Well, what do you expect? All three of those characters pilot starfighters in a universe where not one of them has a unique special power of any sort. Granted, Wolf in a Landmaster is pushing it a bit, but Starfox never needed three characters worth of representation in the first place.

Luigi, on the other hand, has slowly been developing unique play characteristics since Super Mario Bros 2 (both the original Japanese one or the Doki Doki Panic clone they released outside of Japan), so by now he's the sort of character that really would be expected to be fairly unique.

Wolf seemed pretty last minute to me, anyway, so I'm not at all surprised.

This is where I really get irritated at Sakurai, where he tosses potential like Isaac and instead rehashes Fox again.

I mean sure it wasn't nearly as bad as I was hoping, but it's still a rehash.

Hey, at least they didn't take the character you played most in Melee, fix all the major problems with said character's moveset, and then remove said character to replace it with a different one that you've never heard of with the fixed moveset.

The end result looks like a totally great game, but I do kinda feel like my home was seized and torn down by the government to make way for a new shopping mall.

If Sakurai really cared for the individuality of all the characters he would know Falco hates the Landmaster.[/rant]

From that, Mewtwo or Roy I'm guessing, but seriously man, they deserved it. I know you're going to go into a casual vs pro rage after this, but come on. They were awful compared to the cast, and Lucario and Ike look supremely kickass.

I wasn't really going to rage so much as I don't really care about the casual versus pro thing, but I have to note that Lucario is nothing more than a Luigified Mewtwo and I don't really care for having a more iconic older character removed in favor of some new generation flavor of the month that all the Japanese kids are into.

Honestly, if they wanted Lucario in that bad, he could have been made a unique character all his own instead of a Mewtwo clone and they could have gotten rid of, say, Jigglypuff if they were so intent on making room.

One inflatable pink ball in the game is enough, in my opinion.

See, now that makes sense. Although I think he had a bigger problem with the idea of the submarine more than anything.

How is Lucario a Mewtwo clone except for his Neutral B and skeleton? From what I've seen he plays way different from his predecessor.

I honestly haven't seen much of a difference except for the fixes in the moveset. He's built the same, his movement physics are pretty similar, and he shares some moves. Looks pretty much like Mewtwo with a new skin to me.

Technically, Falco said "I'll take the sky anyday," during that mission, so yeah it's not just Landmasters, he prefers the Arwing under all circumstances.

God damn we deserve a decent Star Fox game.
Just disagreeing on the terms that Kirby and Jigglypuff are completely different in just about every single way.

Really I don't see the point in removing characters at all when they could be just as easily Luigified, but somehow this game is going for the whole Game of the Century thing so hard that I doubt having a couple of improved knockoffs and the original (Dr. Mario and Mario, Pichu, etc) is really even necessary.

I know we're nitpicking at one of the most outstanding games ever, but these are serious complaints.

Falco's final smash should've been some crazy, backup call that involved a bunch of airwings shooting everything on the battlefield. And then using bombs. Wolf, I have no idea. Isaac would have been a great addition, as would Mallow ( at least I think so, he'd have an interesting moveset with alternative ways to go up instead of jumping ) but alas, we can't have everything, can we?