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Inbred Chocobo 05-26-2008 11:20 AM

Rumble: Mafia edition
 
Before we start, let me say a few things. First off, no one is allowed to communicate outside the thread unless otherwise stated. Okay? Okay. Also, remember that no actions will be revealed publicly, but the result of those actions will be known. Such as if Call a Hit is used on a person, that person knows he has a Hit coming his way. Town, your goal is to kill off every member of the mafia, good luck.

1.) Moogle0119 81
2.) Rokrin 31
3.) secretskull 95
4.) Ecurt DEAD, Mafian.
5.) Doppler12 80
6.) Demetrius 58
7.) Tophat 63
8.) Silly Kitty 52
9.) bananarama 57
10.) Arhra 85
11.) Cati 23
12.) DarthMauler64 60

Oh, before we actually start actions, Demetrius, You may now choose who you are hijacking. Once he has done that, then the game shall continue.

As the town gathered around to start the bickering, everyone noticed Ecurt was gone. Then they heard screaming that was a bit unnerving. They ran towards the scource. Demetrius stood their, having basically mind-rapped Ecurt, and absorbing the last bit of him into himself. Demetrius smiled as the town approached him. "You will all be glad to know, Ecurt just happened to be George, Gambling Policeman Wannabe, Mafia Aligned." Then he frowned a bit. "However I lost the other names in the process of ripping his mind away from him.

bananarama 05-27-2008 12:46 AM

Oh hell yes I got all the powers I wanted! Bonus!

Truce 05-27-2008 01:32 AM

First night death even in a rumble game...

You'd better use my body well, Demetrius!

Demetrius 05-27-2008 09:46 AM

You better believe it, although I doubt I'll last long after doing that.

Arhra 05-28-2008 08:40 AM

Hmm, I wonder what the roles in this game are.

There's definately less than five mafiates though - the town would be completely screwed if there were that many. I'm guessing three (one quarter of players), but it could be two. Not sure if there's a serial killer and cult role. The small number of players suggests no cult.

secretskull 05-28-2008 10:08 AM

The real question is if the special roles, (Mafia, vig), get additional abilities.

Demetrius 05-28-2008 12:25 PM

I would hope that there is no cult in such a small game.

Moogle0119 05-28-2008 12:51 PM

I might as well do this now so we can further narrow down our list of suspects....

Roleclaim: McTowny, the Town aligned player who really is Town aligned

All town roles that attack me will only have 50% effectiveness against me while I gain an extra 10 for defense. I seriously doubt that Demetrius is Mafia, why would a mafiate go out and kill one of their own? I hope this helps.

secretskull 05-29-2008 12:52 AM

Ummmm... Moogle?

Quote:

Totally Not Scum: If you have a town role, you take half damage from townie attacks. If you are not a town role, you register as a town role to detection abilities and may loudly proclaim your innocence in the thread, increasing your defense for that turn by 10.
The extra 10 for defense is for the scum roles... And only if they loudly proclaim their innocense in the thread... Which you just did.

Suspicious much?

Moogle0119 05-29-2008 01:05 AM

Aww shit...

Arhra 05-29-2008 07:39 AM

I was a genius to invent that power.

secretskull 05-29-2008 08:59 AM

Is it Mass-Murder time?

Demetrius 05-29-2008 11:17 AM

Do we send in powers against him or vote?

secretskull 05-29-2008 11:30 AM

We just attack the bugger. I suppose we could coordinate it if we don't want to waste energy, but the other mafia members could easily screw that up.

Cati 05-30-2008 03:42 PM

*dies laughing*

Moogle0119 05-30-2008 03:54 PM

I doubt anyone will believe me but I misread my power's abilities and thought I gained both benefits when I'm not scum. Anyway I sent in my turn just defending, town please don't waste your turn killing me off.

Arhra 05-31-2008 06:16 AM

Hmm, we've not heard a peep out of a third of the people in this game yet. This could get messy if we don't hear stuff from them - I'm a little worried about lurkers in such a small game.

Wasn't there some rule against lurking?

secretskull 05-31-2008 06:48 AM

In regular mafia games, there is. I suppose we could enforce it here. But really, all we can do is attack the lurkers, and I'm not sure that is very wise. This game isn't big enough for us to be wasting time on that.

Arhra 05-31-2008 07:34 AM

Well, that's the problem. If they don't interact, we have trouble judging who to attack. Fortunately most of them are on lowish energy, so the threat's reduced at least.

Cati 05-31-2008 05:23 PM

Good point -- I guess it depends if we're playing this more as a rumble game or a mafia game. I was playing as rumble (where nobody really posts) but it makes sense to do this like mafia. Okay.

As for Moogle -- well, I am tempted to believe him that it was just a mistake (his roleclaim name sounds real enough), and I can see how easy it would be to misread it. But... I'm a little suspicious about how it took so long for him to defend himself -- I mean, if it were me and I misread it, then I would point that out as soon as possible. The way it is now, it just kind of looks like he came up with a reason why he'd do that, you know?

But he has a very good point in that we aren't likely to kill him this time. He's using 81 energy for defense (or so he says) and with his power, that will take... 162 regular damage to get past it? So that would be... 324 regular damage to kill him? Tell me if I'm completely misinterpreting here. But if this is true, he DOES have a good point, scum or not scum -- it might be in our best interests to let him go for now, or better yet, only target him with unstoppable damage, because regular attacks just aren't going to cut it. Also, there is a chance that he might be harmless this turn (which means maybe we could focus on somebody else), especially if he's putting all energy toward protecting himself, but then again, he might have some other powers that can attack without spending/burning energy. It's hard to judge with that High Stakes power. :P

Edit: Aha, nevermind, I also misinterpreted Moogle's power. Let me look through it again. That's if Moogle's a townie -- if he's scum, then... let's see. Oh! Then he would have a defense of 91, and it would take 91 regular damage to get past it, 91 + 81... 172 regular damage to kill him. That's a MUCH more sane number, but can we do that? Actually, if we did focus a lot of attacks on him and it didn't touch him, that would show him as a townie. If it does, then it would mean he's scum. Hmm... Perhaps tomorrow if Moogle attackers announce how much they attacked Moogle for, we could figure this out.

My brain hurts.

Tophat 05-31-2008 05:30 PM

Or he might spend 0 on defence knowing that we all think it's pointless to attack him! WIFOM bitches!

Moogle0119 05-31-2008 05:32 PM

It took me a while to defend myself because I usually post when I'm at work (during the week) and it's been pretty busy. Despite that though, I actually know of a good way for everyone to prove they're town status. If you attack me for 2 and I only take 1 then it proves you're town aligned. However if I end up taking the full 2 damage it means you're not town aligned. For an easy town win I'd suggest everyone who is town-aligned to attack me for 2 energy. Obviously the mafia won't do this and they'll instead use some unblockable attack on me though or if they don't believe my claim then when the round is done it will show that they're 2 energy actually did 2 instead of 1.

Anyway just a thought.

Cati 05-31-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moogle0119 (Post 790993)
Despite that though, I actually know of a good way for everyone to prove they're town status. If you attack me for 2 and I only take 1 then it proves you're town aligned. However if I end up taking the full 2 damage it means you're not town aligned. For an easy town win I'd suggest everyone who is town-aligned to attack me for 2 energy. Obviously the mafia won't do this and they'll instead use some unblockable attack on me though or if they don't believe my claim then when the round is done it will show that they're 2 energy actually did 2 instead of 1.

Anyway just a thought.

It's a great thought, but correct me if I'm wrong though -- if you are using all your energy for defense, it's not going to show up as ANY damage. Also:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo
Also, remember that no actions will be revealed publicly, but the result of those actions will be known.

I'm not sure if we'd be able to sort out that information from what is revealed publicly or not.

Tophat 05-31-2008 05:59 PM

You trying to persuade us not to go through with that plan Cati? I wonder why.......

Arhra 05-31-2008 06:40 PM

Because it doesn't work.

bananarama 06-01-2008 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tophat (Post 791006)
You trying to persuade us not to go through with that plan Cati? I wonder why.......

Trying to point fingers and pin suspicions on reasonable arguments against plans that are doomed to fail? Hmmmm.......

Also, nice try, Moog. But let's face it: you're kinda screwed...

EDIT: In other news, fear not, fellow townies! For I have secured the powers necessary to both uncover the identities of these mafiates! I am a policeman! Do not attack me, attack Demetrius, who is definitely one of the mafiates plaguing our beloved town!

Tophat 06-01-2008 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananarama (Post 791161)
Trying to point fingers and pin suspicions on reasonable arguments against plans that are doomed to fail? Hmmmm.......

Ah but why would I do that, knowing you'd find it suspicious?

Why would I even reply your comment, when it makes me more suspicious?

Find out the answer to all these questions and more in tomorrow's edition of Rumble: The Mafia Years.

secretskull 06-01-2008 05:34 AM

I would find Tophat a bit suspicious if it weren't for the beacon of scumness that is Moogle. His plan reeks of mafia ploy to extend his life. I get the feeling he hoped some people missed the non-public rules of this game.

Cati 06-01-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tophat (Post 791172)
Ah but why would I do that, knowing you'd find it suspicious?

Why would I even reply your comment, when it makes me more suspicious?

Because you want to be attacked, yes?

Edit: Also, bananarama, why'd you pick Demetrius?

Demetrius 06-01-2008 04:45 PM

DO not attack ME! For I am a policeman, attack Bananrama!

bananarama 06-01-2008 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me
I am a policeman! Do not attack me, attack Demetrius, who is definitely one of the mafiates plaguing our beloved town!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dem
DO not attack ME! For I am a policeman, attack Bananrama!

A shocking revelation! Two people with Policeman Bluff? Which one is the real one? And which one will find himself out of his luck? Tune in next time on Rumble: Mafia Edition!

EDIT: Fixed my quote (I screwed up on quoting myself :sweatdrop)

Demetrius 06-01-2008 05:13 PM

You, duh. :D

Oops, EDIT:

Do not attack me, I'm a policeman, attack Bananarama! He's mafia!

bananarama 06-01-2008 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demetrius (Post 791307)
You, duh. :D

Yeah, I agree... I'm the one who really has Policeman Bluff and you're the one who's gonna be out of luck :p

Demetrius 06-01-2008 05:31 PM

No, Ecurt had it.

bananarama 06-01-2008 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demetrius (Post 791320)
No, Ecurt had it.

Lies! Shameless lies that will be uncovered upon the next turn!

Demetrius 06-01-2008 05:42 PM

So who are you trying to save from notice with this act?

bananarama 06-01-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demetrius (Post 791326)
So who are you trying to save from notice with this act?

No one actually. If you are insinutating that I am mafia (which is nonsense) and that I'm trying to protect Moogle, well he is already is as good as confirmed mafia and it'd be a useless gesture to do since unlike in Mafia, we can target multiple people. So yeah I'm just going with my gut feeling, which is telling me that you are the mafia, Dem!

EDIT: And the fact that you are pretending to have Policeman Bluff, confirms it for me!

Moogle0119 06-01-2008 09:46 PM

I can't wait to see each of you doubters eat those words when the turn comes around. Just remember there's no way taking back things you've already said.

Silly Kitty 06-01-2008 10:31 PM

Haha. I forgot this isn't like other Rumble games and I actually have to post!

I'm gonna believe you Moogle! Just because I'm tired to trying to kill you first round all the time.

Moogle0119 06-01-2008 10:52 PM

I don't know whether to be flattered or to restart the rivalry...

Inbred Chocobo 06-03-2008 08:56 PM

1.) Moogle0119 71
2.) Rokrin 31
3.) secretskull 85
5.) Doppler12 70
6.) Demetrius DEAD
7.) Tophat 53
8.) Silly Kitty 50
9.) bananarama DEAD
10.) Arhra DEAD
11.) Cati DEAD
12.) DarthMauler64 DEAD

The arguements grow weary with the day, and soon the Rumblers snuggle in to sleep. Then after about an hour everyone got up and started kicking each other in the rear. However due to the blackness of night, no one was sure what exactly happened, though the results of the midnight brawl was clear over the town.

The body of bananarama Bob, the Gambling Avenger!, Town Aligned was found smack dab in the middle of the aftermath of what can only be described as a slaughter. DarthMauler had apparently been spying on him from a rooftop, as half of him was still on the roof, the other half revealed him to be Smith, The Policeman, Town Aligned.. Cati, who's medkit was obviously trying to heal bananarama revealed that she was simply Tiffany, the Indecisive Doctor, Town Aligned.. It was clear she was not healing anyone anymore. Arhra's corpse, which was lying in some bushes, shown that he was Steve, the Creepy guy in the bushes, Town Aligned. Finally, Demetrius's corpse was found in the bushes. It was clear his goal was to get bananarama killed, and in the end, he payed the ultimate price. A quick search and thinking on his previous actions revealed him to be Mentok, the Mind Taker, Town Aligned.


Rokrin's taxi drove up in the morning. Apparently his flight had been delayed, so he hadn't been around for the first night's slaughterfest. Doppler also found himself in a spot of trouble. As he awoke from his bed, he found a dagger, with trace amounts of dangerous poison still on it. Then he felt the wound on his side were it had hit him. He would have to find and kill whoever had it this day and take the antidote, or else he would be dead.


Okay, round two. Remember town, you trying to kill only the mafians, not everyone.

1.) Moogle0119 71
2.) Rokrin 31
3.) secretskull 85
4.) Doppler12 70
5.) Tophat 53
6.) Silly Kitty 50

Demetrius 06-03-2008 09:05 PM

Wow, we are all jack asses and fell for mafia lurkage.

Truce 06-03-2008 09:20 PM

If it makes you feel any better, I believed in you, Demetrius.

Rokrin 06-03-2008 09:40 PM

Great, I have the lowest energy.

Odds in favor of Silly Kitty being Mafia. Any takers? :p

Cati 06-03-2008 09:42 PM

<deathpost>

Very... impressive. Kill some mafiates, people!

</deathpost>

Rokrin 06-03-2008 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cati (Post 792310)
<deathpost>

Very... impressive. Kill some mafiates, people!

</deathpost>

Yeah, I found it funny that no mafiates died in that little round. XD

secretskull 06-04-2008 12:14 AM

Why? Why isn't moogle dead? This is not the state of affairs we bargained for.

Quite frankly, I blame bananarama for that.

bananarama 06-04-2008 01:12 AM

Oh wow.... my gamble did not work at all :( I feel like such a fucking retard now. Guys, I'm so sorry about this and if town loses, you all can pile the blame and insults on me. I just... I am so retarded..... [/deathpost]

Moogle0119 06-04-2008 01:15 AM

Well it certainly seems like although everyone was publicly giving me shit for being a dumbass yesterday, not much damage was directed my way. Either 20 damage from a townie or 10 from a mafiate. Either way I've got a really good feeling secretskull is one of the mafia.

secretskull 06-04-2008 05:36 AM

You know moogle, I have a feeling that the damage was from the poison ability, because pretty much everyone lost exactly 10 energy...

Also, moogle, of course you're saying I'm mafia, I'm the one attacking you! You managed to survive the night because everyone assumed the others were going to attack you, or that they couldn't beat you and your full defense.

You can't even play the Revenge Role card anymore, because bannana is dead, and it's plain that he used it. I'm not going to make the same mistake again, you die tonight mafiate.

Moogle0119 06-04-2008 08:49 AM

Hmm that makes sense even though I had put a bid on the poison thing so I at least wouldn't be affected by it. Let's face it though, most likely Doppler is going to die unless he somehow manages to successfully pick out the one who targeted him last night with that ability. After that the only people who have more than 50 energy would be me and you secretskull. It's no wonder you want me dead when my defense clearly either helped prevent a massive attack against me last night or nobody even bothered.

As Cati said earlier...(bolded for emphasis)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cati
: Aha, nevermind, I also misinterpreted Moogle's power. Let me look through it again. That's if Moogle's a townie -- if he's scum, then... let's see. Oh! Then he would have a defense of 91, and it would take 91 regular damage to get past it, 91 + 81... 172 regular damage to kill him. That's a MUCH more sane number, but can we do that? Actually, if we did focus a lot of attacks on him and it didn't touch him, that would show him as a townie. If it does, then it would mean he's scum. Hmm... Perhaps tomorrow if Moogle attackers announce how much they attacked Moogle for, we could figure this out.

So basically what I think you're suggesting is that I somehow managed (as a mafiate) to avoid all damage except from the poison last night even though I clearly made myself a target to everyone (town & mafia included). Because that's SOOO much more reasonable than the fact that I misread my power and told everyone the truth when I said I was going to defend for full....

Mafiate indeed, I think you've just shown your true colors secretskull.

secretskull 06-04-2008 10:27 AM

Tut tut moogle, you really have been misreading things.

Quote:

Totally Not Scum: If you have a town role, you take half damage from townie attacks. If you are not a town role, you register as a town role to detection abilities and may loudly proclaim your innocence in the thread, increasing your defense for that turn by 10.

In other words, assuming you are a townie, the protection would only come into play after we past your defense. Damage is only counted once we get past that. As the turns go by, that becomes ever more difficult. I assume that is your current plan. Convincing people to go after me while you and your buddy snipe away at us.

Quote:

Poison: If no one bids on this power, everyone gains this power. At the end of every turn, if you have this power you take 10 unblockable damage.

As you can see, if no one bids on poison, everyone gets it. I didn't bid on it, and I recieved it. Thus, you could not of bid on it without recieving it solely. In addition exactly 10 damage on most everyone only proves my point. Of course, we don't need to take my word on it. Let us ask the other townies. Anybody out there have poison?

In other words, you are lying to us Moogle. Hardly a townie thing to do.

Let us observe the facts, shall we? Firstly, had I focused my entire stock of attack against you, in addition to being a mafiate, I would not deal 10 (20) damage. Correct? That is one theory down the drain.

Also, I never claimed that you avoided all damage, I claimed no one attacked you because you convinced them it wasn't worth it.

In conclusion, you have shown us excellent examples of:

*Lying

*Faulty Logic

*Fake Accusations against the person most suspicious of you.

Gee Whiz, I wonder who would show evidence of these traits? A mafiate perhaps?

Rokrin 06-16-2008 09:44 AM

Alright, who didn't submit their actions? :p

Demetrius 06-16-2008 11:33 AM

My guess is several people... Doesn't really matter though, the mafia has this game fairly well wrapped.

Silly Kitty 06-16-2008 12:42 PM

IC will do something soon I'm sure. He has been a bit preoccupied as of late.

secretskull 06-16-2008 02:13 PM

I'm just waiting. I'm getting an ominous feeling though, as if moogle is going to survive another night...

Moogle0119 06-16-2008 03:20 PM

Har har, just do me a favor everyone if and when I die and I turn up townie just remember who pushed to convince everyone I was scum.

Silly Kitty 06-19-2008 04:28 PM

IC is a bit burnt out on Rumble right now. I don't think he is going to do anything with it. I'm going to drop out and then take over so we can finally finish this game. Is everyone okay with this?

Demetrius 06-19-2008 04:39 PM

I can finish it out as GM too if you'd like to keep playing.

Demetrius 07-01-2008 03:48 PM

Gack!! I completely forgot!

Its probably better if you take over, as work is gonna be crazy for me for the next couple weeks.

Silly Kitty 07-07-2008 08:47 PM

I know I said I would have it up Friday but I kept putting it off. Sorry!

1.) Moogle0119 61
2.) Rokrin DEAD
3.) secretskull 48
4.) Doppler12 DEAD
5.) Tophat 43
6.) Silly Kitty DEAD

I'm not one to do the stories so I will just tell the alignment of the dead.

Silly Kitty: Sarah, The Aggravated Tax Collector, Town Aligned
Doppler: The Fluorescent One, Town Aligned
Rokrin: James, the lying business man, town aligned

Okay, I hope I got everything right... If not, who really cares?

MAFIA WINS!

There is no way for Moogle to kill both of the mafia peeps.

Yay game over! Sorry it took so long!

And the alignment of those left...

Moogle: McTowny, the Town aligned player who really is Town aligned
Secretskull: Phil, Frat boy with a bomb, Mafia Aligned
Top Hat: Von, the Bulky Businessman, Mafia Aligned

Moogle0119 07-07-2008 11:09 PM

Told ya I roleclaimed truthfully, oh well I guess that was bound to happen once I misread the rules on my power and everyone thought I was scum. Good game mafia.

Truce 07-07-2008 11:23 PM

Actually, nobody ever attacked you.

Moogle0119 07-07-2008 11:27 PM

Yeah but nobody went after secretskull either. I knew that guy was definitely mafia with the way he was gunning for me. No big deal though this game basically died of entropy anyway before that but I'm glad we got it finished.

secretskull 07-08-2008 04:34 PM

I was planning on dying actually. I had Set Us Up the Bomb. I wanted everyone to gang up on me next turn, and then I would have blown you all up.

Demetrius 07-08-2008 04:55 PM

I can't believe the incredibly stupid way I died...

Tophat 07-08-2008 07:49 PM

Yay.

bananarama 07-09-2008 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demetrius (Post 805840)
I can't believe the incredibly stupid way I died...

Yeah sorry about that :( And to the rest of town sorry about my stupid gamble that screwed us over :(

Demetrius 07-09-2008 11:16 AM

Yeah, going after the most pro-town player was a real good call.


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