SUDAN: Peacekeepers Avoid the Middle of Nowhere
 

"UN members that have been approached about sending peacekeepers to Sudan have responded that they are waiting for the United States to take the lead."

oh, you mean the UN isn't interested in going out on a limb and helping to stop massive killing? suprise suprise. wiat for the US to do something about it. ::rollseyes::

I feel that. I have a very strong love hate relationship with our country's military actions. Sometimes I see them as neo imperialist BS(iraq) and other times as legitiment attempts to help out (Balkans though my serbian friend would tell you otherwise, somalia, Haiti).

Europe and the UN are usually too timid to go on ther own thanks so many Peacekeepers getting attacked and captured in Serbia. And wait for us but then yell at us when we finally go.

We should have probably moved on Rwanda back in the day, too.. but theirs no money in it I guess. BUt when the allied powers freed the Jews after the Holocaust and made the pledge never again I assumed we all ment it.

Should the Sudan thing be stopped? Yes. Will it happen probably not. We've not cared forever why would we start now. Is there oil in Sudan? Or Other useful natural resources?

And to randomly end this post I will Quote Henry Rollins:

"Yea we just carjacked Iraq for its oil and military bases what the fuck are you going to do about? Huh Belgium? You want to say something? Germany? France? You got something to say? Didn't think so. Just sit in line and maybe we'll sell you some of our Iraqi oil."
-Henry Rollins (Playing the Asshole American Side of the Argument)

Was there money in the Balkans?
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Didn't think so. There goes your theory. I'm going to be honest that right now, if anyone still thinks that we went into Iraq for oil, that person is a certifiable moron. I don't care who I offend, you're a tinfoil hat-wearing, black helicopter-sighting idiot. I have respect neither for your cackamamie theories nor your media-fed "stance" on the issues.

"Neo-imperialist BS?" What are you taliking about? Do you think everything is a conspiracy? Have you ever thought that the U.S. does what it does to help people in need? What is with all this BS about the U.S. being in Iraq just for the oil? It doesn't make any sense. We did it because the U.N. isn't willing to risk lives like we are. We went to Iraq to finish what we started. And the media is so quick to blame Bush because he's Bush. Plus it (the media) blows everything out of proportion.

Really?! I thought we did to find Weapons of Mass Destruction! Why did the Bush administration say they would find WMDs if they didn't have sufficient evidence to say so. Oh right, we're supposed to completely forget about that because the administration wants us to.

We went into Iraq for a many reasons, oil being one of them. Anyone who says 'We're going in only to help people and nothing else!' is in denial.

Fine. Believe what you want to believe. But who knows what he did with those WMD's. That is still up to question.

The largest connection to oil that this war will have, will be the opening of the Iraqi oil fields to more widespread use (by Iraqis), that they might be used to fund the newly liberated country. No shit, this will be good for everyone, and I hope that that is the singular connection to oil that anyone here is drawing to this war. Tell me how that's wrong. The premise for this war, be it explicit or not, was as an extension of the war on terror. We have to eliminate governments that promote terror, or abet its growth in their countries--It's called self-preservation. Oh yeah, and the protection of western civilization.

one of my friends put it an intesting way. He compared Iraq to Dune. "The spice must flow". in Dune, no one cared who was actually in charge (except those grabbing for power), so long as the spice was flowing. Similar to Iraq. As long as the oil is flowing, its cool. we don't need to OWN it or TAKE it. just make sure its flowing.

of course, the analogy falls appart a bit, since Dune was the only planet where spice could come from. there are cheeper and easier places to get oil form besides Iraq.What Iraq offed was MORE then oil.


but. uh... howd we get in Iraq? this was about Sudan.

*feels bamboozled*

I personally don't think this war was mainly about oil. But it sure as hell is one of the incentives. I really don't think it was about liberating the Iraqis either.

But ANYWAY, going back to Sudan as Zeth is being bamboozled about. I can't understand the UN. They refuse to take any action until we take action? Geez, the US may be the superpower, but come on, this sounds like a whimpering Hero afraid of fire.

yeah, what was my fault... :o

Sorry, i get a little riled up whenever I hear something that to me is entriely absurd. Back on the topic (good idea, FunnyLooking), it makes no sense for the U.N. to wait. It seems like a role reversal from the actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.