The Warring States of NPF - Smash Bros Brawl Extravaganza Part 4

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Being totally fair, it's mostly because Smash Bros - according to Sakurai himself - was never meant to be competitive.

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

Being totally fair, it's mostly because Smash Bros - according to Sakurai himself - was never meant to be competitive.

This is probably because "Competetive" seems to connect with "Tournament" to some people, and "Tournament" is all too close to "Congregation of fat nerds that do absolutely nothing but this, scream HAX whenever they're beaten, and scream at their own mothers when they are expected to do homework instead of pleasuring themselves to images of Zero Suit Samus".

Not ALL tournament players are like this, just the ones that win.

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Originally Posted by Megaman FTW

No offense, but I'm reasonably sure you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Loyal2NES

No offense, but I'm reasonably sure you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

No offense, but I'm reasonably sure you're fortunate enough not to know the people that I know.

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

Goddamn fucking tripping. I know they only put it in to avoid Foxtrotting (Which, hey, got specifically named and recreated in Brawl anyway) being used like crazy but god, I hate tripping.

what causes tripping by the way?

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Originally Posted by mudah.swf

If other fighting game players can just stick with a previous game then why can't the Smash scene? People hated the fuck out of games like Third Strike and DOA 4 but I don't see anyone wanting to hack those games to remove parrying or change the counter system. Maybe it's because they're playing almost a different genre with only 3 games in it, all of them Smash Bros.

Basically why can't Brawl be competitive in its own way? Why does it have to be like Melee?

there are a few others, like jump super/ultimate stars. Love that game

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Originally Posted by Aerozord

what causes tripping by the way?

Nobody really knows. It probably is caused by a really small random variable cause by just moving the stick. It's still idiotic.

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Originally Posted by Aerozord

there are a few others, like jump super/ultimate stars. Love that game

Where can I buy it? I'm really interested in kicking arse using Kenshin Himura.

Well I got Jump Ultimate Stars while I was in Japan. It conviently came out at that time. I did however get the original game off of amazon.com so I'd assume the sequel is there too.

just be sure to give me your friend code when you get it so I can beat the crap out of you (ultimate is wi-fi)

I hate when you and another player are both getting beaten by the third... and the second player decides to keep attacking YOU. What part of "you cannot possibly win first place if you attack me and not him" don't you get, Mr. Second Player?

It's like watching Spectator matches. I was hooked on them at first, winning tons of coins from my logical choices... but eventually the players online started getting dumber, and I always ended up picking some complete morons who managed to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

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Originally Posted by Me in Spectator mode

Battlefield
[Falco] and [Snake] vs [Ganondorf] and [Yoshi]
[omgjackpot bet 1000]

Me: Holy shit this is going to be such a massacre
READY... GO!
Me: Uh Falco why did you run right into Ganondorf's side-special
snake
snake what are you punching
stop punching the air snake
you're not even facing the right direction
oh god a smash ball this match is already over get it falco
falco
falco
falco
falco
what the fuck are you doing falco
no don't grab the fucking bob-omb on the other side of the stage you dumbass
the SMASH BALL GET THE SMASH BALL IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU
FINE USE THE BOB-OMB TO BREAK THE SMASH BALL
SNAKE STOP GETTING TURNED INTO AN EGG AND DO SOMETHING WHAT THE SHIT
...and falco lets the bob-omb explode in his hand
ganondorf just got the smash ball
ganondorf just killed falco
okay falco you've respawned go kill yoshi
yoshi's like 300% and snake is just running around rolling and he just jumped off the stage for no reason and died
no falco
bad falco don't attack ganondorf while he's armed with a cracker launcher
kill fucking yoshi, he's right there, just one hit and he's dead you dumbarse
what the fuck are you doing
yes attack yoshi
no don't do a side-b off the stage
wait where did snake go
snake stop taunting
snake ganondorf is charging his up tilt stop taunting
jesus christ snake

GAME

At least I got two super-common stickers as a consolation prize.

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Where can I buy it? I'm really interested in kicking arse using Kenshin Himura.

Get it from Play-Asia, that's where I got my copy. Just so you know it isn't at all meant to be played seriously or competitively so don't take it too seriously.

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No offense, but I'm reasonably sure you're fortunate enough not to know the people that I know.

No, no no no. I'm pretty sure Loyal is right about this one. I don't know what joke you were trying to make but tournament Smashing is more about finding the right character that fits your playing style and working with their technique to overcome opponents. Saying that tournament players are somehow more immature than the average Smasher is, well, wrong.

And as a quasi-tournament player myself (or rather an aspiring one who lives in the middle of nowhere) I'd prefer if we didn't sling mud. We've gone through it in the past and it does little except bring down Smash Bros threads by Meister.

Having said thus.

Tripping is caused by a random number variable that is completely irrelevant to anything other than the character you're playing. I know that Marth trips more often than Captain Falcon, for example. Usually quicker characters trip more often (ZSamus, Marth, Cap, Sheik, and the like) while heavier characters almost never trip (Bowser, DK, Ganondorf, etc).

I know it's somehow supposed to be a balance point but Christ it's annoying and dumb.