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Azisien 05-29-2008 09:33 PM

Sex And The City
 
Well I had an opportunity to go see it at an exclusive pre-screening (one of three OMG Ottawa's so special...cough bullshit).

I wasn't taken right away, though it turned out to be very well done. Despite the chicken sandwich that made me feel nauseous earlier I felt better as I left than with Indiana Jones. The movies are pretty incomparable, but still.

I'd give it a solid 4/5, fans of the series should be pleased.

And since there's no point not saying it, I was about one of eight guys in the theater full of about four hundred women.

Oh, and guess who the fuck was talking throughout the movie? The one guy within my quadrant sitting two seats to my right. I was hoping the women would tear him apart, considering the statistical chance about 15% of them were in their "special mode."

Solid Snake 05-30-2008 12:00 AM

I...

...I have to confess I thought that you were joking. Actually, scratch that. I still think you're joking.

There is no way any man could actually be forced to watch Sex and the City and seriously enjoy it. It's, like, expecting a terrorist to not only willingly waterboard himself but actually enjoy it.

Mirai Gen 05-30-2008 01:38 AM

I'm not trying to attack your masculinity or anything but I tried sitting through a few episodes with my then-girlfriend Kat while she watched Season 1. It was seriously like trying to be force-fed womanhood as seen through the eyes of a group of middle-aged bar slut stereotypes.

I suppose it's hilarious if you fit into any of those categories, but hey, I'm not going to take them up on the suggestion that I should buy this certain vibrator, because I'm currently vagina-less and I don't think it's going to change.

To conclude the hate rant - Was this any better than the series? Was it more, well, not aimed at women than the series?

Azisien 05-30-2008 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
There is no way any man could actually be forced to watch Sex and the City and seriously enjoy it. It's, like, expecting a terrorist to not only willingly waterboard himself but actually enjoy it.

Correction, I was offered the chance to go and went voluntarily. I wasn't forced to do anything. Although my watching of the show was very disjointed all told I've probably seen about two seasons!

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen
I'm not trying to attack your masculinity or anything but I tried sitting through a few episodes with my then-girlfriend Kat while she watched Season 1. It was seriously like trying to be force-fed womanhood as seen through the eyes of a group of middle-aged bar slut stereotypes.

After counting the number of guys in the theater, don't worry, I thoroughly prepared myself for some kind of masculinity beating, especially on the Internet. I can't say I particularly care.

However, as far as your critique of the series goes. I have a difficult time defending it because I've seen bits and pieces of all the seasons. I don't even know if I've seen episodes from Season 1. Probably have.

I suppose you can look at it as being force-fed womanhood, or you could look at it as getting an inside on some of their common perspectives. All the main characters are women so there will always be a women bias, but I find the show is often brilliant at analyzing relationship situations. But like pretty much every heterosexual man, I do roll my eyes with the fashion content/comments.

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen
To conclude the hate rant - Was this any better than the series? Was it more, well, not aimed at women than the series?

I'm going to have to say no. If you liked the series I think you'll like the movie, but I don't think this will "convert" you or anything. I could be wrong.

Based on the issues that came up in the movie, I think they did a great job of, while still centering around women, showing all the sides. Again there was more fashion stuff, which I can totally do without, but they even had some humour I think anybody would find funny.

Either way, if you didn't like or outright hated the series, absolutely don't go see the movie.

Odjn 05-30-2008 10:37 AM

The sad thing is none of these women are attractive enough to hear them bitch about men not wanting to commit or shoes or anything. Then again, this is probably intentional so women feel good that women on a level somewhat comparable to them rather than movie star good looks bitching about men.

Then again, guys have the same thing with women being crazy. But I think they're idiots too.

Edit: To make clear: I regard Sex in the City in the same manner I regard Animal House/Oktoberfest/any beers and tits movie, except for women. I.e. trash.

Regulus Tera 05-30-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen (Post 790260)
I'm not trying to attack your masculinity or anything but I tried sitting through a few episodes with my then-girlfriend Kat while she watched Season 1. It was seriously like trying to be force-fed womanhood as seen through the eyes of a group of middle-aged bar slut stereotypes.

I watched some episodes when the programme first appeared. I decided to laugh instead of cringe at all the stereotypes you mention. I wasn't taken in by the series but I rather enjoy what I watched. Not enough to go to the theatre and watch the movie though.

Mirai Gen 05-30-2008 01:20 PM

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I suppose you can look at it as being force-fed womanhood, or you could look at it as getting an inside on some of their common perspectives. All the main characters are women so there will always be a women bias, but I find the show is often brilliant at analyzing relationship situations. But like pretty much every heterosexual man, I do roll my eyes with the fashion content/comments.
Well it's one thing to be given an insight to womanhood and see how much different their lifestyle is from the male version. A better example of this would be Friends, with the episodes when they trade apartments, or the episode where they all get inspired by that "woman power" book.

It's quite another to be beaten ruthlessly over the head that THESE ARE WOMEN SEE HOW THEY DISCUSS FASHION AND VIBRATORS SEE NOT MEN MEN WOULDN'T DISCUSS THIS.

I'm not saying the show doesn't have it's own merits but I certainly can't watch it. It's like watching a decent show except you've got wet socks the whole time.

Azisien 05-30-2008 09:01 PM

It sounds like you're basing your opinion off the handful of episodes you've seen, Mirai, which isn't something you can change if you haven't seen more than two or three but it just means you're off base. Having seen about as many episodes of Friends as I have Sex and the City I'd have to disagree with you, I think all Friends has going for it is loveable characters (and I gotta say, I don't love all of Friends characters, the same I don't love all of Sex and the City's characters). As far as the "slut" stereotype goes, actually yes, I'd say Samantha is pretty slutty. Of course if you've had as much exposure to feminism as I have you begin to redefine (or erase) your use of the word slut, still. The characters are actually quite balanced, while Sam is a "slut" you could also label Charlotte a "square" and Carrie falls somewhere on neutral ground.

Off hand I can't think of one more than episode where vibrators were a topic of discussion, and even then probably briefly. Yes, the show is about sex, pretty much unavoidable there. But it's sex from a woman's point of view, which is rather refreshing considering the number of misconceptions guys tend to have about sex.

I haven't seen enough episodes of the first season to consider its actual story line though. I know from watching episodes in the second and fourth and sixth (huh...why no odd numbers...) season that they've got a pretty established story line and I'd say it balances stand alone content with story line progression about as well as BSG.

But anyway, I'll not convince any of you, and I'm not even sure if the movie's officially OUT yet. Either way whoever tagged the thread lame sucks and is a virgin. ;)

synkr0nized 05-31-2008 01:26 AM

If I didn't dislike the show, I'd be able to watch it and form a stronger opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen (Post 790415)
I'm not saying the show doesn't have it's own merits but I certainly can't watch it. It's like watching a decent show except you've got wet socks the whole time.

ha ha ha ha Excellent metaphor. Or would that be an analogy? Bah.

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Originally Posted by Azisien (Post 790591)
Either way whoever tagged the thread lame sucks and is a virgin. ;)

Oh, terrific! This actually works to my advantage. "Yes, I did save myself for you!"

In any case, since it was an opinionated tag (as amused as I was with it), I've amended it. I mean, seriously, her nose is like a black hole that sucks in your eyes.

Mirai Gen 05-31-2008 02:22 AM

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I haven't seen enough episodes of the first season to consider its actual story line though. I know from watching episodes in the second and fourth and sixth (huh...why no odd numbers...) season that they've got a pretty established story line and I'd say it balances stand alone content with story line progression about as well as BSG.
Then I suppose I could give it another chance. I don't see myself doing it but yeah, I'll pull back on the fireslinging a bit.

Honestly I kind of think it's like Friends, except replace all of the dating, adult friendship culture, and male/female differences with the miles and miles of things that women do that men don't.

I suppose that after you get tired of the hooks of the series you end up with having to do storylines, which worked for Friends (Well, okay, it worked occasionally for Friends) but I was so embarrassed and out-of-my-area and exhausted with the overwhelming flood of womanliness that I got from the first few episodes that I just couldn't imagine sitting down to enjoy the rest.

I will however give it another shot if given the chance.

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ha ha ha ha Excellent metaphor. Or would that be an analogy? Bah.
I thought of it the other day and this seemed like a perfect time to use it.


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