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Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope 04-23-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Selfish Philanthropic
You will endure, but you'll be a shell of your former self.

You're saying I will be a heartless person afterwards.

That is the nicest thing anyone has ever said.

And not to make this post spammy, is there a good way to use Yoshi?

Regulus Tera 04-23-2008 02:18 PM

His Egg Roll can stop a full spin-dash from Sonic, Ganondorf's Warlock Punch, C. Falcon's Falcon Punch, Meta Knight's Tornado, and Samus' full Charge Beam.

That's about it.

The Mirror Emperor 04-23-2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Selfish Philanthrophic
I'm assuming by "special moves", you mean his B moves, correct? Remember that you can charge up all of them by holding down B. His neutral B is a homing attack, his forward B causes him to hop and thus combo into aerials easier, and his down B is a ground-based spin. The spring that Sonic's recovery move creates can be used as a projectile: you can create a sort of "combo" with up and B when above your opponent, followed by his down aerial.

They all looked the same to me, hence why I was confused. But thanks for the intel.

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Originally Posted by Big Mac

And not to make this post spammy, is there a good way to use Yoshi?

Two words: Ground Pound.

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope 04-23-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mirror Emperor
Two words: Ground Pound.

I find the ground pound is in the same category as link's Dair. I mean it is good if you are just above the guys head as it makes more difficult to avoid. But correct me if I am wrong, but doesn;t the ground pound lift you up a bit.

Also, RT, send me a link for Earthbound (I deleted it a while back) and I'll try it again.

01d55 04-23-2008 02:31 PM

Yoshi's Dair does absurdly good % damage. It's not just for home run bat - even if only half the move connects, you've done more than most smash attacks.

Also, very fast ftilt and utilt.

For Samus: Utilt and Dtilt are your friends.

Mirai Gen 04-23-2008 03:32 PM

"Samus that doesn't suck" doesn't really get fixed when you become Zero Suit Samus. She's a wholly separate character and Samus isn't half as good.

I mean, you can be ZSamus from the start - there's a button that you hold when the match starts and Samus' armor falls off. Short of that, put your finger on the D-pad (Gamecube) or 1 and 2 (Wiimote) and taunt up and down like crazy and it'll switch to ZSamus really quick.

Anyway
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And not to make this post spammy, is there a good way to use Yoshi?
He's not as good as he used to be, but Dair and Bair right on top of them racks damage really fast, and Fair, Fsmash, and Dsmash are all good finishers.

Learn the eggs. They are your weapon.

POS: Read this thread. It'll save you months of practice and confusion about missing a Faeore's Wind.

The jist basically says that Faeore's Wind doesn't have an 8-way teleport, it's a 16-way. Which is why sometimes you teleport and you end up under the platform, and you think, "Oh, I missed the timing." You didn't.

POS Industries 04-23-2008 04:11 PM

Oh, I've already read that bit, so I know how the whole thing works. I've got a decent enough handle on using it as a recovery tool and have moved on to using it offensively, which is hella fun. She makes a pretty good Nightcrawler.

Regulus Tera 04-23-2008 04:42 PM

From my contacts: Japanese Dairantou Suma Bura Ekkusu Tier Listing based on weekly ranking battles and top player collaboration.

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S - Snake, Falco, R.O.B., Metaknight
A - Fox
B - Mr. Game & Watch, Diddy, Toon Link, Pit, Marth
C - Ice Climbers, Wolf, Olimar, Zero Suit Samus, Pikachu, Mario, Lucas, Lucario
D - Kirby, Sheik, Dedede, Luigi, Wario
E - Everyone else

Worst character was agreed to be Ganondorf.
I believe they are putting Fox and Falco far too high, especially when Fox right now seems to be the best of all the Space Animals, followed closely by Wolf.

Note: The Japanese adjust their lists weekly. Zelda not even in the ranking shows there's room for adjustments. The only consistent thing week to week is that Snake is #1 (which makes me happy).

POS Industries 04-23-2008 04:56 PM

Eh, I say leave her under the radar. The last thing I want is the character I've grown so fond of becoming the next Marth.

Loyal 04-23-2008 05:21 PM

Marth is still the Marth. Shorter range, yes, but still very Marthy.

I'd say Zelda is the new Falcon: Really dangerous, rewarding aerials in front and behind, that don't really do much if not hit properly.

On that note, Wario is the new Jiggs.

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