Puh, like lazy matters. He just complains a lot because the RPs move fast and he is ignored every now and then.

Edit - If lazy comes back and reads this and gets offended, I shall just laugh at him for being a pussy.

Good to see your sticking up for your fellow werewolf IHMN...

No fair, all the fresh meat is in Mage...

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the INCREDIBLY abusive trick of dhampir mages...

Just noticed that werewolves and vampires, the two main groups, are not only the least filled, but have no people who know of WoD as most of the mages and some of the demons seem to know (Besides Dante).

Seriously, it's like Mage was some sort of magnet, sucking in the new people... But Demon has Psycho. But you get stuck with the vet Dante, har har. You can only mock him so much because you know he knows how to RP...

In fact, is everyone in Mage a newbie? Yeah, that will be interesting.

EDIT: Yeah, the irony isn't lost on me IHMN... There may need to be some story shifting to compensate for this fact...

Heh, all mage people are newbies to this forum, but seem to know of WoD (Ironic, because 75% of them will probably just disappear/leave).

Edit - Werewolves in their strong wolf form thingy can take a demon in their war form right (Melee wise)?

Dante that trick is pretty much just an excuse to powergame. No sane GM would allow it anyway.

I haven't said anything about abominations either and they're fairly abusive....

How does the experience break down...

Me: GM, and has all the books, although I haven't read them throughly yet. Might go Fallen, but might go with someone else.

Dante: Seems to know all the systems as well, better then I do. Vampire.

Reality: Knows Mage, although hasn't demonstrated knowledge of other books yet, but has alluded that she knows. Mage.

Mage 27: Knows a lot, seems to know as much as Dante, at least about Werewolf and Mage and possibly Vampire, although has been mum on the Demon Rulebook. Mage.

So I'll either go Werewolf or Fallen to provide someone with advanced knowledge to one of those sides, although by preference of character type I might go Fallen.

Demon was the one game I never bothered to learn. It came out like 10 seconds before they anounced they were ending the universe and by that time the world was getting a bit croweded with supernaturals anyway.

I actually know vampire better than either of the others. It's the only one I have books for. The other universes I've just played and read books belonging to friends.

Hardly as abusive. Abominations go Harano very easily, then they can't regain Willpower, they can only access those Gifts they used to have, most of their fetishes won't work, except the Wyrm-tainted ones... I think even Black Spiral Dancers look down on Abominations.

Whereas dhampir Mages sufer no Avatar loss unlike ghouled Mages, and they can learn Discipline like any other Revenant, and though that knowledge may not be as extensive as Vamps, it is still a very formidable edge, because it offsets Mage frailty.

And since you're good with Vampire, PLEASE keep them from making True Brujah Methuselahs in black coats...