a crash or has enough added armor for it to be safe in one. The best part is that it could be handled by other robots, negating the worry about humans getting radiation poisoning when it comes to refueling.

Sadly, I don't see car makers doing robots anytime soon, as cars in America are designed for planned obsolescence. I also see them suing the crap out of anyone who tries to muscle in on the market to do so under unfair competition laws.

Clearly, transformers from the animation? Not so completely impossible. From the live-action movie? No. Just no.

Back to the robot subject... I believe we're still quite a few years to go before all that level of AI. Oh sure, technology makes progress in a daily basis, but a robot that thinks for itself is complicated. There's also another thing. AI, at least so far, is complete logic thought. Human thought isn't only logic, far from it, actually. I am aware off the level of computers today, but robot thought is FAR. And, not to say anything but, about the flying car? Germany was trying out "flying machines" ( think of a segway that uses a big fan to fly instead of moving around with wheels ) to use during WW2 almost a century ago, but they gave up because cars were better.

It's almost a decade into the new millenium, where's my flying car?!

You gotta trade your left foot first.

What do I look like, some minimum wage slacker?

I was promised flying cars by now by the world, and they're not here.

I don't even have a robot maid. What did they promise? Robot maids. What did we get? A little self propelled vacuum that bounces around your apartment aimlessly and steals all your pewter figurines.

That bastard vacuum ate all my cheese.

I thought that was assumed. :sweatdrop


Edit: They have a flying car. I really need to find the article clipping and quote it. It has six turbines and flies roughly ten feet above the ground. It also costs more than the GNP of Ecuador.

They also have a robot maid. "She" comes with a red '80s business suit and removable face. The model I saw had permed brunette hair down to the small of its back. Also more expensive than anyone who's not filthy rich can afford.

But is it sassy?

Very. ;)

I'm not so sure that they're that great of an idea.

Too bad fo' you then!!