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First Dragonball - The Movie review : Solid?

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Originally Posted by Aint it cool news

Ever since they announced the bargain-basement casting of James Marsters and Emmy Rossum, I've been getting a strong WING COMMANDER vibe from James Wong's DRAGONBALL. Turns out, it might be a little bit better than WING COMMANDER. Praise Jesus.

Hello to all of you,

I am a huge fan of your site and constantly visit here but this will be my first time emailing you about something. I love geek movies because there is nothing better than a well made geek movie. Well after watching the 95-100 minutes (excluding credits) of the movie i say this movie was solid. Ya you heard that right. I simply love the anime but I was very very nervous about it being made by fox. After all the studio has been making nothing but shit lately. Another reason why I was worried about this movie is that the director is James Wong who made final destination 1 & 3 and The one starring Jet Li. What I watched had unfinished sfx and with no scoring done yet. Also... they will be adding one or two scenes which will be shot sometime end of october.

Now let me list the positives of this movie

1) Action - I wasn't expecting the action scenes to be as awesome as they were. Simply put the best thing about this movie. The last action scene of Goku vs. Picollo are simply amazing and when picollo takes out his huge fucking ass sword with weird rectangle shape tablet attached it at the tip of sword and slamming it on goku was fucking awesome. Lot of blowing shit up, super cool flying scenes, awesome ki blasts. This fight scene was around 13-15 minutes long. There are other small action scenes that are fun and entertaining with slo mo but nowhere as good as the picollo vs. goku scene.

2) James Marsters as Picollo was awesome. He was perfect as picollo. Very mean and a villain that makes you say fuck ya kick all their asses. Oh and Picollo transforms into a light greenish color picollo towards the end of the movie.

3) Justin Chatwin as Goku. This guy surprised me a lot. I really didn't like him when they casted him as goku but he did a damn good job in the acting department and he nailed the KAMEHAMEHA line.

4) Oozaru - the giant monkey is in the movie. Goku turns into a 8-9 feet tall giant baboon when he looks at the moon. It was awesome looking though a bit CGI. Maybe they will fix it later.

5) Emmy Rossum as Bulma- She was really really good in this role. I liked how she never acted like a wimpy girl and eventhough she knows she can't win against the evil forces yet she kicks ass. A strong female role I will say.

6) Fullum Assasins - I thought adding these monsters were bad idea but they were pretty damn cool and there was an enitre scene where Goku and his friends fight these monsters and that fight scene was pretty damn good.

7) Joon Park as Yamcha was pretty cool. His acting was spot on like the character and they showed some cool fighting techniques of his. The fight scene between him and goku was good.

Negatives

1) Story - Dragonball fans will be dissapointed with some of the changes they have made with stories and characters etc. Krillin isn't in the movie, Tien isn't in the movie too. High school setting for the first 22-23 minutes was so not needed but ah well typical hollywood garbage of adding bullshit like that.

2) Jamie Chung as Chi Chi - Ya this was another casting i didn't like and my worst fears came true. Her acting is as bad as Jessica Alba's in F4 movies but thankfully her screentime isn't that big. I really wished they could have tried harded to find someone else. I hope for sequel she can improve if there is one of course.

3) Chow Yun Fat as Master Roshi - I was dissapointed with this. I wanted the fucking perverted roshi who fucking grabs breasts and asses like in the anime but alas all of that is fucking gone. Also he acted like Mr. Kesuke Miyagi. You know what I mean. The lines he spoke were fine but I felt he was uncomfortable in the movie. Very dissapointed.

4) Shenron the dragon - Ah another huge dissapointment. This is like sentinel in X3 all over again. FUCK FUCK FUCK you fox. So ya they get all the dragonballs and the dragon appears but the dragon is hiding behind fucking clouds and you only see his shadow. The voice of the dragon was provided by none other than Christopher Sabat who provided the voice for the dragon in the american version of the anime. When the dragon spoke it was chilling but damnit it was hiding behind clouds. One can hope they will fix this but chances of that are very slim.

5) Eriko Tamura as Mai was underused character and frankly speaking if that is what their intention was to underuse her then they might as well have not added this character and just added more picollo. Her moments were cool and she basically was there to show her nice boobies but ya she was kinda wasted.

Overall, I would give the movie a 6.5/10 simply because i was expecting disaster but it turned out better. The positives I mentioned coupled with some cool funny goku moments like eating a massive turkey etc. were hilarious. If only Master Roshi was perverted and Shenron was visible I would have given this 9 but ah well they messed up there. Hopefully they will fix shenron as they still have 5 months to movie's release but if not then well fuck you to fox and james wong. But in all seriousness I am glad it aint the disaster I thought it would be. Hopefully you guys will post this. Thank You.

Call me DON

Hard to believe that Chow Yun-Fat could be perceived as a "negative" in dreck like this. But, hey, light-greenish Picollo!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38877

So, like i've been saying all along, the only saving grace is the fact that they used the last fight in Matrix Revolutions between Neo and Smith, but made it twice as long!

Not sure if we can buy this review yet... but hey, light in the end of the tunnel??

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4) Oozaru - the giant monkey is in the movie. Goku turns into a 8-9 feet tall giant baboon when he looks at the moon. It was awesome looking though a bit CGI. Maybe they will fix it later.

Shit, now I'm interested in a "hey this might actually be decent" way and not a "LULZ WORST MOVIE EVER LULZ GONNA WATCH IT FOR THE KICKS" way.

It will suck and it will fail.

It will be characters with names taken from dragon ball finding magic balls. I assume the similarities will end there.

Goku + School = No.

Also I'd probably be a social outcast too if I turned into a giant destructive monkey every night.

It sounds like it has a surprising amount of similarities, just not enough of those similarities. I'll watch it, and this review makes it sound like it doesn't suck ass, and I am looking forward to seeing Goku go giant monkey. It won't be great, but it sounds like it will be not bad.

As long as 3/4 of the movie isn't them screaming/grunting/powering up like it was in the show I don't know how bad it could be.

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Originally Posted by Mannix (Post 856187)

As long as 3/4 of the movie isn't them screaming/grunting/powering up like it was in the show I don't know how bad it could be.

That's Dragonball Z you're talking about. The original Dragonball series was actually really good (though I only really watched it when I was a kid) and the movie is supposed to be based on that series.

I'm kinda looking forward to seeing this... when I rent it. It simply doesn't sound like it warrants a theatre viewing.

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 856190)

That's Dragonball Z you're talking about.

And only the anime. And the screams/grunts are a lot more conservative in the original Japanese. And In the really drawn out screams, it was mostly relegated to the background, with the music playing over top of it.

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Call me DON

What the hell? I did not approve this message!

Where's my lawyer?!

I'll probably still watch it for ass-kickery goodness. That is, if there actually is goodness.

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3) Chow Yun Fat as Master Roshi - I was dissapointed with this. I wanted the fucking perverted roshi who fucking grabs breasts and asses like in the anime but alas all of that is fucking gone. Also he acted like Mr. Kesuke Miyagi. You know what I mean. The lines he spoke were fine but I felt he was uncomfortable in the movie. Very dissapointed.

Yeah, America sucks in grasping the fact that old men are perverts. Or maybe they didn't want to offend anyone, but why the hell not? Controversy creates more viewers, and in this case if a lawsuit comes up you could just say you were sticking to source material.

it's been a few years, going from memory

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Originally Posted by Mannix (Post 856187)

As long as 3/4 of the movie isn't them screaming/grunting/powering up like it was in the show I don't know how bad it could be.

"There was a lot of grunting and noise-making and stuff, because at Funimation if a mouth was open a sound had to be made. *eye-roll*" - Christopher Sabat

Maybe not an exact quote, but that's basically what he said. It was at least a small nod to anime fans that at least the VAs know it's retarded.

His bit about how fun it would be to talk like Vegeta in daily life and scare people into giving him things was pretty funny, too. "I'd love to pull into a gas station and just grunt out, <Vegeta voice>'I WANT FREE GAS!'</Vegeta voice>. Man.."

I will grant that given that the source material involves a little boy who with a tail who rides around on a cloud with a magical extending pole collecting balls and defeating entire armies, who then grows up into a girly-voiced grunting father of a whiney little wimp who fights super villain aliens and dies/comes back to life multiple times.

So making a real movie transition would be quite difficult. Still. If the first 30 minutes are goku as a lonely friendless high school student, I have trouble seeing how they will convince me in the remaining hour or hour and a half that he is actually an alien monkey fighting an even more evil alien (who is no longer green, and lack antennas) in order to secure a pile of balls.

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Originally Posted by Lord Setheris (Post 856263)

So making a real movie transition would be quite difficult. Still. If the first 30 minutes are goku as a lonely friendless high school student, I have trouble seeing how they will convince me in the remaining hour or hour and a half that he is actually an alien monkey fighting an even more evil alien (who is no longer green, and lack antennas) in order to secure a pile of balls.

But isn't it every lonely friendless high school student's dream that they will one day turn out to be some kind of super alien who can smash up badguys? Its a marketer's wet dream.

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 856326)

But isn't it every lonely friendless high school student's dream that they will one day turn out to be some kind of super alien who can smash up badguys? Its a marketer's wet dream.

Nope.

It's EVERYONE'S wet dream.

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 856326)

But isn't it every lonely friendless high school student's dream that they will one day turn out to be some kind of super alien who can smash up badguys? Its a marketer's wet dream.

Ok. You got me there.

And in the shame of defeat, I sentence myself to watch this movie with a straight face.

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 856326)

But isn't it every lonely friendless high school student's dream that they will one day turn out to be some kind of super alien who can smash up badguys? Its a marketer's wet dream.

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Originally Posted by The Wizard Who Did It (Post 856346)

Nope.

It's EVERYONE'S wet dream.

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Originally Posted by Lord Setheris (Post 856398)

Ok. You got me there.

You guys had the fucking weirdest dreams in High School.

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera (Post 856435)

You guys had the fucking weirdest dreams in High School.

I dunno man, its STILL my dream. And I've got friends and a hot girl and a good career and everything.

At least we ain't Otakukin. <_<;

There only hope is to turn the move into a comedy by making it 2 hours of old guys powering up into super-muscle forms and casting kamehamehas at rich people's mansions and having little boys kick people between the legs to determine their gender.

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Originally Posted by Lord Setheris (Post 856500)

What?

I dunno about the movie, but Synk's post makes me want to see Sabat do a stand up routine or something.

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Originally Posted by Lord Setheris (Post 856500)

Since Picollo isn't even green anymore I think anything is possible.

And why the heck don't John Woo and Chow Yun Fat make Hard Boiled 2?!! And not some stupid Stranglehold video game quasi-sequel, either.

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera (Post 856435)

You guys had the fucking weirdest dreams in High School.

Nah. The only reason you didn't have those dreams is because you're an alien.

... I fucking hate you right now.

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 856614)

What?

In Dragonball, Goku would give people a gentle kick between the legs to figure out if they were a boy or a girl. He did this to Chichi after meeting her too.

Also when Master Roshi powers up to show off the Kamehameha (which he wants to use to put out a fire on the Ox King's mansion's mountain) he goes into a hilariously bulked up and muscle-filled form that makes me laugh every time.

Here is the first pic of what the Oozaru looks like in the film; be prepared to die a little inside...

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...kumonster1.jpg

Kill it! Kill it with fire! That's just, that's just... no.

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Originally Posted by Lord Setheris

In Dragonball, Goku would give people a gentle kick between the legs to figure out if they were a boy or a girl. He did this to Chichi after meeting her too.

I loved this because it also came across to me as a subtle joke about manga characters all being essentially the same regardless of gender (the difference is the boobs, as Goku later figures out).

It truly does DBZ better than DBZ.

Oh, and here's an example of what this thread topic makes me think of every time.

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera (Post 859520)

Here is the first pic of what the Oozaru looks like in the film; be prepared to die a little inside...

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...kumonster1.jpg

N-No.... no it's not... shut up... Shut up shut up shutup Shutup Shtup Shmup Shmtup!!!

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Originally Posted by synkr0nized (Post 859525)

Oh, and here's an example of what this thread topic makes me think of every time.

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For the record, Dragon Ball > Dragon Ball Z

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera (Post 859520)

Here is the first pic of what the Oozaru looks like in the film; be prepared to die a little inside...

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...kumonster1.jpg

I think I watched an episode of Star Trek where Kirk had to fight that thing.

Are we sure that's not just like a transformation shot as in he quickly transforms into monkey man going through wierd forms like that which only appear for a fraction of a second.....
One can hope....

My bigness is perfection.

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera (Post 859528)

For the record, Dragon Ball > Dragon Ball Z

That's indeed the popular and arguably easily-supported notion. I find DB to be really boring at times, but hey. That wasn't the point. The point is that Buttlord GT is waaaaay better. Solid.

My god, it's a Star Wars alien. How do they expect us to take this seriously? It looks like the ultimate B-movie out of China.

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Originally Posted by The Wizard Who Did It (Post 856346)

Nope.

It's EVERYONE'S wet dream.

Speak for yourself; mine involved the entire female cast of X-Men and Avengers.

Oh, fuck. I am not watching this now.

You couldn't even pay me to do it.

Seriously, monkey not ~~TRUKK~~ alien.

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Originally Posted by Dante Must Die (Post 859653)

It looks like the ultimate B-movie out of China.

I firmly believe that's what they're actively going for.

Does that mean the guy playing Goku is China's Bruce Campbell?

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera (Post 859520)

Here is the first pic of what the Oozaru looks like in the film; be prepared to die a little inside...

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...kumonster1.jpg

thats actually a shooped picture of the midseason boss from a show called zaido.

you all just got trolled.

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Originally Posted by Mad Jack the Pirate (Post 859912)

thats actually a shooped picture of the midseason boss from a show called zaido.

you all just got trolled.

You know, i'm raiding the web right now looking for said monster, all i found were sandals so far...

http://www.bantex.com.ph/images/prod...%20DISPLAY.jpg

If this is true i'll get Tera's head for killing us a bit inside, you can join but you have to bring your own knife! :D

tera was probably duped too, as this whole shitstorm only came about because someone sent the pic anonymously to the DB movie blog, and the people there ran with it. they proabably picked that monster because Zaido is a hilariously obscure toku from the phillippines.

it really -IS- obscure... i cant find a single snap of the sucker, and im damn good at online searching anything

I know Tera didnt do on purpose, but c'mon... he is our own forum Otaku news guys. When he say Capcom is going to release a new Wrestling Game were you can mud wrestle as any women from previous Capcom games, first you belive... then you go "WTF".

Sorry about the Double post guys, i just brought some new stills and news

Pre Red martial gear Goku with staff!

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/im...16201_640w.jpg

Bulma and Goku

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/im...12998_640w.jpg

And im not sure, but i think this is actually Chi Chi

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/im...43956_640w.jpg

Also, They kept the Tongue-in-cheek part of Goku eating a lot all the time

http://dbthemovie.com/wp-content/upl...bikeeating.jpg

And this is Pre-green Piccolo

http://dbthemovie.com/wp-content/upl...11/piccolo.jpg

From the recent (nov10) IGn rundown of the Movie, it seems that The movie goes about the Death of Goku's grandfather Gohan (Played by the Key Maker of the Matrix Movies Randall Duk) and may even finish on the World Martial Arts Tournament for the Final fight.

Even though we're all expecting a B- Class Ha-Ha movie, the production has people from all over the Charts, including a working group for effects that spawn among Spiderman, 200, Watchem crew all around.

So, since a movie like this is pretty much done in Post Editing, none of the "Leaked" stills have real meaning quite yet... but overall, there is a Glimpse of possibility that this movie actually goes out to be good, and if that happen we KNOW that it just might warrant a sequel, and By Good... crappy or no Crappy, people are going to watch that.

Also....
http://ladal.chez-alice.fr/site/images/krilin.jpg
No Krilin on DB movie? C'mon...

I know, I am sad of no Krillen. Piccolo looks less dumb in that pic.

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Originally Posted by Bellsouth Minion (Post 859923)

Don't try to cover me up; I failed at this. ='(

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Originally Posted by Bellsouth Minion (Post 861130)

Also, They kept the Tongue-in-cheek part of Goku eating a lot all the time

Out of all the cool mecha designs Toriyama drew for the series they went with this?

Augh.

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Originally Posted by Bellsouth Minion (Post 861130)

And this is Pre-green Piccolo

There was no "pre-green" Piccolo. Never. Fucking FOX.

I love how Kotaku is still thinking that picture is real, when we've known it's not for a week now. Fuck Kotaku, come here for all your cool news!

You know... it's strange... but IGN is reporting it as real too....

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Originally Posted by Bellsouth Minion (Post 861469)

You know... it's strange... but IGN is reporting it as real too....

But it's IGN, so you know it's full of fail.

IGN is probably getting it from Kotaku, if my guess is correct.

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera (Post 863324)

Trailer is out: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/182798...movie_trailer/

http://i35.tinypic.com/bfkets.jpg

Y'know, I'm kinda surprised that it looks like just about every other movie trailer. Don't ask why!

I'd like to think that I have a pretty complete of the Dragonball universe (mange mostly), but I have to ask: who the fuck is Mai?

Did they change Chi-Chi's name? They changed it, didn't they. Goddamm you, Fox, that name was the best fucking part about her!

I've got a bad feeling about this. I didn't get a Dragonball vibe from this trailer at all. And I'm optimistic about everything.

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Originally Posted by Masked Jedi (Post 863353)

I'd like to think that I have a pretty complete of the Dragonball universe (mange mostly), but I have to ask: who the fuck is Mai?

http://www.uruloki.org/felipeblog/im..._tamuramai.jpg
Pilaf's honcho.

I've always been relatively optimistic about the Dragonball movie, but that trailer really didn't do anything for me. It didn't feel like Dragonball, it didn't really feel like anything. :/

Most of the movie is going to hinge on how Goku and Piccolo are portrayed, for me. So far, appearances are not helping. Goku doesn't look like a wild child, and Piccolo... well, I'm indifferent to his appearance; I can live with it, but it's not doing anything for me. Goku does at least look to be about the right age for this arc (not that he looked like his actual age in the manga anyway).

Anyway, if that was Goku saying "I'm not ready for this," then they've gotten him completely wrong, and I hate them for it. For one thing; it's just not in his character to say something like that. At all. For another; Goku spent the first chunk of the Piccolo Daimyo arc pretty much in a blind rage.

We're talking about a guy who didn't hesitate to down a glass of pure poison based on the infinitesimal chance that it might not. "I'm not ready for this," is not in his vocabulary.

the thing were they showed a still of the character with their names on the side was kinda like "since you wont have a fucking clue of who those are without us saying...."

Either way, there was no hint of a Kamehame-Ha in this trailer, and that is pretty much the last mistake you can make when making a DRAGONBALL MOVIE...

Wow. And to think, I didn't believe a worse film than Matrix Revolutions or the second Mortal Kombat could be made.

...And then Fox inhaled the biggest throbbing phallus they could find in order to spit out this epic load of craptastic failure. It makes me cringe to think of what they're going to do with Cowboy Bebop. Let me guess... Ein is going to be the crew's faithful computer-hacking Poodle....

Looks like they're just going to do with the movies what they do with translating or licensing anime. Goody.

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Originally Posted by Aint it cool news

Picollo picollo picollo Picollo picollo Picollo picollo Picollo!

Sweet Allah could no one tell him it's spelled Piccolo, like the flute. :gonk:

This film is going to suck horrendously. They are basically shitting all over the source material.

This is how the movie should go:

1. Focus on Goku as an uneducated and innocent minded child training with Master Roshi
2. Enter Piccolo (WHO WILL BE GREEN) to collect the dragon balls to enslave humanity
3. Enter Krillin who comes to train under master roshi as well after Piccolo enacts non-specific evil on Krillin's life and/or family.
4. Focus on Roshi attempt to teach the two boys his techniques, including the kamehameha wave which they never master.
5. Enter Bulma who arrives to hide her dragon ball with Roshi so it will be safe in exchange for seeing her boobies.
6. Enter piccolo attack on Kame House, because he has a dragon ball.
7. Roshi killed in combat by piccolo, and Krillin defeated soon after.
8. Goku chases piccolo, finds his lair, and has a large fight, starts to lose, then finishes him with a kamehameha.
9. Summon dragon to revive Roshi, who once revived tries to grope Bulma.
10. Everybody ends laughing to the deep voiced guy saying the day was saved and the world will never truly be safe yadda yadda yadda

This is how the ACTUAL movie seems to be going so far:
1. Goku is at school
2. More goku is at school
3. Non-green piccolo causes mayhem
4. Goku trains with non-eccentric non-pervert Roshi
5. Kiss with Chichi
6. ???
7. Profit