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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera
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So, if the dragon succeeds at this plan as all signs are pointing out, would it count as fridging?
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There are several ways in which that term can be used, many of which would probably apply. At least a couple of them depend on which of V / V's spouse are male or female.
The straight-up original definition from the Women in Refrigerators site is simply that any time a woman gets killed/depowered/raped/etc. in a comic book, it counts. No special circumstances, no measure of plot relevance, just woman character + dead/raped/depowered/other = Woman in Refrigerator. The banality of the trope is the entire point, because otherwise you inevitably get sucked into a silly-ass argument as to why in
this case see
this character totally
had to be murdered or
this character's rape was
completely different which ultimately ends up obscuring the fact that for whatever totally and unarguably great reason there is for doing it every single time, one way or another a whole lot of women end up getting killed/raped/depowered/etc. in comic books.
From there you can argue that this or that instance is a particularly awful or standout version of the trope - a lot of people take their working definition of the term from the naming incident of Kyle Rayner's girlfriend being actually chopped up and put in a damn fridge, to be something more in the line of
especially ghastly uses of murder/depowering/rape on women. Some people will further/alternately use it in the sense of the classic "Perpetrate horrible action X on female Y to give hero Z an excuse to go be a Heroic Badass." It's in this last area where you could hypothetically get into a gender-neutral definition as the "kill X to motivate Y" would presumably still be an annoying cliche even if it were some dude getting murdered to further some lady's Vengeful Crusade of Vengeance. We wouldn't
know because I don't think that's, like, actually happened anywhere in the entire history of fiction? But it could! (Well, there's probably a story or two where a woman's kids getting killed in similar fashion. That sounds like the sort of thing that like, Lifetime Movies would feed into the assembly line.)
EDIT: Incidentally as we've hit one of the periodic gaps between OOTS updates and given this thread's at 400+ now, I'm gonna go ahead and close and we can restart this once Burlew gets over his bout of not-doin'-nuthin'.
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No you want to talk about a comic that's slowed to a crawl, you gotta talk about Goblins. That one even updates sort of regularly now, but the pacing is absolutely terrible and there needs to be less "look at this awesome magical effect, here, I'll draw a panel for every second it goes on" and more getting on with it already.
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Goblins just got too godawfully horrifying for me to want to keep up with it regardless. That shit with the shield, I don't even fucking know.