Black Mage's contract
 

since he died... is it still legally binding?

No, he is not legally binded while he is dead, but once he gets revived(which he undoubtably will be) the contract kickstarts, and BM is once again at the mercy of Thief.

wait but unless stated in a will everything legaly Binding goes to kin or state.

If he dies, the contract is canceled. The contract doesnt say anything about him having to follow the Contract if he is Revived

heh, unless it specifically states on theif contract that if BM dies and is russurected in a near-impossible manner he would be back in contract with him. :D

But it doesn't. Thief would have said it once they read "Untill death"

Even if the contract is nulified by Black Mage's "death" (he might only be in a coma, after all/near death), the topic might not be immediately raised. Black Mage himself isn't that legally minded, so I doubt he'd think of it, at least not immediately. Plus, Thief won't give him a chance to think that way.

Heck, I wouldn't put it past Thief to have BM sign a slightly more merciful contract, under the pretense of being nice to BM, while in actuality, getting BM back under contract.

Sky Warrior Bob

Seems to me that Thief would eternally bind the other LW's souls to him with the contract, even if he wasn't thinking of something like this at the time.

I believe the contract goes like this: "The party of the fifth part, hitherheretoforward hence refered to as the 'light warriors' shall do whatsoever the party of the first part, Thief, commands, under any and all circumstances, real or imaginary, throughout the universe and all possible and impossible variations thereof for all perpetuity."

If :bmage: is binded under all circumstances for all eternity, then how is it that the contract is no longer binding once he dies?

Have you forgotten about the "Yes it does/ No it doesn't" always-prove-them-wrong clause? The contract will stand so that the story will continue. So there.

Yes, no matter what Thief will find away. Because he is Thief.

Speaking as someone that has taken several Business Law courses at my University I'd like to think I'm somewhat qualified to answer this question.

It would entirely depend on the language of the contract, of course, but under most circumstances if one party of the contract dies that particular portion of the contract immediatly becomes void. It would really depend on if each character is considered to be a differnent party in the terms of the contract(Thief, RM, BM, Fighter) or if there are two parties(Thief, and then the rest work for him).
If there are only two parties, BM's death would significantly change the terms of the contract to the extent that it'd have to be restructered or voided. If each party is seperate, it's likely the contract would remain intact, but the portion regarding BM's obligations would be nulled. When he revives, BM would no longer be obligated to Thief to do whatever the contract reads. Unless in the contract it specifically mentions what should occur if a person in the contract is considered to be legally dead and then returns to life. Which I'm guessing Thief is smart enough to do.

I think there are five parties-Fighter, Thief, BM, RM, and the party as a whole, because Thief refers to himself as the party of the fifth part

Knowing Thief, master of obfuscation and lies, he included in the contract a clause stating that the contract retains all...stuff... even in case of death, upon which time Thief gains control of their souls.

either that or theif, just had super super super super x infinty FINE PRINT

yeah, he's probably written in fine print on the bottom:

In-case of death and ressurection or rebirth, the contract remains valid. :D

Maybe BM will destroy it with a Fire Spell

Now that i think about it since this is Final Fantasy Thief would have remembered the death clause and that people can be revived. Thus he would prevent such a loop-hole from forming

I think this is a question brian would have to answer, cuz only he knows the teenie weenie details of the contract.

Or just maybe he makes bits up as and when they are convenient :rolleyes: .

sadly I agree. Lets face it he just puts in whatever he like to keep them valid. I bet he will ignore the death thing completely

He may, but even if he does, some where in the comic Thief mentions many many copies so either way BM and the rest are pretty much helpless

Maybe BM will destroy Thief with a Fire Spell

That could definitely do it, besides the fact that white mage would happen to be there conviniently to heal him back to health

I remember that, but I cannot for the life of me find the episode in which it appears. If I ever do find it, I'll edit this post to link to it.

Of course, the main point is, this clause is very explicit in terms of "you can't get out of this." At all. Not only is it not possible, but you can't get out of it impossibly either.

As per the "all purpose prove them wrong cluase" 84-b (epi 311) yes he is still under thiefs contract. For people who argue that hes not under his contral any more plz refer to article 84-A: no he is'nt

ROFL I forgot about that clause

WHo knows what thief will make up next when someone finds a loophole to that.

Lol i saw this thread and remembered about that. Tell you one thing finding the episoad it was in was a pain in the butt.

what episode number was it?

Maybe if BM's new form is in truth an incarnation and not really BM then the contract is void.

BM signed it if this new creature is no longer considered BM but some one new, lets call him Dark Sorcerer, then he is not affected by what BM's contracts since he isn't really BM anymore

Bm would only be affected bey thiefs contract if bm chose to be affected by it.

:thief: You realize you're still under my contract.
:bmage: No i'm not.
*the contaract bursts into flames.*
:thief: LAW NINJAS! SUE!
*The law ninjas are seen running around on fire. The law ninja dojo is also seen burning in the background.*
Ok... I release you from your contract.

i bet somehow someway through Thief's own brand of magic (his contracts) that BM is obligated to turn over rulership of hell to Thief :P

Ohhhh, that just wouldn't be fair! But he is :thief: Theif :thief: , so it has to be in there *sigh* :( ......

NO!!!!!! How dare you speak such an idea Rodimus!

BM deserves to be ruler of hell and Thief can't take that away, can he?? It just couldn't happen like that. *tears well up*

lol, Thief can do just about anything with a pen and scroll. Forget RM, just give HIM six hours and he can master time itself. :thief:

But.. but... I'm the master of time and space! No way I'm handing that over to thief!

well.. my question got answered in the new comic... the contract ceases to apply :P WOOHOO! Thanks brian

Yeah, Thief's probably too dejected about losing BM's contract status to realize that with BM re-lived, he (Thief) can screw BM over again. I hope this is the case. I wanna see BM unrestricted. Burn France to the Ground, BM!!!





No offense to any Frenchmen, it's just that BM totally ROCKS!!!

Actualy now that bm's in his body again theif has power over him again since bm cant MASSIVLY SLAGHTER HIM (that badly) anymore.

I'd think the contract no longer binds him. He DID make it so that he is no longer affected by mortal laws. He never said that ended with his life. Erego, he's out of the contract, unless he signs a new one.

With BM's luck, there will be a new one soon.

:bmage: Dani