Fantasy Afflictions
 

I was watching some random vampire-flick, and I got a crazy thought.

What if a vampire was bitten by a werewolf? Would it become a superior being?

I imagine that would depend on the type of vampire. If the vamp is of the classic "undead" variety he would either be immune, or it would kill him, the same as Dead Mans Blood would (which is what happened to Dracula one time, in Van Helsing).

However if the vampirism is viral in nature, then it could possibly create a Werevamp(TM), but mostly it just comes down to the rules of whatever fictional reality this might happen in.

I wonder though, if you can make a Werezombie(TM) this way too.

Werewolf disease is a disease. It affects ones living cells. No way you'd get a vampire with that. Or a zombie. Same as I can't give Polio to a corpse no matter how much I'd want to.
Same as you wouldn't get an alien with a different cellular structure who happened to look human. Otherwise when Mr Werewolf ate some meat it'd start turning into stuff. Same for plants he happened to nibble on.
Looking the same ain't being the same.

I think both BHS and Hawk have said all that needs to be said in this thread: In summary: if it's undead, no. If it's some other kind of vampire, the answer is likely yes.

For instance, Buffy vampires are right out. Castlevania vampires circa Castlevania 64 are much more questionable, as the victim does not need to die to become a vampire.

Lots of versions of vampirism depict it as a sort of disease.

Best way around it is to have the werewolf get infected instead, rather than the other way around. Assuming that either the vampirism or zombification is actually viral of course.

But yeah, infecting the undead with anything is way out.

well there was that awful shit bag of a movie Underworld...

(The chick was hot though)

But considering what I'd say to be the classical definitions of both afflictions, they would appear to be incompatible maladies. Werewolves are the products of a disease affecting living organisms and vampires are the reanimated corpses of typically self indulgent fops.

Then again, lycanthropy is a magical affliction, so who's to say it won't work on the necrotic flesh of the vile undead?

but then waht about Zompires and Werebies? oh dear...

Underworld was awesome. Haven't seen the second so I won't comment on that.

Anyways.

One theory, as seen in the New World of Darkness, is that the supernatural afflictions simply dont work on other supernatural creatures. Granted in nWoD werewolves are born not made, but they say that the potency of vampire blood isn't enough to turn a werewolf (or any other supernatural for that matter)

Which keeps people from making Werepiremagelingethians.

I can see why you can't make a Mage-Vampire hybrid, because you have to be alive and in possession of an actual soul to undergo the awakening, and the same thing is true for werewolves, which are nothing if not embodiments of supernatural vitality.

But what about a weremage?!

I see no logical reason why such a thing couldn't exist. Other than those humbugs at white wolf being weary of stat maxers.

Actually, I see no reason why it wouldn't be able to cross-pollenate.

A vampire is dead by human standards, yes, but not in terms of the bare basics. Even in viral scenarios, a vampire drinks blood. Human blood typically. I always assumed it was because, while it's body could no longer produce or refresh that particular humour of its own accord, it was still in need of it to function. Without any kind of flow at all the cells would atrophy just like a corpse, which is typically what you see happen to vampires - that don't feed. I assume the sunlight scenario would function similarly (in terms of them ashing quickly as opposed to bursting into flame) due to the dead cells not being able to withstand or regenerate after exposure to heat and UV rays.

Under that idea, a vampire could still be afflicted with lycanthropy. I thought that's what a Worg was, anyway?

On opposite spectrum, if both are of mystical inclination, it's just overlaying one curse on top of another. Neither preclude the other in any fashion as far as I'm aware, so each would just take effect as long as its conditions weren't violated.

And, in final terms of viral vs. mystical, they function upon completely different rulesets. If werewolf is mystical and vampire is viral, or vice versa, I doubt the given powers that be would give a crap if you were *dead*. You do what they say you do, damnit. The virus does its thing, the PtB do theirs, and you're screwed with both.