Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen
 

So I just feel the need to get this off my chest.
I've heard rumors(and yes I know that Bay himself is the biggest rumor mill, spreading lies, and disinformation) that the Dinobots, and constructicons will be in the movie. I sorta hope they're NOT, since I think that humanoid robots turning into giant metallic dinosaurs is ultimately making a COMPLETE mockery of the whole "Robots in Disguise" thing... So I'd just like to say I think that they WILL in fact be reptillian-esque robots that turn into old hotrods, and pre-1950's era automobiles.
I just wanted to say it first so that when it happens I can look back and say "I told you so, suckers!"

The way I've heard it, the Dinobots & Constructicons were suggested (I think by Don Murphy), but at this point nobody knows if Bay went ahead with them. From what I've read, it sounds like Bay himself wasn't entirely thrilled by the Constructicons or Dinobots, but acknowledged their fan base.

However, I did hear that Bay was interested in using the Aircraft Carrier TF that was planned for the first movie.

Additionally, and I'm not sure if its just speculation, but some have suggested that the IDW character The Fallen might actually be in the movie. Of course, some have questioned how it could called revenge, but I guess it all depends on movieverse The Fallen's background.

SWB

I just wanted to say it if it DID happen, so that if it doesn't happen I can say "good" and if it DOES I can say "I told you so"

There's just not enough information to go off of. Michael Bay considering it could very well be "Oh, they have a huge fanbase?"

I'd like there to be more information but I'm just not able to believe anything yet.

I don't believe anything yet either.
But if it happens remember, you heard it hear first, and I told you so.

Pretty sure the Fallen has been confirmed to be in the movie.

As for the aircraft carrier rumor, I think that one may be true as well, because my brother, who works on an aircraft carrier, sent me an email just the other day saying the word is that they'll be shooting Transformers 2 footage on his very ship. So while still firmly in the "rumor" column, the corroborating stories, especially from the persons involved in the location itself, seem to me to point in a favorable direction.

Well he had better Goddamn be on fire, then.

I always wondered why he was always on fire. Was it ever revealed why? It was totally bizarre.

Does there need to be an explanation?

Hahahah!! Dorks.

Because if he's on fire, they can't catch him.

y'know... that... that makes sense.

You have any doubts with Bay around? I wouldn't put it past Bay to have put him in, even if the script didn't call for him.

I could see some people mentioning The Fallen to Bay when the title was being discussed, and Bay going OMG, we have to include him in the movie.

SWB

Good point. The entirety of that sales pitch must have been like "well, he's a robot who is always exploding."

I can tell you all right now that I know for a fact that the Dinobots are not in it (No Grimlock makes Kroze sad) and that another Prime will be in the movie (Pretty easy to guess who).

It seems as though they are setting up for Unicron in the third movie.

Not really, there's Sentinel and Roddimus Prime. Both of which I'm not sure if I'd want to see and really hate Optimus to be replaced by one.

Where are you getting your info from anyway?

Well if The Fallen is in it I'm gonna guess we're going to have Vector Prime. But really there are a ton of primes.

No you can't.
Unless you're Michael Bay you can pretty much GTFO

edit: I'm thinking tho that ultimately Bay is going to keep everything as G1-esque as possible... In other words, The Fallen will in fact be the Sweeps, Prime will continue to be Optimus, Megatron will become Galvatron, hopefully with Mr. Spock reprising the voice (Yeah, I know, fat chance, but hey...) and Starscream will be kicking ass and taking names, hopefully NOT to be disintegrated by a pissed off Galvatron, seeing as how Starscream = teh awesomez.

Starscream's just not the same without the whiney, screechy voice. I know the guy who did his voice died... but couldn't you get like... chris tucker or someone to do it?

Idea needs more work, but this would be a nice solution for the Dinobots-but-not-really.
That, or go Alternators-ish and have the Dinobots be represented with the closest vehicle equivalent.
Like... I dunno, Grimlock with a musclecar, Snarl is a construction/demolition truck, swoop is a small airplane. That kinda thing.

Just so long as we're talking workable movie, I can see Transformers: The Inevitable Sequel being about The Fallen and the current Autobots working to stop him from trying to commit genocide. Cue in a one, maybe two extra Autobots they didn't get in last time, maybe Decepticons who joined The Fallen's side that serve as lackeys. Hopefully Ramjet, he's always getting turned into a being of chaos.

Really if they go for the entire Dinobots or Constructicons or anything more than just a few new guys, it'd just be a big Transformers 1986 Movie all over again, with a non-stop feature-length Show As Many Toys As You Can.

I agree 100%... I loved that Bay made everything so workable. Which is why I'd like to see, if he really DID add the DB's into the mix, them representing the dinosaur age of automobiles, rather than be actual giant fucking metallic dinosaurs... He could even keep them stupid.. Not laughably so i.e. "Me Grimlock, King!" but keep them a little on the short-bus side of the intelligence spectrum and maybe make them really really tough.
But preferably I'd like to see them not at all.

If Bay has two fucking brain cells that'll cause some electricity between them he'll realize that doing Grimlock is the equivalent of putting Gambit into the X-Men movies. I am positive that if it wasn't called Transformers: All About Grimlock! then it would be a complete waste of Grimlock's awesome, shoving the 'Jar Jar Binks comedic relief' role on one of the coolest Transformers of all time.

And he's my favorite character, mind you.

heh... Jar Jar Binks... you TOTALLY called it...
Also Starscream kicks all other Transformers' asses when it comes to everything always..
It's a known fact.

What about all those times he died?

...Well, I'm certainly excited to see this movie about a robot who's always on fire. Because Michael Bay can't NOT make a movie about a robot who's constantly aflame.

HA! In your face, sucker... Starscream has, as of yet, never actually died... oh sure, his body has been obliterated any number of times, but his spark is indestructible. Which just proves my above point. Starscream is awesome, and anyone who says otherwise will of course die because they are dumb and nobody loves them.

Or I know someone who is currently working on the movie production... which I do.
And yet they still wouldn't give him a free t-shirt for Transformers 2 at Comic Con this year without waiting in line... even after pulling out his Paramount card and calling his boss to prove it.
Note: Comic Con booth helpers are idiots.

I get that you're funnin' and all but even for kidding around you're overdoing it a bit. Tone it down, yeah?

my bad.
tho I stand fairly strong in my beliefs that unless Michael Bay is standing on my foot telling me this that and the other thing, that It's pretty much all lies and chicanery.

Well nothing against you Kroze, but we seriously have nothing to go on other than "I know a guy." And since that's exactly the kind of line that Rogue uses in 8bit Theater, you can understand our skepticism.

Of course this means you get bragging rights in the form of "HAHAHAAHH I TOLD YOU SO" when the movie is out and you're right, but still, gullible is in the dictionary.

Comic Con is there for the people who go, not for employees. I'd say your friend was being a prick expecting a t-shirt without having the wade through that godforsaken line, just to get a lame TF shirt... (it just had Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen on it)

(Just a tad bitter, because I didn't have the patience to get one.)

As for people knowing nothing but what Bay tells us, that isn't true either. There's always occasional leaks from the set (usually with pictures), and some claim to have seen the leaked script (which Bay has claimed was false, but he said the same thing about the 1st movie, and people were pretty dead on back then).

I've been trying to avoid the spoilers, but I do know three things...

One, apparently there's a casting call for a midget in the movie & the midget who got the role is one who appears on the Howard Stern show, by the name of Beetlejuice.


Two, there's going to be an Ice Cream truck transformer. (There's even pictures.) However, I've heard that it won't stay that way & will eventually become a pair of twins, that will acquire new alt modes. That bit, I assume comes from the leaked script however.

Three, Arcee will be in this one. People speculate this because 3 copies of a custom cycle were made for this movie.

There's likely more spoiler information to be found on the Allspark forms, TV Movie section, but again I avoid that forum.

I'm sorry, but I'll be damned if I'm going to listen to any rumors spouted off by the friend of an acquaintance to the guy that washes dishes for the caterer for one of the grips on set. That's just not how I roll.

I wasn't referring to that, I was just making the general comment that there is at least some information out there. No real intent behind it, just something I said because it seemed to flow with what I'm saying.

Personally, I don't know if anything I've heard is true, and as I try to avoid hearing it, it makes it all the more likely that it isn't.

SWB