Doesn't it feel Ood around this time of the year? DOCTOR WHO SERIES 4 DISCUSSION HERE
 

What is Doctor Who?

What's new?

• The new companion this series is Donna Noble, who last appeared in the Christmas special The Runaway Bride. Although there has been some backlash against the new pairing, many people, including me, expect a whole different dynamic with her and the Doctor from the previous lovey dovey teenage melodrama.
  
• The returning enemies from Classic Doctor Who are The Sontarans. They will get a two-parter against the Doctor, who fights with the assistance of UNIT against the alien menace. Also, a famous scientist is rumoured to make his comeback in this series...
  
• The hystorical figures this year are the Pompeii residents and famous writer Agatha Christie, the latter's episode supposed to be a comedic "Whodunnit".
  
• Episode six is supposed to shock the Doctor to his very core. If you want more information then unspoiler that episode's title.
  
• Steven Moffat's contribution this year is a two-parter. That's all you need to know.
  
• It is also CONFIRMED said that some companions are returning to the finale. Whether that will be the greatest (or shittiest) idea ever excreted by Russell T Davies' arse remains to be seen.

Trailers (contain spoilers)

• Voyage of the Damned Sneak Peek
  
• Cinematic Trailer (HUGE MOTHERFUCKING SPOILERS FOR THE FINALE)

Episode Titles

1. Partners in Crime
   Written By Russell T Davies (Author of pretty much the good and the bad of New Doctor Who)
   
2. The Fires of Pompeii
   Written By James Moran (New writer)
   
3. Planet of the Ood
   Written By Keith Temple (New writer)
   
4. The Sontaran Stratagem
   Written By Helen Raynor (Author of Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks)
   
5. The Poison Sky
   Written By Helen Raynor (Continuation from the previous episode)
   
6. The Doctor's Daughter
   Written By Stephen Greenhorn (Author of The Lazarus Experiment)
   
7. The Unicorn and the Wasp
   Written By Gareth Roberts (Author of The Shakespeare Code)
   
8. Silence in the Library
   Written By Steven Moffat (Author of The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, The Girl in the Fireplace, and Blink)
   Yeah, you should pay some attention to this guy.
   
9. Forest of the Dead
   Written By Steven Moffat (HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS DUDE IS WRITING TWO EPISODES?!!!)
   
10. Midnight
    Written By Russell T Davies (You know the drill)
    
11. Turn Left
    Written By Russell T Davies (Why does he suck so much?!)
    
12. The Stolen Earth
    Written By Russell T Davies (Why is he so awesome?!)
    
13. Journey's End
    Written By Russell T Davies (WHY THE FUCK DOES HE SUCK SO MUCH?!!!)

Where can I watch it?

If you live in Great Britain (and probably Northern Ireland), you can tune in to BBC One at around 06:20 PM tomorrow. If you live in the United States, the new series begins in April 18 with the sucky Christmas special Voyage of the Damned (by Russell T Davies!!). If you live somewhere else or cannot wait for Sci-Fi to get on track, then I don't know, there's youtube or something.

Links and Shit

• Official Doctor Who Site
  
• A first look at the monsters from episode one CUUUUTE
  
• A second look at those squishy bastards

Go wild, ladies and gentlemen.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


*ahem*

Picked up Dr. Who last fall, but unfortunately, I don't think this is getting here, just like it didn't come for the christmas special. I just hope I can find a place to watch it fairly quickly this time.

I am saddened that Paul Cornell (author of the AMAZINGLY good 2 parter last year Human Nature/Family of Blood) is not returning to write an episode...

I think episode 8 is likely going to be made of equal parts win and epic, considering who's writing it. I can't wait.

I just hope they can succesfully pull off bringing back all of these previous companions. I mean, Rose, Martha, Jack AND Sarah Jane! That's a pretty hefty line up, so they better not fuck it up.

But yeah, really psyched for this, especially after that epic Torchwood finale this evening.

steven moffat needs to kill russel T. davies and take his place.

Ok first impressions;

New theme music, I do not like. The previous one was much better, whereas this one sucks.

Donna, much improved, because I couldn't stand her in her original appearance, but she definately seems less screechy and thick now. Hopefully this shall remain so.

Everything else, as good as usual, but that opening ep was a tad weak to say the least.

Now for questions/baseless speculations;

What's with all these sonic devices that are suddenly cropping up everywhere?? Toshiko built one, Sarah Jane's built one, Foster had one and I seem to remember seeing another women using one during an advert for that Sarah Jane spin off ages ago. Are they just suddenly coming back into fashion or what?

So Rose is back already, but how? Anyone got any theories? And has anyone got any idea what this seasons "word arc" might be, assuming there is one?

And lastly, next week, it's Volcano Day!! Reckon good old Captain Jack might make a cameo appearance?

Steven Moffat has said before he doesn't want to run the show. I'll dig the article from the depths of the old Outpost Gallifrey in a minute.

Regarding this episode: Those were the cutest monsters ever!!

I liked this script. It was some good fun, and though not brilliant, it kept me entertained. Volcano Day, on the other hand, seems to be made of unadultered win.

Seconded.

As long as she doesn't become involved romantically with the Doctor I think I'll be fine. There's just so much you can stand of him being a Bond wannabe.

Everything else, as good as usual, but that opening ep was a tad weak to say the least.

Now for questions/baseless speculations;

I think it RTD said there wasn't going to be a word arc this time, but rather that there would be references to a particular event along the whole season. I'll bet for the bees disappearing, seeing there's a wasp in a future episode.

OH PLEASE DO.

So, umm, what do you think the deal is with Rose Tyler's appearance? The explanation seems pretty simple, but what does it mean if the separation between the two dimensions is/could be weakening, and do you think she will meet up with the Doctor for real?

This is far too juicy for RTD to pass as just a mere cameo.

I think the surprise revelation this season will be Davros. Now, I don't know much of classic Doctor Who, but maybe he was trapped in the Void like the Daleks in Army of Ghosts/Doomsday? If Dalek Caan went to get him at the end of Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks, I think it's possible for the separation to be weakening.

I watched season one and hated it, so tell me: was Torchwood improved during the second season? Should I watch it or can I live without knowing how much sex does Jack get in the butt?

I think the only reason I'd watch Torchwood again was if I could be guaranteed a Doctor cameo.

You'd think I would've checked wikipedia or something last time before going through the whole series.

Didn't the seventh Doctor trick Davros into killing himself? I think it was Remembrance of the Daleks.

Not that this has ever stopped a Doctor Who villain from returning, mind.

The Master was also killed many times in the old series and the Daleks have been wiped out from existence about a dozen of times now. I don't think death would be enough to keep Davros out of the way.

It could be an alternate dimension Davros also.

Well, the master was a time lord, wasn't he? And the Darleks are a race, rather than just one guy who was (I'm guessing) killed onscreen. I think they'll drop the darleks for the major plot of this season, which is to say that I think they'll be an episode or two around the darleks (wasn't there one left?) but no, I don't think it will be the big finale or anything important enough to include Davros.

He was a Time Lord, but he actually went out through all his regenerations. During the eighties his whole plot was that he needed to get a new cycle of regenerations, "dying" many many times but returning in the next episode exactly in the same body as before. He died again, permanently, in the TV Movie. In fact, I believe he even said he was "revived" by the Time Lords in the last season's finale.

All I'm saying is that anything can be retconned very easily in this series.

He's come back almost as many times previously. Actually, now that I recall Remembrance, I think Davros was spirited away under mysterious circumstances. I don't think he'd have been in the Void though. The Daleks don't like him.

I doubt Davros is even coming back anyway, the Sontarans are the Big Bad this season I believe.

Oh and I had a look, but it doesn't appear the Barrowman is in next weeks episode. A missed opportunity there.

Well, he doesn't have to be the season finale to be in it. They're probably trying not to do another Dalek focused finale.

What are the chances that they start selling the things from the first episode this year? Even as a blokey-bloke, I wanted one.

As far as I remember the Time Lords gave him a new cycle of regenerations to help the Doctor in the Five Doctors and then after he died again resurrected him to fight against the Daleks in the Time War.
If the Time Lords can just give out new cycles of regeneration why do they ever die?

I imagine that regeneration limit is something imposed to prevent them from getting too powerful or immoral, as an eternal being would totally get. Stretching it would only be in dire circumstances, lest they create a monster.

He came back briefly in the seventh Doctor's run. I can't recall what happened to him at the end of the serial, however.

That sounds like the Time Lords, more or less. They're big on order and things being the way they're supposed to be, it seems. True immortals are wrong.

They offered them to him, but they never gave them thanks to the fact that the Master fucking double-crossed them.

Probably only the higher Gallifreyans can.

I may be the only one, but I adore the new theme music. So there. :D And the first episode was great. Not awe-inspiring, but I found it hilarious, which is awesome enough to me. Especially Donna's and the Doctor's mimed conversation. GOLD.

I actually made it halfway through that conversation without losing track.

Yeah, I was pretty proud of that.

Cati,

I was laughing my ass off as I watched that little silent conversation. I really like Donna and was excited to see Rose's appearance at the end. But what do you think the whole "fading away" as she walked off is foreshadowing? Is it really her? or something else entirely?

I'm excited for the new season.

As for Torchwood, I was a little bummed with the ending. I really liked Toshiko and hated seeing her bite it at the end. Owen was a given, he wasn't long for the world anyway given his current condition. But it does leave room for Martha Jones to return and become a full time member of the team.

Here's to hoping Captain John becomes a regular. I think that would make life very interesting for Torchwood.

I think that's just her fading back through the void to the other universe. Clearly she has found some way to get back and is now trying to find the Doctor again.



It was sad, but that's what makes it good to watch. Seeing important characters die and stay dead for good is much better than seeing characters repeatedly die over and over again only to come back next season because people like them. Killing main characters keeps you guessing and keeps things unpredictable.

Oh god yes, James Marsters is always awesome when he's around, but I do think that John is perhaps a little too similar to Spike really. If he became a regular I'd expect at least a slight shift in that characters personality. Still he's always welcome in a recurring role.

Holy shit. Did they really just base an episode on the Cambridge Latin Course?!

Wow. Best use of a licence fee ever. That is, if I had to pay for one.

I liked this episode, especially with that whole moral dilemma at the end, especially considering how the Doctor refused to do a similar thing back in The Parting Of The Ways. I guess 20,000 lives is an acceptable loss to him.

The lack of a Harkness cameo was dissapointing though.

I enjoyed this episode. Seeing the Doctor fight a giant lava monster with a water pisol is just plain awesome.

Also, in this episode and last weeks, the aliens' home planet had somehow disapeared. Maybe that's the event connecting the episodes for this season?

I say the Medusa Cascade had something to do with that. It was mentioned during the Master's talk with the Doctor last season.

And we totally need a gif of the Doctor threatening with the water gun.

Overall, I thought it was a decent episode, if just a bit slow in the beginning. Also, I would have liked the ending a lot more if the Doctor had decided to not go back for that family, but seeing it was based a bit on the series of books I previously mentioned I guessed he had to do what he did. 3/5

Actually... that might tie in with those... Sontarans, is it? that seem to cause trouble this season. Wiping out the homeworlds of other races seems to be their style. Also, so pumped for the ood next episode.

So I guess that was the first stinker of the season.

Bad characterisation. Bad acting from everybody's part. A cliché villain who doesn't work at all, unlike the gorgeous Mrs. Foster. Stupid premise. Not scary at all. Bad effects too. Its only good point was the soundtrack, which by now is something we can expect from Doctor Who.

Two out of five. It's not downright unwatchable, but it certainly disappointed. At least next week's seems to be way more interesting, and hey Martha's back!!

Edit: Great episode. Loved it. 3/5 though, because I just liked the antics and not so much the plot by itself. I'll rate it accordingly next week.

Edit2: This episode was really weird for me. It started horribly slow and overused every cliché ever, it then picked up in the middle with a horrible and questionable solution (in the sense of non-sensical regarding its consequences) for the gas cloud (although very pretty), and the last part became overwhelmed with bad editing (just look at the conversation where the Doctor implies he's going to die; there's lots of weird pauses that cannot be taken for careful contemplation of the horror ahead of the characters).

I really don't know what to think. The premise was stupid, the acting felt very staged at times, it had a wannabe-Joker villain who at least was humanised a bit, the plot was cringeworthy most of the time, yet all of that made it a laugh-inducing fest that I enjoyed. The fact that it felt like it was taking itself so seriously made it comical in a good sense.

3/5, if just for the lolz. I'm still waiting for something that redeems this season though. That Partners in Crime can be considered the high point of this series by this point makes me very worried. There's seriously something missing from this series that was present in the last three, and that is charm.

So what are your opinions on this eagerly awaited two-parter?

P.S. The finale better not take place in present-day Earth, goddamnit. And for God's sake if humanity ever again faces a threat that encompasses the whole of the world they better show the species to be less stupid.

If I ever see the whole Doctor prepares to sacrifice himself, but wait! the bad guy, who is really a good guy but jut misguided sacrifices him/herself for him! I just... don't know what I'll do.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com...36&postcount=4 - I thought some people might like this. Short scene written to have the seventh take Tennant's place in season 3's finale.

http://new-brunette.livejournal.com/379679.html

Someone who managed to be at the set when filming "The Poison Sky" :D

This makes me wonder just how a fight between the Seventh Doctor and the Third may end up. One has the brains while the other has the brawn. It would be interesting.

Mr. Grandpa Hobo is the best minor character ever.

So, The Doctor's Daughter:

This episode was far better than it deserved to be. A Mary Sue was introduced to a script that was completely hammed by everyone (this was going to be David Tennant's best performance yet? Seriously?) and an overtly simplistic plot that hammered you with its themes.

Yet I loved it. Georgia Moffet was gorgeous, even if her character was the epitome of cliché femme fatales, and though her death didn't spark any kind of feeling in me, she was great for a few laughs. Plus, she wasn't fucking Astrid. The Hath (or however the hell you spell that) were greatly designed, although Martha's friend's death was pointless and way overreacted. However, the story was interesting (although nothing original) and the plot twist was, though common, genuinely out of nowhere.

Overall, I liked it. It hasn't redeemed this season, but at least it has encouraged me to watch next week's episode despite my underwhelm with Doctor Who lately. 4/5

P.S. It saddens me that this episode will probably be remembered as a classic for years to come, if only because of the forced emotional garbage and the use of an actual alien planet. It's a good tale, but nothing to really think about. I'll still wait for the first true masterpiece of this season, which likely will come from Moffat (as always), but which I hope manifests itself in the next episode.

P.S.S. This is so obviously leading into the finale. I really don't want to see Georgia Moffet in the series again, but I guess I should prepare myself for disappointment.

P.S.S.S. Who am I kidding? She has quite a nice rack.

I liked everything but the last scene. She should have had more of a regeneration sequence, and there should have been less of that ending.

THIS IS THE BEST NEWS EVER

AND HIS EPISODE IS COMING OUT THIS SATURDAY

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEE

I know. It's...it's beautiful, isn't it? I'd go dance naked in the front yard cackling insanely with joy, but it looks like it's gonna rain.

All I know is I want Sally Sparrow to return.

DO IT MOFFAT!! DO IT!!!

YES, FINALLY SEASON ARCS THAT WILL (hopefully) NOT RELY ON GODS ON MACHINES AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE!!!

This is a happy day to be a Doctor Who fan.

I also like his cheekiness in the interview:

Bless him. He's just that awesome.

What I like about this announcement more than anything is that the series needs a "regeneration" desperately. The reason I haven't been liking this season that much (despite the first and last week's episodes) is that it feels too safe. Everything from the Ood to the Sontaran stories reeks of formulaic, and what drew me into Doctor Who in the beginning was the fact that it was so different from anything else in Telly.

I cannot wait for Moffat's vision of the programme. It's going to be fantastic! A trip of a lifetime, indeed.

Edit: Only reason I'm sad is that I have to wait two fucking years for Moffat's Doctor Who. At least it will keep Tennant in the role for one more season, but God the wait will be painful.

I feel a great disturbance in the force; as if millions of voices are crying out in jubilation, and won't shut up.

Well, two voices.

Two very happy voices.

(I'm so happy, I can hardly contain myself!)

Make that 3!


Very excited about the announcement and looking forward to the next season! I loved the last episode. It was BRILLIANT!

Make that everybody!!


I know! It was comical, and despite the bad CGI it was awesome! I loved the poisoning scene. In fact, I love it when Doctor Who does the unexpected. This one was one of those episodes.

So, silence in the library isn't on today anymore. This gives me great anger. This 3 day weekend is turning out really dissapointing for me, everything seems to be turning to fail.:gonk:

Still, at least Moffat will one day control the Who, so that's good.

you've just GOT to see the unicorn and the wasp.

love conquers all, but I'm not saying any more then that, or I'd have to spoiler tag it.

SILENCE IN THE LIBRARY


First reactions: Meh.
Second reactions: But the good sort of meh.
Final reactions: Holy shit. FUCK FUCK FUCK I'M NOT GOING TO BE NEAR A TV NEXT WEEKEND, HOW WILL I LIVE?

Ooh... that stings. Good episode, but it really accelerated to amazing for the end.

Yeah, it was good, but not as good as it was hyped to be. I think that's mostly due to having a few too many unanswered questions at the end of the first part though, so hopefully the conclusion next week will make everything make sense in some sort of awesome fashion.

Anyone got any theories on things? Like who's that girl in the past and how is she linked to the Library? Who's the sinsiter Dr Moon? And what might this CAL(?) be?

I'm thinking CAL is the girls name, which is cleverly worked into meaning Computer Assisted Library, or some way of tying her in like that cleverly. Just a guess, but it seems the sort of thing that would happen.

I think you may be right 42; if Cal is the girl, then the girl is actually an AI, which would explain Moon telling her that what she thinks is reality is not real. She's a malfunctioning computer, who's having delusions of being a young girl and doesn't know what's real any more. If this is true then Moon might just be some sort of self-correcting program trying to repair the damage.

It's like the Matrix in reverse!

At least that's now my theory anyway.

Or maybe she's designed to act like a person in running the library, but her dad is some sort of computer virus that controls her. I think the... shadow things are incidentally related to the problem, or at least controlled by something greater.

This was actualy kind of a boring episode for me. Maybe I just look at these things to much as something someone has written, but the whole thing felt more like that statues episode last season 'Part 2!'. The enemy is the same sort of deal (Assasins that move when your not looking/flesh eating microbiesomesuch things in the dark), and the way they act seems inconsitant (Ok, so light weakens them, but they can make their own mysterious moving shadows, so what's the problem? Why not just eat everyone when you find them? At least in Blink it took a while after I'd seen the epside for me to realise that quantitive states don't depend on someone looking at them). The doctor clearly works out what the problem is as soon as he hears about the shadows, but doesn't tell anyone, 'cuase he's a jerk, I guess?

And hey, look! A new version of Timey Wimey Ball! Except this time instead of the Doctor helping someone who he's met but hasn't met him (with added time loop bonus, woo!), this time he's *being* helped by someone who's met him, but he hasn't met himself (anyone wanna give me odds on another time loop at the end of it all?).

Seriously, I know Moffat wrote both episodes, so some similarities can be expected, but this feels like he just took a very sucessful episode and changed a few key details to try and replicate it.



Oooon the other hand maybe I'm being to harsh and just looking for similarites. And maybe I've spent to much time on tvtropes.com. They were right, it does ruin your life.

That's definitely too much tvtropes.

I'm personally wondering about two things after seeing SITL:

1) 4022 Saved - No Survivors. Saved = saved in terms of a file save? This could explain the whole aspect thing.
2) Keep going back to soothsayer stone arm - "There's something on your back". Spine?

I think that's vague enough not to be spoilers but enough to show what I'm trying to indicate.
Also: good god, how long did it take people to realize the whole River Song thing? It's pretty straight forward, personal timelines and all that.
Got to love how Moffat has turned innocent phrases into creepy things e.g. "Are you my mummy?".

Well, that was pretty satisfying, in my opinion.

Called it.

Also, the next episode needs a Snakes on a Plane reference.

May I say that was more epic than any of the finales so far? Because that was more epic than any of the finales so far. Though I guessed correctly what River had whispered to the Doctor, it was packed of fuck awesome. 5/5

And you were right. Get a cookie!

ZOMG CHRISTMAS PICS!! THE BADDIES ARE REVEALED!!

Ok, so, despite my complaints about last week, I enjoyed this one. I wonder if that's how it's going to be for two parters from now on. I unfortunatly missed the first 10 mins or so, but meh.

Still, aparently I'm a critic now, so here's what I can't make sense of. Beware, both spoilers and cranky old-in-spirit guy ramblings:



The stupid girls inteligence boost: Ok, I can see this happening, just, given the explination, but it would have to be more complicated than her "IQ moving a decimel place". Why would the computer even record her IQ? It's aparently got her whole *mind* in there, so it just decides to assign her an obsolete and very useless classification? And think about it. *becuase it got it wrong, she's suddenly one of the smartest peopel you'll ever meet. Ok. Think about that for a second. This technologys been available for over a century, and yet you still get idiots like her wandering around? As a personal assistant to a rich buisness man? Riiiiight...

Small point number 2: Helmets. Why did most of them take them off, again? Ok, this I might have missed, I admit, and it's not like they did much for other Dave anyway. Still though...

Number 3: I didn't like the girl. She was crazy and stupid, which'll put me off any character really.

... Oh fine, fine, it all got explained and it wasn't her fault, but still!

Real number 3: Nice thing! I liked what they did with the corporate guys character. He's not a greedy bastard willing to put lives on the line to protect his patent, he's protecting a little girl. Brilliant!... No, really. Stop with the looks.

5: Donna was useless. That is disapointingly all.

6: CAL isn't an AI. Didn't see that coming, well done Moffat.

Oh, and quick number 7: Did anyone not see the woman dying at the end coming? Still, it was very nicely done, and a good wrap up. And the name thing was interesting. I guess that's going to be something to look out for in the finale. Not that we don't already have a loooong list already.



So, yeah. I liked it. Looking forward to the next episode.

But Terra, I'm afraid that all of it combined doesn't quite manage to beat The Master dancing to 'I can't decide'. Sorry (No, that really didn't need spoiler brackets, but again, meh).

It's probably just a synapse that suddenly got in the right place during the misfiling of her data. It's not that difficult to fathom. Remember this is sci-fi and sci-fi is just a fancy word for "magic".

Because they're pretty people (except for the fat guy, who had the helmet off so we could compare him to the pretty people). :p

I actually liked her subplot a lot. It was a bit irrelevant, but it gave her a lot of character that I imagine may come or not into piece during the finale. And if it doesn't, well, poop I guess. At least she seems a bit more well-rounded than before.

Wait, you were expecting/wanting her to be one? Occam's razor too much mayhaps?

But she did die. :( She didn't die thematically (as in "our loved ones live on forever in the pages of a diary/the structures of a hard disk"), but she did stop living. I imagine Moffat included the "everybody lives" line just to make the audience feel a bit more cheerful (and, again, to meld together with the theme of the story, which includes her legacy living on in the Doctor's soul so that he reaches her one day and continues their story in a timey-wimey loop forever).

Leaving aside that you just called me a girl, all the Master did last season was awesome until the last episode. Then it stopped being epic and became stupid.*

So, still more epic.

*I will admit it wasn't the Master's fault that the story went downhill, but rather RTD's fascination on making the Doctor a godlike figure with absolutely no foreshadowing at all. In any case, the plot did suffer and the resolution was so cringeworthy that all the epicness from the buildup disappeared in a puff of lameness.

I honestly liked Donna's subplot less, if only because it was inexplicably 21st century britain. I mean, they had all these crazy possibilities to mess with in a virtual world, and they decided to go with that? For shame.

I mean, it would be different if the reality was subjective or something, or if CAL had a fondness for books in that era or something, but the lack of explanation for it just bugs me.

Sci-fi Lesson number 1: It's always an AI. Always.

Well, yeah, but refusing to regenerate had it's charms.

Also, Your avatar ain't helping your case buddy. But I get the feeling you get that alot

@Steel Shadow:
To be fair the final arc of the previous series *was* the final arc after all so it was meant to be pretty epic and climactic so having that sort of comparison to a mid series ep isn't really too fair. It does have to be said though, that particular one has to have been my favourite plot so far.

@Ryu Van Burace
I agree. Tera did not. I was merely pointing out how incredibly wrong he was. Then he went and made a good point and ruined my argument, for which I am bitter. But that's no change really.

You know, many people in the "geek" forums tend to hate the filler, not so serious RTD written episodes. Me? I had fun with this filler. Filler is nice every once in a while.

But yeah, another Dalek finale? Booo!! Not that it wasn't obvious, but still, BOOO!!

Not sure about this episode. It had some good points and some bad points, I guess. I liked it at the begining, but after a while it got kind of annoying, and then the ending came out of nowhere for a big ol' dose of anti-climax. The characters seemed to bounce all over the characterisation spectrum, though I suppose there was a reason for that. I think. ( I mean really, what the heck was that thing and why was it so insitant on killing the first person who wanted to help it? And why couldn't any of those people just *shut up* for 5 minuets?) All in all I'm just left with a small feeling of what-the-hell-did-I-just-watch, but it wasn't bad. The Doctors line at the end had alot more meaning than it usualy does, that was a nice touch.

The bit where Rose apeared for a second or two got a few chuckles. And next week looks very interesting. But if there's a Darlek I will have to stab things.

I just watched Dr. Who for the first time today and I have to say you guys were right about it. For starters the Doctor discovered that a chain of dissapearing children was caused by one child that had been possessed by a space alien because it was lonely, and that by drawing pictures of them she could cause them to dissapear into another world for its company. In the end they accidentally re-summoned the girl's dead father, somehow, who tried to kill them but was defeated by the power of their singing in unison.

Who writes this? The best thing I can think of to compare it to is a turd full of LSD. Sure its crappy and it sucks but HOLY CRAP ALIENS AND LASERS!

...you just watched pretty much the worst episode of the series. Don't judge the programme because of that one. Believe me, the standard quality of it is kilometres ahead of Fear Her.

Yeah Megaman, go and watch the episodes Aliens of London/World War Three, Dalek, Fathers Day, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Bad Wolf, Tooth and Claw, The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit, Army of Ghosts/Doomsday, The Shakespear Code, 42, Blink and Midnight.

They're my personal favourites from these last 4 seasons, although there are others which are also really good. But Fear Her was definately the worst episode of the entire lot, I'm sorry for you that that was your first viewing of Doctor Who.

I think you misunderstand. This show is amazing. Its the worst thing I've ever seen yet I can't stop watching.

Hey, I was watching the 2 that happen with the Timberflame (or something like that) labs and the cybermen and the OTHER evil aliens and I missed the last 10 minutes of the show because I was on the toilet. Did the blond chick ever get back into the normal world, or did she stay in the other dimension to be replaced with someone else at the start of the seeason that followed?

EDIT: I said this was my first, but I slighlty lied. About a year ago I saw another one when I was home sick from school, where a kid and a billion of his clones were wearing gas masks and looking for his/their/its/bwah's mommy. I didn't count that one because I had a fever at the time and would have thought ANYTHING was entertaining.

Does not compute.

If you mean Torchwood, and the episode involving the Cybermen, Daleks and Rose, then that would be Doomsday, my favourite of the season finales, then no and yes. Companions change every few seasons, just like the Doctor himself, she leaves the show in that episode for a season, but she's coming back in saturdays episode.

The gas mask zombies episode was The Empty Child/Doctor Dances, which I've already said was amazing. Go and watch it again.

EDIT; What? I liked those episodes, they had some good humour.

I have to admit I could not contain my laughter when I saw the Daleks on their way out of the Timelord artifact to go fight the Cybermen and enslave earth.

Its pure comedy gold, and the worst part is, I don't think its even supposed to be.

EDIT: I've decided that Dr Who (the character) is a futuristic McGyver from space, and that Dr Who (The Show) is a futuristic outer space version of Dr McNinja.

Wait, you're watching them out of order? I guess it's alright, but a lot of the arcs lose a lot of impact if you do that. Go search Rose and go upstream from there.

I know you're praising the Doctor and all, but seriously, Doctor Who (the show) is nothing like Dr. McNinja (the comic). Try watching them a bit more.

Its not like the comic in that it doesn't try to be completely outrageous (meaning that plot devices revolve around alien robots from space instead of Ben Franklin), but it is about as high on the list of extremely strange things I've seen in my lifetime.

And what do you mean "search for Rose", is there somewhere I can watch these on TV? All I can see is rerun on Scifi and I don't have the money for a DVD set.

I'm pretty sure you could watch every Doctor Who episode in Sci-Fi's webpage. I don't know if that feature is still available, and for some reason I cannot access their site since I'm out of the country. If not, then I guess it is re-runs for you. :(

All the episodes that have aired in the UK so far this season are on You Tube. I would guess the other seasons are too.

Also, Blink = Pretty much the best episode of anything anywhere.

Or, alternatively, Megaman, you could seek out some of the classic series of Doctor Who, which doesn't have Rose Tyler in it at all, making it infinitely better than just about anything you could see in New Who! (Well, maybe "Dalek" except for one thing which constitutes kind of a spoiler for poor Megaman so I can't get my RIGTHEOUS NERD RAEG!1!!!11!1!! on just now. Oh, and maybe "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" if you tune out everything with Rose and Jack.)

But seriously--or at any rate less frivolously--classic Who is awesome. "Image of the Fendahl", "The Pirate Planet", "The Brain of Morbius", "The Pirate Planet", "Masque of Mandragora", "City of Death", "The Pirate Planet"...those are all top-notch stories, in my own opinion--and all just from one Doctor (the Fourth, who's played the Doctor the longest)! Oh, and also "The Pirate Planet", in case I didn't mention it before =P . Douglas Adams wrote it, and it features one of the bestest of the Doctor's assistants in the whole of evar (see: my avatar).