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Kerensky287 05-19-2008 11:30 PM

"MGS4 is not the last Metal Gear"; fans totally called it
 
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“Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots” is finished, announced series creator Hideo Kojima at Konami’s press conference in San Francisco last week.

The last adventure of Solid Snake is almost ready for gamers. It’s been a long time coming — more than four years of development — but on June 12, “MGS4″ will finally become a reality on PlayStation 3s worldwide.

Fans can stop worrying, though; this isn’t the last “Metal Gear,” explained associate producer Ryan Payton in an interview with MTV Multiplayer. “I think there’s been some misconceptions that this is the last ‘Metal Gear,’” said Payton. “This is really just the last chapter of the saga of the Solid Snake story.”

But if this is Snake’s story, what’s up with the inclusion of Altair’s costume from “Assassin’s Creed”? And how did Kojima get Ubisoft and Konami to cooperate?

“The “Assassin’s Creed” costume was one of the last things we put in the game,” he said. “It was kind of a last minute thing [and] we were really lucky enough to have Ubisoft be so enthusiastic about this kind of cooperation. They worked overtime to get that costume into the game.”

Assassin's CreedKojima and “Assassin’s Creed” producer Jade Raymond were introduced at E3 last year. The two met again during Tokyo Game Show and a mutual admiration for each other’s work blossomed. Discussions started about a collaboration. This turned into Altier’s costume being a bonus in “MGS4″ at the last second.

“Normally, we don’t do that,” said “MGS4″ producer Ken Imaizumi.

“It’s very dangerous because of the code and bug checking,” added Payton.

As top-tier third-party publishers, Konami and Ubisoft are technically in competition with one another. I wondered how Kojima and Raymond managed to convince their respective employers to find a way to make this creative exchange work.

“I think it’s a testament to the Ubisoft Montreal team,” said Payton. “Ubisoft — which is a very dynamic company — I just don’t see them getting stuck in all that red tape. Rather than try to figure out some royalty sharing it was ‘let’s just do this, this’ll be fun.’”

Fun aside, now that “MGS4″ is completed, Kojima finds himself at the juncture he’s talked about for years. Kojima can finally create a game that doesn’t have Solid Snake at the helm. But with his iconic character out of the picture, Kojima has effectively removed a safety net for the future.

“[Solid Snake] was a burden [for Kojima] because of all those loose ends,” said Payton. “So when you play “Metal Gear Solid 4″ and when you get to the end, I think you’re going to feel that ‘wow, this is a nice closure.’ All of the weird stuff that’s gone on in the past, it’s all coming to an end. All those weird questions — everything is answered.”

But, c’mon, Kojima has famously said he’s putting Solid Snake behind him before. Payton said Kojima is adamant about moving on, even if it’s uncharted territory.

“I think he is kind of nervous about it,” he said. “You can’t continue from this step. You can’t start next chapter. We really do close up the story.”

Next month, we’ll find out how Kojima pulls it off.
So it's the end of the Snake chapters, but not the end of MGS... does that mean that we will get a new character?

Also, the Assassin's Creed stuff. Very neat.

I wonder if the two subjects have any relation... :D

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Also I guess this is a new MGS4 thread if necessary.

Seil 05-19-2008 11:32 PM

Metal Gear Solid V: Solid Raiden

Kerensky287 05-19-2008 11:34 PM

Oh god I hope you're wrong. I mean, yeah, Kojima said that we wouldn't hate Raiden this time, but... well, I can't help but disbelieve him.

All we've seen of Raiden so far is that he's suddenly a ninja. Hopefully he will have a personality other than "Stab". Hopefully said personality will not be the same as in MGS2. Both of those hopes seem a little too far-fetched for me.

I still want to see Metal Gear Solid 5: Desmond from Assassin's Creed.

Regulus Tera 05-19-2008 11:46 PM

A series that generates millions of dollars isn't actually going to completely end?

Big surprise there.

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287
Also I guess this is a new MGS4 thread if necessary.

You bitch. :stressed:

Bells 05-19-2008 11:56 PM

well, in a sense, MGS is Kojima's "final fantasy" By getting rid of the main character he can explore with much more freedom his universe with new characters and points of view.

However, any MGS game that dosent have snake in it will have so god damn big shoes to fill after MGS4 (pretty much every reviewr that got time with it said it is nothing less than amazing)

Magus 05-19-2008 11:58 PM

C'mon, Kojima, we already know what happens after Metal Gear Solid 4, it's all right here.

They should probably come up with another character besides Raiden, I haven't played MGS4 yet but he seems to have become an android/cyborg, without human blood, and he really wouldn't seem like a "fresh" face or story, just a continuation of the same old Patriots thing.

Really, again, not having played MGS4, I assume the whole Patriots thing is wrapped up and done with, or I HOPE SO. Time for new Free Mason-esque society to begin and/or other conspiracy.

EDIT: Actually, screw it, just let me play as Big Boss some more or Solidus Snake or Liquid Snake in their younger days, whatever. Just don't let it suck, Kojima.

Regulus Tera 05-19-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bellsouth Minion
well, in a sense, MGS is Kojima's "final fantasy" By getting rid of the main character he can explore with much more freedom his universe with new characters and points of view.

However, any MGS game that dosent have snake in it will have so god damn big shoes to fill after MGS4 (pretty much every reviewr that got time with it said it is nothing less than amazing)

I doubt Kojima will ever go back to Metal Gear. He has already spent twenty years of his life with it. All I really want is for him to work on more stand-alone titles to keep his mind fresh. Snatcher and Policenauts proved that he can do so much more than military conspiracy.

Regarding the new Metal Gears, I'm fine as long as it becomes a smaller budget, one team affair. I miss the rest of Konami's Japanese teams.

Seil 05-20-2008 12:07 AM

I seem to remember making a MGS: Wii thread a while ago.

Mirai Gen 05-20-2008 04:14 AM

Holy crap, Hideo Kojima is a liar!

WHO EVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED!?

NOT ME, NOT I GOOD SIR!

God damn it Hideo, stop saying stupid shit.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 05-20-2008 04:57 AM

Erm, I was always under the impression that this was the last Snake story, but not the last MGS. I think everyone's a little behind the times.


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