It was real, he says he did it because it was sick and going to die.

I don't care if it was sick or not, it's just a stupid puppy.

There are plenty of more humane ways to kill a dog, other than throwing it off a cliff. Am I going to get worked up over one death of a dog and get on a soap box and preach? No. I only think this is a wake up call for a few people. Sad that they ignore the thousands of Iraqis dying and American soldiers dying yet see a puppies death as tragic. All I see it as is letting those who ignore the death of a human, perhaps, notice their irony.
One last thing, I must really agree with this quote though: "One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic." It rings so true.

It is true. The human mind is only equipped to handle so much. That's why things like the Wall are so mind-blowing. To actually have more than your brain can handle set visually out in front of you gives you a strange, vague notion of "a lot." As it keeps going, you get multiples of "a lot" until you reach "wow," and finally a literal mind-numbing/weird zen-ish-zone-ish feeling. If people have that shoved in front of them, the number gets meaning. Not full comprehension, but meaning.

Yeah, he said they usually shoot them but he was tired of it and wanted to try something different.

I'll admit, I don't care how the dog died. It was mean, yeah, but nothing that would warrant more than what his buddy said to him. Like you touched on however, I am genuinely upset about all the people talking about it as a horrible tragedy.

Do you have any idea how many puppies I would toss off a cliff to bring back one Iraqi or US soldier?

Because the answer is all of them.


I would kill all the puppies.

Yes, but at least those Iraqis and Marines at least have a concept of why they're going to die/dying. They possess the mental faculties to understand why someone is going to kill them. Animals only understand sickness and predation. They are incapable of understanding why these humans are throwing them off a cliff. All they know is that something is killing them for some unfathomable reason.

To me, that seems slightly more wrong than, "Oh, well this person who thinks I'm some kind of manifestation of the devil planted a crude explosive to kill me because he thinks it will somehow return control of this country to him and those who think like him."



Also, DFM? Sigged so hard, and entirely out of context.

YES DARTH SS.

I hate to say this but you may be the only other person in this forum that tends to get the concept that humans aren't the only thing to die. Like I said before, this is war, people are expected to kill and be killed, hell if that puppy was trying to maul the soldiers face off go ahead and kick him off the cliff.

But war does not and will never justify being an a**hole, take Hitler for example.
He was an a**hole, so evreyone hates him (except other a**holes).

However, obviously, that soldier was an AMERICAN a**hole, so it makes it alright.

People are freaking because a soldier mercilessly killed somthing that didn't need to be killed, then proceeded to laugh and post it on his myspace. I would be equally pissed if someone decided that sticking a firecracker in a toad was funny, and alright, then posted it on youtube.

Okay, so if I read this right you're saying that it's a-okay hunky dory that people are busy spending their day murdering and being murdered because it's "war", but a puppy is innocent and doesn't understand why you're killing it and that makes it worse than the deaths of actual people?

Jesus Christ dude, I don't care if people have a vague idea why they're dying, mourning the death of a puppy over them is pretty fucked up.

I don't even know how to take this, murder is justified in war but being asshole isn't?

You're right, that's totally what's going on!

Dog was going to die a slow, painful death so actually this isn't exactly correct if what he's saying is true.

Why does it make you so angry? It's cruel and I wouldn't exactly want to hang around people who blow up toads for a laugh but I can't see getting outraged about it.

Sorry, I apologize, didnt get nearly enough sleep last night and woke up angry. I can't remember what set me off, but I think it was actually last weeks philosophy club at my school.
Sorry, if I offended you.

However, I don't think you fully read my post.

Edit: to make perfect sense for you Ill respond to ecrey point you've made.

1) No, I'm not saying death is right, the war is right, or anything like that. I'm saying that A: It's still war, people are expected to die. A war without anyone dying is a Cold War. Big diff. I'm also not saying I'm even mourning the death of the puppy. I think It's sick that someone would do that. Even if the puppy was supposedly sick. Shoot it! Break it neck!
2) Did you completely ignore my referance? You did, didn't you? So your saying that killing millions of completely innocent civilians is more justified than killing someone that is trying to kill you?
3) Was a response to your guys defence of the man and another try to put my whole point in.
4) Look up sniper shot! No seriously look it up! My friends dad decided to show us a clip of a Iraqi soldier being shot in the head by a sniper! He LAUGHED! I almost walked into the bathroom and threw up! Why doesn't that get on TV, why isn't it a big thing? Because we don't ever, EVER, want to see it. We are ignoring that this stuff happens. The point is that a puppy is something people can handle?

And my final points? Wasn't the soldier based in hawaii? Thats what they said, and medicine isn't exactly non-exsistant there. Even if he was based in Iraq, the mear fact that he got bored of putting down puppies so decided to try something new, why do you defend this man! You don't get BORED of putting down puppies! Then his friend films it and puts it on myspace! Am I the only person to see this man as souless?

Don't worry, I did.

Well then read my edit, and please actually keep an open mind.

Edit: Oh and the other point that I forgot. He could, you know, lie. It's a childs defence mecanism, and right now this man seems more than childish enough to use it.