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BitVyper 04-06-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Barrel-Hating Sycophant
As far as I remember the Time Lords gave him a new cycle of regenerations to help the Doctor in the Five Doctors and then after he died again resurrected him to fight against the Daleks in the Time War.

He came back briefly in the seventh Doctor's run. I can't recall what happened to him at the end of the serial, however.

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Originally Posted by 42PETUNIAS
I imagine that regeneration limit is something imposed to prevent them from getting too powerful or immoral, as an eternal being would totally get.

That sounds like the Time Lords, more or less. They're big on order and things being the way they're supposed to be, it seems. True immortals are wrong.

Regulus Tera 04-06-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Barrel-Hating Sycophant
As far as I remember the Time Lords gave him a new cycle of regenerations to help the Doctor in the Five Doctors

They offered them to him, but they never gave them thanks to the fact that the Master fucking double-crossed them.

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Originally Posted by Barrel-Hating Sycophant
If the Time Lords can just give out new cycles of regeneration why do they ever die?

Probably only the higher Gallifreyans can.

Cati 04-06-2008 08:11 PM

I may be the only one, but I adore the new theme music. So there. :D And the first episode was great. Not awe-inspiring, but I found it hilarious, which is awesome enough to me. Especially Donna's and the Doctor's mimed conversation. GOLD.

42PETUNIAS 04-06-2008 08:34 PM

I actually made it halfway through that conversation without losing track.

Yeah, I was pretty proud of that.

G.I.R. 04-07-2008 01:09 PM

Cati,

I was laughing my ass off as I watched that little silent conversation. I really like Donna and was excited to see Rose's appearance at the end. But what do you think the whole "fading away" as she walked off is foreshadowing? Is it really her? or something else entirely?

I'm excited for the new season.

As for Torchwood, I was a little bummed with the ending. I really liked Toshiko and hated seeing her bite it at the end. Owen was a given, he wasn't long for the world anyway given his current condition. But it does leave room for Martha Jones to return and become a full time member of the team.

Here's to hoping Captain John becomes a regular. I think that would make life very interesting for Torchwood.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 04-07-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by G.I.R.
But what do you think the whole "fading away" as she walked off is foreshadowing? Is it really her? or something else entirely?

I think that's just her fading back through the void to the other universe. Clearly she has found some way to get back and is now trying to find the Doctor again.



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As for Torchwood, I was a little bummed with the ending. I really liked Toshiko and hated seeing her bite it at the end. Owen was a given, he wasn't long for the world anyway given his current condition. But it does leave room for Martha Jones to return and become a full time member of the team.
It was sad, but that's what makes it good to watch. Seeing important characters die and stay dead for good is much better than seeing characters repeatedly die over and over again only to come back next season because people like them. Killing main characters keeps you guessing and keeps things unpredictable.

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Here's to hoping Captain John becomes a regular. I think that would make life very interesting for Torchwood.
Oh god yes, James Marsters is always awesome when he's around, but I do think that John is perhaps a little too similar to Spike really. If he became a regular I'd expect at least a slight shift in that characters personality. Still he's always welcome in a recurring role.

Regulus Tera 04-12-2008 05:13 PM

Holy shit. Did they really just base an episode on the Cambridge Latin Course?!

Wow. Best use of a licence fee ever. That is, if I had to pay for one.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 04-12-2008 05:40 PM

I liked this episode, especially with that whole moral dilemma at the end, especially considering how the Doctor refused to do a similar thing back in The Parting Of The Ways. I guess 20,000 lives is an acceptable loss to him.

The lack of a Harkness cameo was dissapointing though.

Moynahand 04-12-2008 07:54 PM

I enjoyed this episode. Seeing the Doctor fight a giant lava monster with a water pisol is just plain awesome.

Also, in this episode and last weeks, the aliens' home planet had somehow disapeared. Maybe that's the event connecting the episodes for this season?

Regulus Tera 04-12-2008 08:11 PM

I say the Medusa Cascade had something to do with that. It was mentioned during the Master's talk with the Doctor last season.

And we totally need a gif of the Doctor threatening with the water gun.

Overall, I thought it was a decent episode, if just a bit slow in the beginning. Also, I would have liked the ending a lot more if the Doctor had decided to not go back for that family, but seeing it was based a bit on the series of books I previously mentioned I guessed he had to do what he did. 3/5


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