Things You Hate in Fiction III: Rise of the Vampire Sluts
 

So, I was about to say something but Tycho did it better.

Reminds me of Chia Black Dragon all over again.

For those who don't know, I refer you to Raiden's epic post.

I could almost see it working in the context of "Lycanthropes are more primal and therefore lycanthropes fuck like crazy because that's what animals do."

But then I see how she wants to fuck someone to get the ability to regenerate and she has like five lycanthrope traits to herself and I'm like okay, no that's a Mary Sue.

And thanks to POS, I'm using the term correctly!

Something I hate...Ahah! "Comedic Relief Characters." No, this isn't a Jar Jar Binks hate post. I mean, everyone knows how awful he is. If you're going to make the book funny in parts, please please please don't implement a character specifically designed to pioneer the jokes.

I hate it when a book or comic or game or movie goes on for its entire length and nothing is really accomplished.

WoT books are really bad about that, as are "middle child" sequels such as Pirates: Dead Man's Chest and Half-Life 2 Episode 2. Thats also why I tend to read comics in trade paper-back form. Yes, I know I really should buy the individual comics blah blah blah, but I cannot stand that to be continued shit.

It just irks me.

I was gonna say something about the Wheel of Time thing but you said it yourself.

Lookit me, ma! I'm a Fox News journalist now!

A helpful hint, never EVER read Ulysses.
I myself quite like books like that. I never really like plots. They usually feel overly constraining to me and don't allow characters and themes to be explored. Which is what I like.

So I guess I'm going to say : Books that are all about epic plots and epic quests to the detriment of the rest of the book. I'v eread too many books where the characters are dragged along by the plot rather than the otherway round which feels unnatural and unwieldy.

I view character exposition as something happening, so I am not saying "If they don't save the world then its bad." What I mean is this, they shouldn't spend 500 pages or whatever meandering around doing nothing. Give us some plot or characterization.

That's something I've never heard. Why should you buy monthly comics? As far as I can see those pamphlets are a scourge on comics that sustain in no small way their low status as an art form.

I like the new name.

I disagree because I don't like it when nothing really gets accomplished. At the end of the book I like knowing that something important has occurred through the book with the protagonist(s) as the catalyst. I suppose it's why I frequently write books that are about rebellions against something or other, because you know that a small band of do-gooders, in the end, made a difference. The same applies to adventure stories where a team of heroic Good Guys use their Scooby Do prowess to overcome the evil.

Like, in the '08 Dawn of the Dead, it started out with a bunch of people whom were still humans, and they all happened to be alive and took refuge in the mall. Then they find a car in the basement and a bunch of power tools and go, "Oh, shit yes, this is our escape!" Which is why the movie's climax was their escape and, in the end, you saw them escape and you knew they were going to be okay because they got free. That is unless you stayed through the credits in which case they all died, but you know what I mean.

Plot doesn't necessarily mean "At the beginning you know (hero) must overcome (obstacle)", it just means that along the way there is something he will do that shows his growth as a character and the reader knows that he got what he wanted.

Yeah I suppose that makes sense.
I quite enjoy the sense of hopeless futility with nothing being achieved or sometimes attempted. Thus I quite like Kafka. More emos shouuld read Kafka. I might start a club "Kafka for Emos".

A nice plot can be quite uplifting too.

As for the comics, as far as I know the comic distribution system relies upon the sales of the individual issues and if these don't sell the monthly issues don't get produced. Though I'm not entirely sure.

As for the name that was the suggestion of others, Teehee

Well the only thing that made me realize it was you was A - the avatar, and B - the use of "Barrel". I'm going to have a hard time not calling you BHS.

Oh yes, and epic too. When you have a villain that is unquestionably the antagonist and you repeatedly have them fight the protagonist but there's no actual resolution, then finally at the end the hero and villain finally have their epic encounter something about it just works.

See: Artemis and Drizzt, Dante and Vergil, and a DND campaign I ran once.