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Remember those pics posted a bit ago when Miyamoto checked out the 360 Avatars? Well, the 360 is getting it's just desserts after Sony unveils their trophy system:

Joystiq - Trophy system explained
IGN - PS3 Trophies

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No beating around the bush � Sony's "Trophies" are Microsoft's "Achievements." Except that there's no Gamerscore point equivalent. Instead, PS3 owners get a revamped version of their user profile that displays how many Trophies they've earned, how many of which type � platinum, gold, silver, or bronze � they have, and what their current "level" is.

The first two games to support Trophies will be the Sony-published PixelJunk Eden (we saw the XMB screen, but not the game, unfortunately) and Super Stardust HD. The former will be the first PS3 title to feature trophies right out of the gate; the latter will add them via a downloadable update.

Here's the unfortunate news: you'll need to earn Trophies in games that are patched to include them even if you've already completely beaten the game. For example, if GTA IV received a trophy update, you'd need to play through it again � even if you achieved 100% completion � in order to earn its Trophies.

From the sound of things, though, there's not a lot of movement in terms of already-released titles receiving Trophy support. According to Sony, developers would need to go back in and add the "trigger values" that unlock a Trophy, something we could only expect larger developers to undertake on titles that already have Xbox 360 achievements.

Still, Sony is going to be offering Trophies in two more of its PSN titles for PS3, Pain and Warhawk, at an undisclosed date.

The really interesting aspects of trophies that we noted during our demo of firmware 2.40 are: a "level" system, which takes into account the number of Trophies you've earned and displays your progress via a percentage bar towards the next level; developers can customize the trophy achievement art to fit their games; and you earn a platinum trophy for unlocking every other Trophy in a game for ultimate bragging rights.

The new XMB (in-game and out) lets you quickly view your Trophies (the new icon is located under the Games section of the XMB) and compare your collection side-by-side against people on your PSN friends list. In this view, you can see when you and your friend earned the trophy. Plus, a quick description of what's required to earn a certain Trophy is always displayed below its name for easy reference.

We're glad to see Sony finally realizing the appeal of an achievement awards system. It's very similar to what Microsoft offers, but that's fine. It's actually the closest 2.40 comes to mimicking Xbox Live, plus elements such as the "gamer level" � and being able to see if someone is more of a "bronze gamer" than a "gold gamer," for example � is intriguing.

I havent got any yet. I dont actually know if any games support them as of now.

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Firmware 2.40 hit the PS3 late last night, which means that we're all sitting at our desks and playing Super Stardust HD, the only game with Trophy support thus far. Our take on the whole is that things are largely positive, but not perfect. Here's the IGN PlayStation Team's take on how things work so far (minus Jeff - he's apparently too "busy" to be earning Trophies right now).

Yeah, if you read the rest of that IGN article, it should detail the only other game that you can trophy-ify.

It's a good idea. Achievements were pretty much the final nail in the coffin for my console choice.

Hmm, maybe a grave wasn't the best analogy to use for something fun...

It's cool that the achievements have been implemented, but it will be a while before they are prolific enough to affect the average gamer.

One game that IS implementing trophies, and implementing them retroactively, is warhawk. News links here, and here.

The IGN article is wrong in that patch 1.4 will not have trophy support (that's for 1.5), but they are right when they say that trophies WILL be retroactive. As far as I can tell there's no official release date for update 1.5, but the rumors are that it will be this week (July 31st).

I barely play Warhawk, I should get on that actually. ALL OF YOU! GET IT! I dont like palying anonymously.

I could buy a discount copy right now, but I have rerervations about it.

At first, I thought it looked like a totally cool MMO flying game, then I saw some screens and assumed it was generic war game #18643

I can vouch for warhawk. it is pretty fun with more emphasis on blowing shit up and pouring rifle rounds into something then elite headshot skillz unlike most shooters. The balance between infantry tanks and aircraft is superb (the fact that taking down a tank with machine-gun fire is only moderately difficult is perhaps the ultimate testimony to this games balance) air combat is fun without being overbearing or difficult and the fighters can go into hover mode when they need to deal with ground based targets. The Dual missile launching air defences will one shot any plane stupid enough to ignore them and the other air defence thing well, that one pretty much sucks unless you get lucky ( It's still a deterrent, just don't expect to get the kill on anything). While I may not be the best at it it certainly was fun for me.

To rambley didn't read version: It's pretty fun.