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bluestarultor 02-06-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Khael!
So he casts stuff via his beliefs.

You tellin' me he's not actually a Red Mage, but rather a Cleric of Megahedron? Chosen domains: destruction and trickery. (Mo' like Cheatery!)

Not really. They say that if you get a stadium of people to concentrate on lighting a match in the center, so long as they actually all really concentrate on lighting that match, it will light. The massive amounts of their belief actually causes reality to bend, altering probability to the point where something that some people might call "impossible" actually happens. Science says there is no such thing as a 0% chance of anything, i.e. literally anything is possible, but many things are astronomically improbable. They've also done studies with random number machines and such and found that people really could have an effect on the outcome, provided there were enough of them and/or their belief was strong enough, as with the Shaolin monks.

The point I'm trying to make here is that RM believes so strongly in some of these mad schemes that he alters probability to the point that he breaks the normal rules even worse than normal magic by casting magic that shouldn't even exist.

Izlude 02-06-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bluestarultor
That particular spell only functioned due to his total lack of regard for the rules of reality, which is what we're seeing again here. He doesn't actually have Ice 9, because it doesn't exist, and it would take more MP than he has, anyway. But by ignoring physics in his elation-induced mania, he was able to bend physics through the sheer force of his belief enough that he accomplished what would otherwise have been impossible. Life 3 has not existed in any FF game I've ever played, possibly excluding 12, since I never got very far in it (but 12 messes with all sorts of stuff). It stands to reason that he may once again be casting a spell that doesn't exist, simply by his belief being so strong as to disregard physics, which is why he was so quick to try to silence the others for correcting him.

I believe Life 3 was first introduced in FF6. In FFTactics it was called "ReRaise". Basically it automatically casts Life after your character dies.

paladinz_dude 02-06-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Izlude
I believe Life 3 was first introduced in FF6. In FFTactics it was called "ReRaise". Basically it automatically casts Life after your character dies.

Yeah, thats the one RM is casting. It shouldn't exist; you know that and I know that, but he doesn't know that.

Zakreon 02-06-2008 05:55 PM

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I suspect that may or may not have been the inspiration for this.
That logic can be used for anything! For example, I suspect that Red Mage may or may not stop burning.

Besides, Red Mage is like a mini-Sarda, hes still learning how to bend reality just by willing it. Hes the wizard who's about to do it. :eek:

Mesden 02-06-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FenrisWolf
Okay guys enough with the conversation about burning babies which is wrong on more levels than I can count and move back to conversation about the actual comic, thanks.

I have surmised that Red Mage is a baby, most likely due to multi-classing.

Raiden 02-06-2008 10:41 PM

He had to sacrifice aging for points in "Turn-About Logistics"

Ghoully 02-06-2008 11:22 PM

If you think about it, all of the Light Warriors have powers of the gods.

Fighter can't be killed, and can block any attack, Red Mage bends reality to his will, thief can dodge anything and pretty much controls the worlds legal system, and blackmage has the potential to learn any spell, not to mention the planet destroying Hadoken. Seriously, nothing stands a chance agaist these guys.

At least they wouldn't, if they weren't constantly trying to screw each other over.

Eldezar 02-07-2008 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Thadius
Gee, like the Light Warriors weren't scarred enough when Black Mage lost his clothes, you have to go and suggest that RM follow suit! You fool! You will unleash naked armageddon upon us all!

Don't forget Fighter.

And I thought there was a time that RM lost his clothes, though I am most likely confusing that with a Deborah scenario. Still, maybe it happened, or is yet to happen.


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