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42PETUNIAS 06-01-2008 04:37 PM

Ooh... that stings. Good episode, but it really accelerated to amazing for the end.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 06-01-2008 05:07 PM

Yeah, it was good, but not as good as it was hyped to be. I think that's mostly due to having a few too many unanswered questions at the end of the first part though, so hopefully the conclusion next week will make everything make sense in some sort of awesome fashion.

Anyone got any theories on things? Like who's that girl in the past and how is she linked to the Library? Who's the sinsiter Dr Moon? And what might this CAL(?) be?

42PETUNIAS 06-01-2008 05:14 PM

I'm thinking CAL is the girls name, which is cleverly worked into meaning Computer Assisted Library, or some way of tying her in like that cleverly. Just a guess, but it seems the sort of thing that would happen.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 06-01-2008 05:21 PM

I think you may be right 42; if Cal is the girl, then the girl is actually an AI, which would explain Moon telling her that what she thinks is reality is not real. She's a malfunctioning computer, who's having delusions of being a young girl and doesn't know what's real any more. If this is true then Moon might just be some sort of self-correcting program trying to repair the damage.

It's like the Matrix in reverse!

At least that's now my theory anyway.

42PETUNIAS 06-01-2008 05:25 PM

Or maybe she's designed to act like a person in running the library, but her dad is some sort of computer virus that controls her. I think the... shadow things are incidentally related to the problem, or at least controlled by something greater.

Steel Shadow 06-01-2008 06:32 PM

This was actualy kind of a boring episode for me. Maybe I just look at these things to much as something someone has written, but the whole thing felt more like that statues episode last season 'Part 2!'. The enemy is the same sort of deal (Assasins that move when your not looking/flesh eating microbiesomesuch things in the dark), and the way they act seems inconsitant (Ok, so light weakens them, but they can make their own mysterious moving shadows, so what's the problem? Why not just eat everyone when you find them? At least in Blink it took a while after I'd seen the epside for me to realise that quantitive states don't depend on someone looking at them). The doctor clearly works out what the problem is as soon as he hears about the shadows, but doesn't tell anyone, 'cuase he's a jerk, I guess?

And hey, look! A new version of Timey Wimey Ball! Except this time instead of the Doctor helping someone who he's met but hasn't met him (with added time loop bonus, woo!), this time he's *being* helped by someone who's met him, but he hasn't met himself (anyone wanna give me odds on another time loop at the end of it all?).

Seriously, I know Moffat wrote both episodes, so some similarities can be expected, but this feels like he just took a very sucessful episode and changed a few key details to try and replicate it.



Oooon the other hand maybe I'm being to harsh and just looking for similarites. And maybe I've spent to much time on tvtropes.com. They were right, it does ruin your life.

Regulus Tera 06-01-2008 09:00 PM

That's definitely too much tvtropes.

Ryu Van Burace 06-02-2008 04:06 AM

I'm personally wondering about two things after seeing SITL:

1) 4022 Saved - No Survivors. Saved = saved in terms of a file save? This could explain the whole aspect thing.
2) Keep going back to soothsayer stone arm - "There's something on your back". Spine?

I think that's vague enough not to be spoilers but enough to show what I'm trying to indicate.
Also: good god, how long did it take people to realize the whole River Song thing? It's pretty straight forward, personal timelines and all that.
Got to love how Moffat has turned innocent phrases into creepy things e.g. "Are you my mummy?".

42PETUNIAS 06-07-2008 07:22 PM

Well, that was pretty satisfying, in my opinion.

Quote:

I'm thinking CAL is the girls name
Called it.

Also, the next episode needs a Snakes on a Plane reference.

Regulus Tera 06-07-2008 09:12 PM

May I say that was more epic than any of the finales so far? Because that was more epic than any of the finales so far. Though I guessed correctly what River had whispered to the Doctor, it was packed of fuck awesome. 5/5

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Originally Posted by Ryu Van Burace (Post 791499)
1) 4022 Saved - No Survivors. Saved = saved in terms of a file save? This could explain the whole aspect thing.

And you were right. Get a cookie!

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