Final Fantasy 8 - plot & theory disscussion *SPOILERS, AHOY!*
 

Note: Not a FF comparison thread. I didn't post this to say "FF8 roxorz mah boxorz! it 0\/\/nz j00!" That stuff's for the stickied thread in this forum...

I wanted to see what any one of you who have beaten FF8, regardless of whether you liked it or not, had to say about what is commonly referrd to as the "R=U theory".

*This is where spoilers come in, and they are HEAVY. So If you plan on playing FF8, have not done so in full previously, and DON'T want any of it to be ruined, leave now.*


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Basically, this theory dictates that Ultemecia is the future Rinoa Heartily, as Rinoa IS by the end of the game a sorceress possessing in fact, Ultemecia's own power. (Edea inherits it during a scene in the final FMV, when Ultemecia had sent herself to a time when edea was still 'matron', and later in time, Edea's powers, ALL of them, are transferred to Rinoa)

I ascribe to this theory myself, becuase it makes the entire game so much more interesting when viewed from that perspective. That, and it makes a lot of stuff in the game make sense...

There are many other evidence's of this theory, such as the Griever GF, and other game text which seem to heavily imply Rinoa's future... But I will leave it at that for now. Any comments? And feel free to bring up other storyline points of interest if this sunject doesn't paticularly interest you...

Edit: Just wanted to note also, that I mainly bring up this topic becuase it pertains largly to the FFVIII fanfiction I am writing... It's actually an attempt at novelizing the game, so as you can imagine, there are quite a few details to fill, and things to make... better than they are in the game.

It's like that way in almost every FF where the female lead is supposta become/is as good as/or must compare to someone

Queen Braine, Yuna's father...damn I lost names. FF6 has those damn espers. The female is a freak in some way or another so I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't buy into that theory, simply because I don't see any evidence for it. Rinoa got those powers, check. It just seems to me to be an arm-dislocating stretch to say that therefore she started talking funny, got a Cirque du Soleil makeup and wardrobe job, and turned evil. Not to mention that Ultimecia didn't seem to know the Good Guys when she met them, and I'd think that Rinoa would keep in mind the characteristics of the people who she knew were going to try to defeat her. It makes much more sense to me that that was a different sorceress. There is more than one sorceress in space and time, after all.

However, I have so many problems with the plot of that game that if it did turn out to be the case, I wouldn't be surprised. I'd just shrug and roll my eyes - again.

Rinoa has to pass the curse onto someone right? Well eventually the same curse could get passed on to Ultimecia, but there is no evidence that Ultimecia == Rinoa.

And besides, your creating an awefully ugly paradox with your theory.

Why bother
 

Why even bother with thinking about ff 8. It was the worst of them all. Even four beat it. Really it is the worst ff. It makes me sick to think you people can even look at it without wanting to kill yourselfs.

FF8 was a perfictly good FF with a story line that had pointless areas and a junction system that sucked. Good magic system though.

However, FF8 is ranked 3rd to last. FFX-2 sucked the most.

FF6 10 out of 10
FF7 10 out of 10
FF9 9 out of 10
FF5 8 out of 10
FF1 7 out of 10
FF2 7 out of 10
FF8 6 out of 10
FF10 6 out of 10
FFX-2 2 out of 10

Thats how I rate them. Best to worst.

It still sucked. It is nothing compared to 7!!!! blargggggg

not my theory
 

Accent doesn't mean a whole lot.
Edea didn't wear evil makeup until she was evil either, and makeup is easily removable, and easy to put on eh?

And remember the GFs remove memories after prolonged junctioning? So if she was junctioning griver for a long time... She would forget everything except maybe that she must 'be there... waiting' for someone. If we assume she's crazy, (which, is obvious... I mean, common. Time compression?) then what couldn't her warped mind forget, or twist? Even if she did recognoize them, being abandoned somehow would cuase spite, no? Maybe she wanted to kill them becuase of who they actualy were... not just becuase they were SeeD. So who's to say she didn't know?

Visual aids also add much to this theory. See the final FMV, and there is a BRIEF (and I mean not even noticable by the human eye unless you are watching it in slow-motion) glimpse of Ultemecia mixed in with all the images of Rinoa, for no apparent reason... unlesss....

Dude, the whole idea of ultemecia possessing someone in the past to compress time is a paradox anyway... so why not? She's crazy.

I'm going to go with slackbot. Rinoa was a 'good' person all through out the plot. There was absolutely no hint that she would become evil. Just because she had the powers doesn't mean that she wouldn't have passed them on... and then the next sorceress after her, or the sorceress after that would be Ultimecia.

And as for the junctioning... from the discussion had in the yard of Galbadia Garden, one can easily, and safely, assume that after defeating Edea they would have stopped using GFs. They almost stopped using them right there but decided they needed them to stop Edea and save the Gardens.

FF8 was good, and one of the best RPGs on the PS. I enjoyed playing it. The story was rather good, but the only problem I had with FF8 was the magic system and junctioning. I found that mighty homosexual.

I'd have to say it's the 3rd or 4th best FF ever, in my oppinion.