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Seil 03-12-2008 05:21 AM

ATTENTION ALL GIRLS: Eat Stuff
 
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Mother's plea: modelling isn't worth life

THE mother of a Brazilian fashion model who died from anorexia has made an emotional appeal for parents to take better care of aspiring models.

Ana Carolina Reston, 21, died in hospital on Tuesday from an infection caused by anorexia. She was about 1.72 metres tall but weighed only 40 kilograms. This is considered a normal weight for a 12-year-old girl no more than 1.5 metres tall.

Her death comes amid growing criticism of the use of underweight models in the fashion world. The issue was highlighted in August when Uruguayan model Luisel Ramos died of heart failure during a fashion show in Montevideo.

"Take care of your children," Reston's mother Miriam told O Globo newspaper. "No money is worth the life of your child. Not even the most famous (fashion) brand is worth this."

She said her daughter had been trying to help her family with the money she made as a model.

Ms Reston spoke on national television and to local newspapers to highlight the issue. She said she had pleaded with her daughter to eat more and to see a doctor.

"She would reply, 'Mummy, don't mess me around,"' she told one paper.

Over a picture of Reston wearing lingerie, the tabloid O Dia ran the headline: "Dictatorship of skinny look kills a model."

Many top models come from Brazil and thousands of young girls from all walks of life dream of following in the footsteps of Gisele Bundchen or Adriana Lima. Reston was not famous but she had worked overseas and did some jobs for Giorgio Armani.

There was a storm in the fashion world in September when models below a certain weight were barred from Spain's top fashion show in Madrid.

Models with a body mass index of less than 18 were banned. BMI measures weight relative to height.

Reston's was 13.5. Those with a BMI below 17.5 are diagnosed with anorexia nervosa and a BMI nearing 15 is an indicator of starvation.


Here is what Wikipedia has to say on Anorexia. Now girls. I know that most guys view a girl to be sexy if she's slim. Slim as in low body weight, not slim as in skeletal. What would you rather have - a little bit of love handles, or a shiny new coffin? For the love of all that is sacred, eat some foods!

Kim 03-12-2008 05:32 AM

Uhm, I am not a girls, can I still say something?

Speaking from the perspective of a guy, slim is hot, but I can't say that ribs are a turn-on. When I hear about stuff like this, I get this feeling like people are addicted to self-degredation. If it isn't "I'm too fat," it's some other totally pointless aspect of physical appearance.

Is it good to criticize yourself? When it's looking at ways you can improve yourself, it is. Eating healthier, excersizing more, etc. But when you are just tearing yourself down and it's affecting your health in a negative way, shame on you.

Kinda rambled, but I'd rather have a nation of people who were happy with themselves, even if they didn't look as hot as such and such a model, than a nation of skeletal corpse people.

katiuska 03-12-2008 07:05 AM

The sad thing is that the general population often doesn't distinguish between anorexic girls and naturally-lean ones -- it's all pretty, and the extreme weight loss of anorexia is often rewarded with compliments even after doctors and people close to the girl see that it's bad.

There is a distinction, though, I can look a very thin girls and I can kind of gauge which ones look natural and healthy and which ones don't.

A friend of mine raised a red flag when she started saying stuff about how she was a fatass (she wasn't) and how she was cutting her diet to a cup of yogurt and a handful of nuts per day. It's hard to know what to say to that. She went downhill from there, and everyone was concerned, but you can't change the way they see themselves, and when people would try to get her to eat, it felt to her like the world was conspiring to keep her fat. The best thing seemed to be listening and not outright contradicting her feelings of grotesque fatness but sort of working though the idea that this was not a happy lifestyle and maybe therapy would help. She did seek therapy, and I think it was okay for her; she's been doing a lot better these days, anyway. The thoughts are still there, but she's more able to dismiss them now and she's about 25 lbs heavier. (At her worst, I think she got to 98lb or so; she's 5'6".)

Demetrius 03-12-2008 07:15 AM

Demetrius likes the curves of the amazon woman, healthy and athletic is good!

Tyrfing 03-12-2008 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Seil
Now girls. I know that most guys view a girl to be sexy if she's slim. Slim as in low body weight, not slim as in skeletal. What would you rather have - a little bit of love handles, or a shiny new coffin? For the love of all that is sacred, eat some foods!

That's not sexy. That's not sexy at all. :gonk:

I don't have any harrowing stories.

Satan's Onion 03-12-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Noncontradictory
Speaking from the perspective of a guy, slim is hot, but I can't say that ribs are a turn-on. When I hear about stuff like this, I get this feeling like people are addicted to self-degredation. If it isn't "I'm too fat," it's some other totally pointless aspect of physical appearance.

Is it good to criticize yourself? When it's looking at ways you can improve yourself, it is. Eating healthier, excersizing more, etc. But when you are just tearing yourself down and it's affecting your health in a negative way, shame on you.

Kinda rambled, but I'd rather have a nation of people who were happy with themselves, even if they didn't look as hot as such and such a model, than a nation of skeletal corpse people.

Thing is, it's...it's complicated. You can try saying "just be happy with yourself", but it's not that simple. A good portion of the economy is based on making people--this goes much more than double for women--feel incredibly shitty about how they look/dress/smell/whatevs, and then proposing that the way to feel better and improve yourself is to Buy [product] Now! And women especially are told almost from birth to judge themselves by how other people see them--and right on the heels of that, they're told to ignore what other people think of them, to Love and Respect Themselves and everything will be all right and you'll be empowered 'n' stuff because jeez, you're just crazy for buying into all that advertising stuff. So to be fully acceptable as a woman in this culture, you have to be empowered and proactive and have a healthy self-esteem...and be totally smokin' hawt and never be caught dead in last season's fashions and know all the latest ways to pleasure your man (What? You don't have a man? What's wrong with you? Obviously landing one is your top--nay, only--priority) despite not having had more than a couple of boyfriends ('cos men get freaked out by a woman with an extensive sexual history). It's a great big nigh-ubiquitous cultural mindfuck that you can only really escape by getting yourself a cabin in the woods, is what I'm getting at.

You can say, "Just ignore it" but unless you're female, you're not in the proverbial eye of the hurricane; ignoring it is very, very, very, incredibly difficult, almost to the point of being impossible. It's hard to get over you and everyone who looks at you hanging most of your identity on how other people see you. Just being happy with yourself is--well, it's a start, but the culture we live in needs fixing on a far more fundamental level than that.

Hex 03-12-2008 08:44 AM

Alright I'm a teenage guy, and obviously my population of potential spouses is currently most affected. Well, ESPECIALLY my population. All schools have a problem, and ours is anorexia.
What does that mean, slim is sexy, but in a sickening way. I dont think I've ever dated a girl underweight besides my first gf (that was a hookup and a mistake, so it doesnt count)
Basically, I'm actually more attracted to girls that, well you know, HAVE A BODY. They have CURVES, anorexic girls have POLYGONAL shaped bodies. There is nothing sexy about that.

On a side note, they also lose the T&A...

Anyway, that's from the purely sexual side. I won't even tough the personality area yet...

Kim 03-12-2008 09:13 AM

I guess that I am not very understanding, as I can't stand behavior that doesn't make sense: Staying in an abusive relationship and anorexia being at the top of my list, or near the top...

Hex 03-12-2008 09:29 AM

That is perfectly understandable, but for some reason girls get sucked into these things and can't get out. I personally know one who is part of both.

Gah, idiots

russianreversal 03-12-2008 09:30 AM

I think it displays a certain amount of determination that would be better used for other purposes. Few 21 year olds I know would have the determination to starve themselves all the way down to 90 lbs.

On that note, however, I think that the BMI banning should be implimented in all fashion shows, so as to get the message in these girls heads that there is absolutely no reason for them to do this.


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