Hellboy vs. Wolverine
 

After seein Hellboy I just had this urge to make a vs. Hellboy thread. First I thought "Hmm Hellboys strong lets match him up with the Hulk.".Then I realized that the hulk would win (lets face it people Hulk is much stronger).So I thought why not put him against Wolverine I thought that would make a match.

Hellboy, because the comic is cooler (not that x-men is bad or anything, but I just prefer hellboy.)

Wolverine. Because Hellboy will wind up not winning.

I haven't seen any impressive "hellboy" powers... he seems pretty normal as erm.. hellboys go... stergth, yeah, maybe. But as you said, Hulk wins in stregth against hellboy, but you forget that wolverine's gone toe-to-toe with the hulk, and faired pretty well. Wolverine's gotta be at least an even match for such a normie, what with the healing factor, keen senses, and unbreakable bones + automatic knives from hands (claws) which means he can never be disarmed.

You know... I don't understand why people think Wolverine is so badass. He heals wounds quickly and has unbreakable bones. Oh, and he has a REALLY good sense of smell. Other than that he's just a good fighter.

Now, granted, Hellboy doesn't have such extreme powers either... but he does use guns... and he is ALSO a very skilled fighter, and he has supernatural strength.

Guns vrs Knives... Hellboy.

Both mostly equally trained... either way.

Really good sense of smell and healing factor vrs (sorta)super strength... About equal.

I'd say in a hand to hand Brawl wolverine would have the upper hand due to the claws, but just BARELY. Hellboy also has his hell hand thingie that could really make Wolverine's day suck, as well. However, if they were allowed to bring other things into the fight, Hellboy could/would shoot the hell out of wolverine.

...But really, someone explain to me why wolverine is seen as so 'badass' power wise. He heals quick and you can't break his bones. Rogue is nigh invincible, super powered, and can steal other mutants powers, storm controls the forces of weather, cyclops shoots shit out of his eyes, juggernaut is invincible and strong as hell, Jean can throw people around with her mind and is later inhabited by phoenix, cyclops can shoot streams of pure energy from his eyes, gambit can make things explode just by touching them. Any one of them has better powers than wolverine... wolverine is just, as I said, a rather good fighter.

Wolverine always has deus ex mechina on his side.

[QUOTE=Krylo]You know... I don't understand why people think Wolverine is so badass. He heals wounds quickly and has unbreakable bones.[/QUOTE]

Emphasis mine.

Seriously, just think about that. In a duel to the death, certain things are nessecery to win. The loser must either
1)lose an insane amount of blood via a deadly wound. Wolverine circumvents this usually, due to the healing facotr which scars all wounds almost instantly, preventing blood loss in most cases.
2)Be imobalized, followed by a killing blow. Broken leg, arm, or skull would do the trick, possibly. Again, wolverine circumvents this by the healign factor, but even that isn't nessecery, becuase you CAN'T break his bones. A displaced joint is affected benevonletly by the healing factor, unless death is instantanious, but it woud be REALLY hard to even get a displaced joint with a skeleton like his.

Other than that, wolverine is badass becuase he is the rough-and-tumble hero. He's as close to the anti-hero as you can get, without actually crossing the line.

With the guns, I might give it to hellboy, or anyone else who is a good shot for that matter, but consider this. As an X-man, and a secret weapon for the candian government *snerk- lol* hes quite well trained, and probably pretty fast. Avioding gun-fire, and in fact, bringing the battle to close range hand-to-hand combat, which is his advantage situation, is probably what he would be trained how to do.

I'll grant that if rougue were more agressive, she would be pretty cool. I mean, honestly, she ownz anyone technically. However, rougue has too many moral qualms about using her powers to really be a threat. Whereas wolverine might kill you without a second thought.

Actually, in a duel to the death, the loser usually just loses his/her balance for a second and gets a weapon smashed through them. Also, wolverine's healing factor wouldn't save him if someone KEPT ATTACKING. Say they smashed him in the face, stunning him for a second, and then instead of waiting a second while his face re-arranged itself in the proper order, they hit him in the stomach, then in the side of the knee, then in the stomach a few more times. Let's further say this person was a demon with a big ass hand and super human strength...

If a fight to the death is determined by bleeding out/breaking limbs followed by a killing blow that means both fighters are EXTREMELY well matched, and have been forced to go into a fight of opporutunity, attacking only when there is an opening and then immediately putting up their guard again. Usually someone is just pushed off their feet and then has the shit beaten out of them.

Also: if hellboy had guns, even if Wolverine closed the distance, one can safely assume hellboy is stronger than Saber Tooth... and Saber tooth can knock Wolverine like a rag-doll, although not badly enough to do damage. Hellboy could do the same, knocking wolverine back and then shooting him.

And, furthermore... Wolverine isn't THAT badass personality wise. He's a teddy bear inside. How often does he actually kill the people he's fighting as opposed to just scaring the hell out of them? Not very often... that doesn't make him an anti-hero. It makes him a wannabe anti-hero.

I agree with Martyr... Wolverine is only so badass because the writers make him badass. Looking at his powers he shouldn't be much better than your basic army ranger... a little better due to his healing factor and bones, but not a whole lot. Three rangers or so should be able to kick his ass... and I think we can all agree that Hellboy should be able to take out a few rangers.

P.S. Gambit would kick his ass.

The only problem, is that wolverine can continue fighting while he's healing. In addition to the healing factor, he's incredibly tolerant to pain. Tough as nails, says me.

I don't think the guns could play that much of a role in hellboy's victory. WHose to say that wolverine could not disarm him? Guns> Knives, true. But ability to be disarmed < immpossilbe to loose your weapons.

And yeah, wanna be anti-hero. I agree though I'd put it a different way. Thus is the very nature of being a hero on the edge. You do what's right, but begrudgingly if you can't deal out your own form of justice, i.e. beating the crap out of everyone in the building and then lighting it on fire.

I didn't mean pain to stun him. I mean knocking him flat on his ass and dragging through the ground. Sure, he'd be able to get up quick, but it'd end up, in an unarmed fight, being a SaberTooth vrs. Wolverine-esque thing. Wolverine doesn't kill even when the other X-Men aren't watching... he very rarely uses his claws for anything other than cutting up his opponents weapons, and therefore it's doubtful he'd use them on Hellboy's flesh.

Now, Hellboy might get disarmed, but he might not. The only people we ever see Wolverine successfully disarm are policemen, army troopers, etc. etc. But, even if he did, the fight would still be close and just barely leaning toward wolverine. If Hellboy got a couple bullets into him before hand, and then continued to attack before the bullet wounds fully healed, the guns could very well change the outcome of the entire fight.

And... to further the idea that wolverine is only as good as he is because the writers make him that way: Wolverine Vrs. Lobo.

Wolverine won. How? Lobo is as strong and tough as superman, doesn't need to breath, is a genius, is MORE than willing to kill, and heals faster than wolverine. There's no way in hell Wolverine could have realistically won that battle... which is probably why they had the whole thing happen off panel, so the readers weren't like "What the fuck? Lobo should have been able to take that!" or "Since when can Wolverine do that?"