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POS Industries 04-21-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Megaman FTW
No offense, but the way you make it sound, supremacy might be a ways off...

Clearly the only way to solve this is with a dance off- err, battle.

Oh well, with the rediculously odd way I play, they might as well be the same.

Who are you, again?

Pip Boy 04-21-2008 08:52 PM

What kind of question is that? This is forum! I could be anyone! The only thing that matters in particular in relation to that is that I do not stalk you within the extent of you knowledge. Wanna brawl?

Mirai Gen 04-23-2008 03:28 AM

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On a related note, I'm under the impression that Mirai and I are going to have to eventually throw down for Zelda supremacy sometime. Should be fun.
I've been Zelda-ing since Melee. She was always my one true love. The Toe being turned into the Heel makes things a bit different for me, but they made Din's Fire less circumstantial and more of a useful projectile. She's become all-around good as opposed to tricky yet fun. I never liked Sheik - she always seemed like the Generic Quick But Weak Ninja character, and Melee's exploits made her total bullshit. She's become low to mid-tiered recently and that makes me happier, but all the same she never fit my style.

We will indeed, though I warn you Wi-Fi is not optimal Brawl circumstances under any means. No fight I engage in on wi-fi should ever be considered "my true skill."

Except that time I totally obliterated BlackHBMage with Ike. That was fun, though the Halberd's cannon certainly helped.

Ganondorf may be one of the worst characters in the game, but he's amazingly fun. I just managed to storm through Hard and I'm this close to beating Very Hard with him (Fucking Tabuu.). I also just cranked out a 1700+ Home Run Contest with him. Yay Warlock Punch + Thunderstomp. I even saved the replay.

What are your guys' top scores for HRC?

POS Industries 04-23-2008 04:20 AM

I've never tried the WiFi play yet, so I'm not sure if it will be a measure of "true skill" on my part, either. In fact, I'm not at all sure how relatively skilled I am at all. I can handle a single level 9 opponent with relative ease, but I'm only confident in my abilities against three computer opponents at an average level of 6. None of this, of course, is an indicator of anything in a match against humans, as the computer doesn't deal in strategery and relies on nothing more than immediately countering your button inputs. Multiple opponents almost constantly attack the player(s) rather than fighting amongst themselves like humans would.

I'm also fairly decent with ROB, Toon Link, Peach, and ZSamus.

As for HRC, I just (as in five minutes ago) beat the 1500 ft challenge with Ike.

Mirai Gen 04-23-2008 04:58 AM

I usually roll with Zelda, Ganondorf, ROB, Ike, (and less often) Bowser, Mario, Kirby, Red (PKMN Trainer), and Ness.

I've also been trying to learn Dedede, Lucario, and trying to find ways that Samus and Link don't suck.

This is the greatest game ever.

Pip Boy 04-23-2008 08:32 AM

I learned Lucario before I started learning Shiek. Problem is that I didn't play Lucario enough to keep my skill up, and while I was an unstoppable monster, I'm now somewhat average with him.

You guys talking about homerun contest reminded me of the cheat in training mode. If you're trying to clear all challenges, there is one that requires you get a total combined combo of 400 hits from all characters in training mode.

If you put your enemy in front of a Smart Bomb, then hit them with it, getting yourself caught in the blast as well, you can constantly spawn more smart bombs into the explosion. They will be held in this blast with you for a long time, and it should be easy to get a 400 hit combo in almost no time at all.

Nintendo Wifi isn't too bad anymore, there used to be massive levels of lag that seemed to have reduced to a degree. There is a major problem with command lag though. It makes using things like Counter or dodging attacks very difficult because you have less reaction time. The controls take about a second longer than normal to take effect. One important thing I've seen in WiFi (learned this on the nintendo forum) is that if you have a Linksys router make sure it is on wireless channel 1 or 11. Others will make you lag more.

Thylacine 04-23-2008 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Megaman FTW
If you put your enemy in front of a Smart Bomb, then hit them with it, getting yourself caught in the blast as well, you can constantly spawn more smart bombs into the explosion. They will be held in this blast with you for a long time, and it should be easy to get a 400 hit combo in almost no time at all.

Or just go to a walled stage and pin the computer against the wall with someone like Kirby or Shiek.

My record on home run is a little bit over 1500. Those replays that get sent everyday of HRC and target breaker are pretty impressive.

Loyal 04-23-2008 10:18 AM

I'm pretty fond of Meta Knight, Wario, Mario, Captain Falcon, Ike, Lucas, Marth, and ROB.

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and trying to find ways that Samus and Link don't suck.
Link is actually pretty decent in this game, nerfed SKRAAAH or not. He's got good knockback in the right places and his Bair is (from my experience) fantastic.

As for Samus... Good. Luck.

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What are your guys' top scores for HRC?
I haven't done TOO much with that yet. I just went straight to the EZMode Yoshi for the 1500 ft challenge and haven't touched it since.
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Those replays that get sent everyday of HRC and target breaker are pretty impressive.
That one with Snake on Lv 4 BtT a few days ago was amazing.

My main complaint with Wi-Fi is that the lag damage is communal - If one guy's connection REALLY sucks, EVERYONE suffers for it in the form of command lag and framerate slowdown.

Selfish Philanthropic 04-23-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Loyal2NES
That one with Snake on Lv 4 BtT a few days ago was amazing.

Yeah, that replay was just insane. I don't even want to know how much practice that required.

On the subject of Target Tests, I've been able to attain about a 24 second completion for the Level 5 Tests with Ness, Meta Knight, Marth, Ike, and Kirby. I've learned that you can throw the beam sword to hit not only the two targets in the bottom area, but also the target in the top-right corner of the enclosed area. You should be able to hit the one outside the area with an air move (I haven't figured out a way to get the Beam Sword to hit that target reliably).

In addition, you can hit one of the mid-air targets in the left portion of the level by throwing the mortar weapon (not a smash throw, but a tilt-throw) while standing on the platform you got the mortar from. I can't really think of how to shave off any more time, any ideas? That one target underneath your starting location always causes problems for me, as I have to go out of my way to break it, regardless of the route I take.

Loyal 04-23-2008 12:54 PM

Well, I dunno about the others but I could send you my 19.4 second replay on lv 5 with Meta Knight. He has no projectiles, but his multiple jumps + glides REALLY comes in handy for that stage's geometry.


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