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Paris officials douse the flame five times in a day: The Olympic ideals Vs. China?
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...lay/index.html
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I think we can all agree that the momentary stop to the burning of the torch is a sad event. While it's true that this is not the first time something like this has happened, the whole situation has made me doubt about how far should one take an opinion in order to voice it. I'm of the opinion that this event should stick to its athletic principles first and foremost, as it is a celebration for athletes, after all. Do you believe it is worth it to mess with the Olympic ideals for something that the Chinese government will be very unlikely to change? Didn't really consider this to be Discussion worthy. |
at first i though that the Olympics in China would be great and a fun event, maybe it could even help to open the eyes fo the world to see china beyond the cliche; And help China to see the world beyond the blindfold...
But everyday now i fear that this is going to be a bad idea... really, i dont think that the Olympic Games well be a show for "people" this time... it will be a simple Sports exibithion amongst the people who participate in it. There is a great chance of Protests on each and every single event and ceremony... banners, Shirts, Flags with messages... things could get violent easily. Tv is controled and people will only see what they want us to see. Those who protest are using the Olympics as a weapon to raise their voicesagainst china. Claiming that "now is the time" and that they "Dont deserve to host the Olympic spirit". At some level they are right... and at deeper levels they can be majorly wrong with the way they are choosing to do it. I dont know man... but i'm already watching this Olympic Games for the news and riots rather than the Sports. And that's a bad thing |
If it's strictly a celebration for athletes what are all the sponsorship deals and broadcasting licenses doing in it?
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EDIT: In fact, part of why there are protests probably are the Olympic ideals, or what protesters perceive them to be. "Don't deserve to host the Olympic spirit" sounds pretty spot-on to me though, even though it's not quite logically conclusive. I do wish there were similar protests when there aren't any Olympic games around the corner though, whether the subject is China or any other not-quite-trustworthy state. It's not a good thing when people only come out and protest when there's TV cameras. |
where is the Torch going after Paris?
Just to get some foreshadowing on this mess... |
The torch passed through London with a lot of protest. Perhaps not as bad as Paris since it didn't have to be extinguished, but still a lot of people trying to grab it off the celebrities and other such things. When I watched the news report about the goings on, it seems none of this is reported in China. Not a single person the BBC asked on the Chinese streets had heard about the protests in London, their news report only showed them the bits with no protestors.
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But I think Meister hit the nail pretty hard right here: Quote:
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i just saw that the next stop of the Torch is in San Francisco, and there are already Protests waiting for its arrival.
I just hope that things dont to get too messy. Sure, it's 100% right to say that the Olympics get second place when compared to the situation in Tibet... But you know how people get... if things start to esclate from what happened on Paris, it's just going to be too much of a mess |
I have odd views on China and Tibet but I'll leave those aside for the purposes of this and assume someone who wants to make a stand against China and its human right abuses.
Well I think back to boycott of the Moscow games. The boycott didn't actually hurt Moscow that much, what was really damaging was the countries who did go. They brought with them a vast amount of media who couldn't all be controlled and the extent of economic problems of the USSR became very transparent. A similar thing happened with the apartheid sporting bans on South Africa. In addition going to the games is a good way to establish a bit of communication with the country and a bit of good will which can then be parlanced into negotiations and things. |
My problem with china is the International Midia going there to cover the events in a country were the they are publicly open about censorship on transmissions.
THAT is a sore spot that could cause major trouble if people try to do stuff like "boo" Chinese athletes or Antemn and of course, protests During, before and after games being filmed by international midia... |
But that's kind of the point. You can't censor a huge media contigent.
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